Dramacow Gatis Lagzdins / goatis / sv3rige / Kids Range - Raw Meat Eating Influencer

FatBoi said:
the old man was having a heart was dying and he filmed it. He didn't kill him.
vg is a disgusting and amoral manchild, but he still has to kill anyone.
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He made his elderly grandfather march up a large hill with him despite knowing he had heart and breathing problems and didn't bring a first aid kit. He didn't call for help, he didn't administer CPR, he didn't take immediately take him to the hospital. He pointed a camera in his face and recorded his agony while other people did all the work. At the very least he killed his grandfather through negligence. That's assuming the fucking psychopath didn't intentionally set him up to die there.
 
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Therealhomor said:
Since its hard for some people to tell how much of what Gatis says is true and how much of it is bullshit (HINT: vast majority falls into the latter category) I decided to review various bits of his diet advice and try to sort the reasonable stuff from the dumb shit. I'll be talking about these things one by one, starting from what I find the least crazy to the most crazy.

As a disclaimer: I am not a doctor or a dietician, my opinions are based only anecdotal evidence and whatever I can find on Google. But I can 100% guarantee that I am exactly as qualified to speak on this topic as Gatis, and I could probably do more pushups than him.

Raw Beef: Actually not that bad for you. Often people will leave a fair bit of redness in their beef even when they cook it, it makes it nice and juicy! Health risks associated with this are pretty low. Beef is usually considered the safest meat to eat rare or even raw. Steak Tartare is considered a delicacy even in the most tight-assed Western countries.

Raw Eggs: Any kid whose ever eaten cookie dough can tell you a raw egg or two won't hurt you. Even groups that usually air on the side of caution like the CDC or the FDA say the risk of getting sick from them is pretty low as long as the animal is healthy. Shit, Rocky did it, and he's got like seven movies!

Various Organs: This is a gray area. Most organs are considered perfectly safe to eat except for a few notable standouts. Liver, sausages and kidneys are a good example of organs that have reached a certain level of popularity in the states. If the livestock wasn't healthy, though, it can be a bit riskier, and some might like the taste a lot less than muscle meat. For the most part, the only thing you really have to worry about is gout. Thankfully, gout isn't fatal or anything and usually clears up on its own. If you get gout, you can just start a YouTube LP channel or go to the prom with your asian girlfriend and dance through the pain.

Blood: Surprisingly, it isn't uncommon for people to eat and cook with blood. Its very rich in iron (it figures, since that's where it goes.) The only probably is its a little too rich in it, and can lead to problems like diarrhea, vomiting and hemochromatosis. It's like the old saying goes: too much of a good thing is always bad. Plus, making blood a regular part of your diet makes it harder to tell you apart from a vampire, which is very inconvenient for monster hunts.
But as an aside, there's absolutely no validity to Gatis' theory that blood is the *only* ways humans are supposed to hydrate. Carnivores of all kinds drink water, and blood doesn't hydrate you very well at all. Its full of sodium and other shit that dries you out more than anything. Water is perfectly fine. Drink it.

Bones: I mean, you could eat a bone whole with no ill effects except maybe hurting your teeth? Raw bone tastes like shit and is about as easy to chew as pebbles, but you can do it just fine. Cooking with bones, on the other hand, is an awesome idea because it enhances flavor and reduces waste. Chefs can also do really amazing things with bones, like make jelly and broth. You put that shit in with some meat and a potato? Baby, you got a stew goin'.
Interesting, I've been told Gatis actually got sick from eating rotten bone marrow once, so this is one case where we might actually disagree on the safety of something in the other direction. To his credit, carnivores often leave the bones of their prey sitting around uneaten.

Unpasturized Milk: We're officially into "dumb" territory now. For the most part, unpasturized milk isn't super dangerous or anything. It carries a much higher risk of salmonella and other non-fatal illnesses. The reason I think its dumb is because the tradeoff for shitting like a firehose is untreated milk is *slightly* higher in certain enzymes and vitamins. However, the amount you get from it is so negligible it can be dwarfed by that pair of chicken eyes you just munched. It isn't worth the risk for virtually no reward. Plus, the only truly "natural" way to drink milk is straight from a woman's juicy titty. But a carton of milk is much cheaper than a big titty goth gf so we'll move on.

