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[Private Tag Reporter]

What do people think about ecchi games? Don't they care? Or permanent black stain on their profile?

Honestly western culture is too autistic for me to get a good read on things. On the left you have insane levels of cancel culture, faggotry/troonery and hyperbolic drama. On the right there is an increasing anti-pornographic sentiment, seemingly reactionary from the porn -> coomer -> tranny pipeline. That being said, men will always be men in the end and there will always be an audience for that kind of game. Attractive, normal looking women are underrepresented in the gaming landscape right now.

I personally think it's fine as long as you're not appealing to fag flags or children (so much 'ecchi' is cover for grooming a la Roblox), but the downside I think is the shitty reality that anything sexual is probably going to attract a seedy audience. Itch.io seems to have very lax restrictions on adult content, IIRC you don't even need an account to view that material, so it seems like an easy way to get into concerns about liability. Eastern Euros and the Japs seem to not give a shit as far as I can tell, you can throw a stone at most major video game companies in Japan (Capcom in particular) and find the artist has drawn doujinshi.

I don't know what happened to the Newgrounds days when sex and violence was edgy and transgressive/cool instead of just being 'safe-horny' and trans

NerdShamer is probably right, if I were going to post an ecchi game, I'd 100% run it from an alt. Just like posting to the Farms I guess.

 

[Judge Dredd]

What do people think about ecchi games? Don't they care? Or permanent black stain on their profile?

I'm not pro, but in my experience nobody cares. eg. One of the guys who worked at Rare during the golden age draws furry porn now. A guy I know is a freelance artist on AAA games, and he draws furry porn for money between contracts, again no one cares. I don't know if he does so on an alt.

 

[Coolio55]

One of the guys who worked at Rare during the golden age draws furry porn now.

Lol! Who?
I mean, I can't say that I'm surprised in the slightest. It's just that Rare's sexual humour wasn't very "furry". It was always very steeped in the UK style of putting innuendo into everything.
There weren't any obvious one handed characters in Banjo. Even the infamous Krystal seemed pretty innocent in her Dinosaur Planet phase. (Although that Dinosaur Planet concept art is definately making my "furry" geiger counter go off.)
I'm not sure if she was redesigned in Japan for the Gamecube version but that N64 model is refreshingly non-suspect.
There was one singular horny character in Conker and that was it.

...except maybe Candy. ...but that was surely in jest?
Please?

 

[Mooger Meng]

Eastern Euros and the Japs seem to not give a shit as far as I can tell, you can throw a stone at most major video game companies in Japan (Capcom in particular) and find the artist has drawn doujinshi.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my limited understanding that's due to their cultures being more willing to compartmentalize behavior. That is to say, so long as you're not doing that stuff "on company time" and/or have stopped doing it altogether, it will be quietly ignored by the decision-makers (and potentially the target audience). Apparently it's not unheard of for, say, Jap porn actresses to get work doing clean voice-over work or even going on to become small-time TV hosts with the implicit agreement that they won't go back to doing porn. Or well-known artists having prior histories of making some really skeezy doujins.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Lol! Who?
I mean, I can't say that I'm surprised in the slightest. It's just that Rare's sexual humour wasn't very "furry". It was always very steeped in the UK style of putting innuendo into everything.
There weren't any obvious one handed characters in Banjo. Even the infamous Krystal seemed pretty innocent in her Dinosaur Planet phase. (Although that Dinosaur Planet concept art is definately making my "furry" geiger counter go off.)
I'm not sure if she was redesigned in Japan for the Gamecube version but that N64 model is refreshingly non-suspect.
There was one singular horny character in Conker and that was it.

...except maybe Candy. ...but that was surely in jest?
Please?

Don't worry. As @Private Tag Reporter said, this kind of thing is somewhat common in Japanese studios and might possibly be in western studios, though they're more subtle about it. It's not really a new thing either. Supposedly various comic legends made money making Tijuana bibles. The difference is, unlike troons and other modern hacks, most creatives know how and when to dial it back.

As for the guy. "Phillip M Jackson". aka. Collected Curios, aka Jolly Jack. If you compare the artwork on the cancelled Jet Force Jemini comic to his current work (on Twitter, Deviant Art, and Fur Affinity), you can see a similar art style. I want to say he also does political cartoons as well, but I don't know.

I'm not sure what games he worked on. I'm guessing Banjo Kazooie given it's in the background in that interview.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from my limited understanding that's due to their cultures being more willing to compartmentalize behavior.

I'm not sure it's really a culture thing. I know I'm repeating myself a bit, but this appears to have been somewhat common, with people willing to compartmentalize in the west. In Hollywood, and actress wouldn't be out of the business because she did a topless scene in a movie. It's only the last 10-15 years where this idea of cancelling people became common. And let's be honest, nine times out of ten, it's not the porn they object to. It's some political opinion and the porn is used as justification to fire them.

 

[NerdShamer]

and might possibly be in western studios, though they're more subtle about it. It's not really a new thing either.

It's certainly an thing, but it's mostly the people from 4kids dubbing "anime" than anything else.

But this shit is around 20 years old.

 

[ZMOT]

Or well-known artists having prior histories of making some really skeezy doujins.

doesn't need to be one or the other. mizuryu kei was allegedly hired by cover of all people (till he sperged out and the deal fell throught), or right now lot of people are raging the next chapter of guilty is only coming out in 2025, apparently because seto yuuki is busy with non-h work (believable since the dude can draw but his output is way to sparse to be sustainable - the last chapter came out over a year ago!).

