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LeChampion1992

LeChampion1992

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Hey what's the best PC/laptop I can get for gaming that will be perfect for someone who wants to start modding and PC gaming but doesn't want to break the bank.

Here is what I'm looking for
Something able to run skylines or fallout 4 better then a Xbox 1, I prefer doing more RTS and city builder and mods for it.

I am on a budget and don't want to spend an arm and leg on this. Prefer under $750


At this point should I buy and make my own PC or are there laptops for a good price around.
 
just build your own pc. someone below is gonna say it's not for everyone but they're retarded and have never built a pc in their lives. if you can make a betty crocker cake you can 100% get a pc up and running from scratch in a couple hours
 
Between a laptop and a PC with the same specs the former's going to cost more, is less upgradeable, and often is a bitch to clean and re-paste. Laptops with dedicated GPUs, even gaming models have severe problems with heating, and heat is the number one killer of electronics. This ties into the issue of replacing broken parts: cheap-ish laptops have everything soldered and glued so the whole device can be considered lost if a component dies, assuming you don't send it to a repair shop doing component level repair.
 
Boris Blank's glass eye said:
Between a laptop and a PC with the same specs the former's going to cost more, is less upgradeable, and often is a bitch to clean and re-paste. Laptops with dedicated GPUs, even gaming models have severe problems with heating, and heat is the number one killer of electronics. This ties into the issue of replacing broken parts: cheap-ish laptops have everything soldered and glued so the whole device can be considered lost if a component dies, assuming you don't send it to a repair shop doing component level repair.
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The batteries in budget gaming laptops tend to be terrible as well. The thinking is that since you're gaming on it, you're drawing so much power from it that you'll need to be plugged in anyway, so they'll put the smallest and cheapest battery in it possible. When it's new you'll get 90 minutes of battery life out of it running at idle and when it's old it won't run at all if it's not plugged in. It's just like using a budget non-gaming laptop except you're paying 4 times as much for that experience.
 
It is possible to build a PC for $350, that's rougly what you're going to have left after buying any entry level graphics card right now. The new i3 is supposedly the budget king at $100, 16GB of RAM for another hundo, then $150 left for the cheapest possible budget motherboard, PSU and HDD/SSD which seems almost possible but it isnt.

Going down the sensible APU and AMD route the local prices here indicates that ~$450 can get you a 6 core/12 thread Ryzen 5 5600G, mobo and 16GB RAM. Then, idk, $80 for a PSU, $100 for a 1TB SSD and maybe another hundo for a case. A total of $730, twenty left for shipping.

Later on you can add a large mechanical HDD for general storage(4-6TB for $100?), ditch the stock cooler for something much better and quieter($50) and buy a discrete GPU for a normal price in 2025.
 
The bigger the PC case, the bigger the cooling fans, which means you can push the same amount of air with less rpms on the fans, which means your PC will be quieter.

Only get a laptop if you travel a lot or don't have the room for a real PC setup.
 
Desktop is objectively a better option in terms of pure horsepower and upgradeability, Smaug's advice is probably best in terms of options right now. Though laptops have some advantages like portability and convenience and that might be enough to swing it for you, especially if you travel/have little space like Shroom King said.

Honestly, this isn't 2005 anymore and the gap between desktop and laptop isn't lightyears these days. if you are looking at RTS games and city builders even an older notebook will be enough for you. If you are seriously considering a laptop go take a look at sites or techtubers that focus on laptops specifically to see what's out there (notebookcheck has a crapload of information and reviews). These threads attract the same gaggle of retards because the Desktop/Laptop debate is the console war equivalent for PC and you'll just get low IQ mongs shitting up the thread with their ice cold takes.
 
Smaug's Smokey Hole said:
buy a discrete GPU for a normal price in 2025.
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even if that hardcore doomer prediction of gpu prices is true, who the fuck is going to wait three years to play vidya just to save a few hundred bucks? just get a 1050 ti, yeah it's overpriced rn but it handles games up through the mid-late 2010s perfectly and it's worth spending $150 more than you would've in 2016
 
If you can, build it yourself or have a tech inclined associate scratch build it. That's always best.

If that's not an option, there are some good PC building services out there. IBuyPower has usually treated me well, but wait for a sale before you dive in there.

Also, as pointed out, unless you really need that laptop for being a laptop (if you're on the road all the time and live out of hotels, ect...) desktop is always a better gaming option.
 
Boris Blank's glass eye said:
Between a laptop and a PC with the same specs the former's going to cost more, is less upgradeable, and often is a bitch to clean and re-paste. Laptops with dedicated GPUs, even gaming models have severe problems with heating, and heat is the number one killer of electronics. This ties into the issue of replacing broken parts: cheap-ish laptops have everything soldered and glued so the whole device can be considered lost if a component dies, assuming you don't send it to a repair shop doing component level repair.
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Thats why I consider the best laptops the ones that can actually cool themselves
 
MT Foxtrot said:
If you can, build it yourself or have a tech inclined associate scratch build it. That's always best.

If that's not an option, there are some good PC building services out there. IBuyPower has usually treated me well, but wait for a sale before you dive in there.

Also, as pointed out, unless you really need that laptop for being a laptop (if you're on the road all the time and live out of hotels, ect...) desktop is always a better gaming option.
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Building it yourself is easier than ever and cable management, just like IO shields, is a hoax. You don't need to manage the cables, just keep them out of the fans so they don't rattle.
 
ddw said:
even if that hardcore doomer prediction of gpu prices is true, who the fuck is going to wait three years to play vidya just to save a few hundred bucks? just get a 1050 ti, yeah it's overpriced rn but it handles games up through the mid-late 2010s perfectly and it's worth spending $150 more than you would've in 2016
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A good 1050ti is hard to beat for what it does. I was very impressed when I had one.
 
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