Antinutrients: Not a food per se, but something Gatis talks about a lot. I was surprised to find out this was a real thing, and then totally unsurprised to find that they're in such minuscule quantities in most foods you'll never have to worry about them unless you're already malnourished. I don't know about you, but when I'm starving I don't jump for a raw potato. Cooking seems to completely eliminate this problem for most problematic foods, and "antinutrients" aren't even always considered bad. If you're really concerned about it, eating a single raw egg is enough to offset any threat you might have. Its that insignificant.

Raw Pork/Poultry: The good news is that thanks to new meat industry standards, you can cook both these meats to a much lower tempature. The bad news is, eating them raw still runs a very high risk of giving you a stomach virus even when the animals are healthy and live a good life in a clean living space. Bacteria loves raw white meat even more than Tyrone does. It probably won't kill you or anything, some cultures even do it as a treat, but IMO it's not worth the risk. Besides, raw beef already tastes better.

Brain/Spinal Tissue: DON'T DO IT NIGGA. Sometimes brain is edible but even in those cases its so densely packed with cholesterol (which in moderation is good for you, but this shit has way too much) that it can make you very sick or give you a heart/blood condition if you're not careful. Plus, there's a significantly higher than average risk of catching a prion, which are always fatal and have no cure. Even if the risk was one in a million, it isn't worth it, because a prion is an especially horrible way to die. But if you're sure the brain is clean, I guess eating a little head cheese once in a blue moon won't kill you.

Rotten Food: Come the fuck on. You know that shit is bad for you. If eating a sick animal is dangerous for you, imagine how bad a dead animal whose bacteria and toxic fluids have been allowed to fester and rapidly expand. Imagine that shit with no kidneys or liver to filter it. The horrific smell and awful taste should be enough to drive you away. Gatis is only able to handle this shit because he has pica. That's why idiots who try to imitate him in this regard often end up vomiting their guts out before they even get a second bite in.

Human Flesh: Not only is eating other people a rude thing to do, it's also totally unhealthy! You know how I said the rare risk of contracting a prion from eating brains/spines invalidated any potential benefit? Getting a prion from eating human meat isn't even rare, its a fairly common reaction! When an animal eats its own kin, bad juju goes down. There's a reason the Donner Party didn't get very far out of the mountain.

Overall, my research into this stuff actually surprised me. I was pretty impressed with how many mainstream sources that are widely considered reliable actually supported and even encouraged a lot of the stuff from the top half. One recurring theme I saw though was how many of these foods are very high in nutrients. Often, too high. Blood has a ton of iron to the point where it can give you iron poisoning. Liver is full of Vitamin A, but you'll end up pissing most of it out. This brings us to the core problem: how "nourished" do you have to be? Are you so diabetic that you need to get half your body weight in animal corpses to get the vitamins you need to not fall over and die on the spot? How much of a good thing is too much?

If we went by the logic that "more nutrients = more power!" then fat people would be the most healthy motherfuckes alive. You could argue that they only got fat because of all the vegetable oils, sugars, preservatives and "antinutrients" but try binging 8000 calories worth of raw meat every day for a month and see if you don't balloon up. Moderation is key,

The big takeaway I got from all this is that Gatis is building his entire worldview from a very mainstream fad diet called "Paleo" that many people already take part in and talk about online. Gatis just takes regular Paleo Diet principles and mixes them in with his own special form of pseudoscience, spiritual woo and general insanity and sells it as some kind of new, enlightened thing instead of a narcissistic rebranding of an existing thing with tons of shit he just pulled out of his ass. If you're a fan of Gatis, you've been conned by a crazy person. He's not telling you anything you can't get elsewhere, uninfected by the taint of woo peddling. Don't walk away from Gatis. Run away.
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Vitamin A is fat soluble, you don't piss it out, it builds up in fatty tissues and can kill you in large amounts. Hence the reason you don't eat the livers of certain animals like polar bears, walrus, certain seals, certain dog breeds, etc... and you don't get prions from eating human flesh, you get it from eating the brains or nervous system tissue of an infected human (or animal) If it was spread through just the flesh it wouldn't be safe to eat cows or pretty much any other animal. Also, you have to cook blood before you eat it, it induces vomiting in humans if you drink it as is, and isn't digestible without being cooked
 
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WonderWino said:
Vitamin A is fat soluble, you don't piss it out, it builds up in fatty tissues and can kill you in large amounts. Hence the reason you don't eat the livers of certain animals like polar bears, walrus, certain seals, certain dog breeds, etc... and you don't get prions from eating human flesh, you get it from eating the brains or nervous system tissue of an infected human (or animal) If it was spread through just the flesh it wouldn't be safe to eat cows or pretty much any other animal. Also, you have to cook blood before you eat it, it induces vomiting in humans if you drink it as is, and isn't digestible without being cooked
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Thank you for the corrections, this has been very helpful. As I've said, my knowledge is limited.
 