 

[Whatevermancer]

Working on something that I've wanted to implement since I was toying with Flash: 2d shadows.

 

[Whatevermancer]

Implemented bloom. Compare and contrast:

 

[779777]

The duality of the Godot developer: "God I love this engine" / "Holy fuck this engine is such a piece of fucking shit"

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Honestly western culture is too autistic for me to get a good read on things. On the left you have insane levels of cancel culture, faggotry/troonery and hyperbolic drama. On the right there is an increasing anti-pornographic sentiment, seemingly reactionary from the porn -> coomer -> tranny pipeline. That being said, men will always be men in the end and there will always be an audience for that kind of game. Attractive, normal looking women are underrepresented in the gaming landscape right now.

I personally think it's fine as long as you're not appealing to fag flags or children (so much 'ecchi' is cover for grooming a la Roblox), but the downside I think is the shitty reality that anything sexual is probably going to attract a seedy audience. Itch.io seems to have very lax restrictions on adult content, IIRC you don't even need an account to view that material, so it seems like an easy way to get into concerns about liability. Eastern Euros and the Japs seem to not give a shit as far as I can tell, you can throw a stone at most major video game companies in Japan (Capcom in particular) and find the artist has drawn doujinshi.

I don't know what happened to the Newgrounds days when sex and violence was edgy and transgressive/cool instead of just being 'safe-horny' and trans

NerdShamer is probably right, if I were going to post an ecchi game, I'd 100% run it from an alt. Just like posting to the Farms I guess.

It would be like anything else, if you want your real name to be associated with a series of great novels, don't use it for fetish smut.

The most important thing is that you will probably be found out and you just have to own up to it, and don't do it. A pastor or politician that was a coke fiend and sex addict twenty years ago is going to be forgiven or forgotten, somehow who does that regularly on the down-low, probably not.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Running into an issue with Godot, and 3D level design in general. In short, there doesn't seem to be any tools to do the job properly. If it's beyond simple tiles or dropping multiple models into a scene, it becomes unwieldy. I'm thinking of trying Func_Godot. My other option is making a bunch of small, self contained rooms.

 

[Private Tag Reporter]

Running into an issue with Godot, and 3D level design in general. In short, there doesn't seem to be any tools to do the job properly. If it's beyond simple tiles or dropping multiple models into a scene, it becomes unwieldy. I'm thinking of trying Func_Godot. My other option is making a bunch of small, self contained rooms.

Have you tried greyboxing with Godot's CSG features? CSG lets you basically compose 3D primitives together to make a world-space. Unfortunately, at least last I checked. Godot's built-in CSG was buggy as all get out. I tried looking for alternative tools, and "Level Buddy" came up. There's also Qodot, which lets you import Quake maps.

I was never really into 3D map editing, so I'm not sure which of these is the best or has the best features. Unfortunately, as with a lot of things game development, if the engine doesn't have features you may just end up having to roll your own. Shit like this is why I usually don't get past the proof of concept stage.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I tried looking for alternative tools, and "Level Buddy" came up. There's also Qodot, which lets you import Quake maps.

Qodot and Func_Godot are the same I think.

Not heard of Level Buddy. Someone earlier in the thread mentioned Cyclops Level Builder, which I forgot about it. Will look into all these options. See how they fare.

 

[Male Idiot]

What do people think about ecchi games? Don't they care? Or permanent black stain on their profile?

Overall thanks for the advice guys. Really good! A lot to think about!

Eastern Europeans don't give a shit about anything.

Is your game good and working? Ok. You did Furry Cum Catcher 69 before that? Just don't shove it in my face.

With the west it is permanent black stain for either sides.
Conservatives mostly hate anime and sex.
Progressives hate non gay anime and straight sex, but ecchi is mostly big boobs girls so it is big no no.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

What the hell is the point of even sharing what you're working on when you just get permabanned by petty keyboard tyrants despite not making anything remotely NSFW nor breaking any actual rules? Its just nothing but demoralizing bullshit.

 

[NerdShamer]

What the hell is the point of even sharing what you're working on when you just get permabanned by petty keyboard tyrants despite not making anything remotely NSFW nor breaking any actual rules? Its just nothing but demoralizing bullshit.

So, is it over modern politics or just discordniggers?

 

[779777]

Running into an issue with Godot, and 3D level design in general. In short, there doesn't seem to be any tools to do the job properly. If it's beyond simple tiles or dropping multiple models into a scene, it becomes unwieldy. I'm thinking of trying Func_Godot. My other option is making a bunch of small, self contained rooms.

What I do in Godot is design my levels inside blender more or less and then I wrote blender python scripts (they can be automated from the command line outside blender) to export them to gltf, then on the Godot side you can run code when importing assets, in there I wrote any code I need for my scenes to function in Godot. Blender is a far superior editor for almost everything in 3d compared to Godot so I try to use it when I can get away with it.

 

[Spirit of Fire]

Running into an issue with Godot, and 3D level design in general. In short, there doesn't seem to be any tools to do the job properly. If it's beyond simple tiles or dropping multiple models into a scene, it becomes unwieldy. I'm thinking of trying Func_Godot. My other option is making a bunch of small, self contained rooms.

My issue is with learning materials insisting on doing nothing but plaigerizing assets off the marketplace and omitting steps from a workflow hust to stifle competition.

1.open game engine program
2.Block it out
3.?????
4. Profit

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

doing nothing but plaigerizing assets off the marketplace

Welcome to game development in 2024, where a game is just an amalgamation of assets held together by flimsy code. I have an eye for art and I am telling you, art assets are even more shoddily slapped together