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Vitamin A is fat soluble, you don't piss it out, it builds up in fatty tissues and can kill you in large amounts. Hence the reason you don't eat the livers of certain animals like polar bears, walrus, certain seals, certain dog breeds, etc... and you don't get prions from eating human flesh, you get it from eating the brains or nervous system tissue of an infected human (or animal) If it was spread through just the flesh it wouldn't be safe to eat cows or pretty much any other animal. Also, you have to cook blood before you eat it, it induces vomiting in humans if you drink it as is, and isn't digestible without being cooked
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Prions are also found in meat, but in smaller concentrations. All humans, healthy or not, are going to make you sick with prions. You can get sick from prions eating animal meat if the animal is sick with prions. Read about the mad cow disease, it easier to get sick with it if you eat things like the brain or stomach, but the muscle is dangerous too.
 
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FatBoi said:
Prions are also found in meat, but in smaller concentrations. All humans, healthy or not, are going to make you sick with prions. You can get sick from prions eating animal meat if the animal is sick with prions. Read about the mad cow disease, it easier to get sick with it if you eat things like the brain or stomach, but the muscle is dangerous too.
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No. Prions are explicitly contained to nervous system tissue. The brain and spinal tissue specifically. The only time you're going to see prions or anything mad cow related in meat is if its been slaughtered improperly and has become contaminated by exposure or mixture with nervous system tissue

Humans do not carry prions under normal circumstances. Only those who already have a prion disease themselves are a risk for that. Eating most humans will not give you a prion infection. Cannibalism has been a thing for a very long time in all kinds of situations, especially in the worlds navies - to the point they called it 'the custom of the sea' up until the 20th century and it was never an issue with such incidents.

Muscle and stomach have nothing to do with mad cow or any other prion disease unless they have been ground up or cross contaminated with nervous system tissue, which is why health departments all over the world are so hawkish about ensuring slaughtering and processing are handled very carefully in that regard
 
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The mad cow disease scare happened because meat companies were re-feeding diseased cow meat to healthy cows. (They were supposed to destroy the diseased cow meat.)

Unless you go out of your way to eat a diseased animal, or an animal fed on diseased meat, this shouldn't be an issue.
 
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WonderWino said:
No. Prions are explicitly contained to nervous system tissue. The brain and spinal tissue specifically. The only time you're going to see prions or anything mad cow related in meat is if its been slaughtered improperly and has become contaminated by exposure or mixture with nervous system tissue

Humans do not carry prions under normal circumstances. Only those who already have a prion disease themselves are a risk for that. Eating most humans will not give you a prion infection. Cannibalism has been a thing for a very long time in all kinds of situations, especially in the worlds navies - to the point they called it 'the custom of the sea' up until the 20th century and it was never an issue with such incidents.

Muscle and stomach have nothing to do with mad cow or any other prion disease unless they have been ground up or cross contaminated with nervous system tissue, which is why health departments all over the world are so hawkish about ensuring slaughtering and processing are handled very carefully in that regard
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Can you give me a source? Almost everywhere I look the information is that the central nervous system has more concentration, not that prions are exclusive to them. Even the spleen and tonsils have high concentrations of prions. Look up this paper, maybe your point of view can help me with this problem: https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/s1473-3099(03)00578-4
If your opinion is that there's such a small amount of prions in flesh there's little risk in eating it I guess I can see your point. But is not something that anyone is going to recommend doing outside of do or die situations.
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The mad cow disease scare happened because meat companies were re-feeding diseased cow meat to healthy cows. (They were supposed to destroy the diseased cow meat.)

Unless you go out of your way to eat a diseased animal, or an animal fed on diseased meat, this shouldn't be an issue.
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My point isn't that eating healthy animals is dangerous, it is that eating any part of a healthy human or a sick animal is. Maybe I'm wrong if I interpreted incorrectly the information.
 
People on Vegan Gains's livestream were saying sv3rige died the other day. Is this true? I'm thinking trolling lol


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