Gen Z Subcultures

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

Replying to OP:

• What is the metro clique? I've never heard that before
• I thought preps were more of a Gen X thing

Black women are absolutely everywhere in advertising now, and young white girl celebrities are trying to appear black themselves. Here's Miranda Cosgrove in 2010:
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and here she is in the new iCarly reboot:
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it's like the goal of her makeup department is "how can we make her look as black as possible without making it seem like blackface"

This is creepy enough that it took me a minute to realize Sam is black now.

 

[celebrityskin]

The rest are a shapeless mess of oversized shirts and mom jeans, finished off with a pair of dirty white trainers. Ten years ago, even the fat girls with no body confidence were rocking cute skirts and black tights. Now everyone dresses like they're in the middle of painting the house.

Yeah I'm a later millenial guy and I see where you're coming from. I'm a tall guy who's naturally slim with broad shoulders and am quite muscular so i've been hating the male fashion trend swing from slim fitting to baggy

I think after the mid-90s revival there's just a late/early 90s craze going on right now and outside of grunge and goth girl shit those eras weren't all that good fashion wise.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I remember prep just being a strawman every slightly odd teenager built to make themselves feel better. Being a nerd was mostly mainstream but bringing comic books and manga to school would get a few giggles and light jabs.

 

[BelUwUga]

I'd rather be call a nerdfag than Sheldon. And that gorilla and I are going to be very happy together.

And yea, I've heard good things about Deep Space 9 but never got around to checking it out since I didn't grow up watching it. I'll try and see if it's on any of the streaming platforms or if I can get it cheap online.

Get a VPN, get qbittorrent, go here, and pick the relevant site from the list that shows up under this button: Personally I use https://1337x.to/ for none-weeb shit, and https://nyaa.si/ for my weeb shit. Sometimes you need to dig around a bit to find what you're looking for and Google/DDG/Yandex are SEO abused as fuck when it comes to looking for torrent sites. At least the list is a semi-trustable start(you usually want to go back if Cryllic characters start showing up). When you go to download something click the "Magnet URL" button.
N.B. A lot of college textbooks can also be torrented, searching by ISBN works well. WebOasis also lists a lot of text archive resources.

 

[WULULULULU]

Get a VPN

I really wish I can get VPN without the whole subscription bullshit. And I mean a reliable one and not some backwater shit.

 

[BelUwUga]

I really wish I can get VPN without the whole subscription bullshit. And I mean a reliable one and not some backwater shit.

Yeah unfortunately VPNs are a lot like condoms. You want to be sure of the provenance and it's not something worth cheaping out on. I would recommend mine but they were bought out by a firm that glows brighter than the sun. Once it expires I'm finding greener pastures myself. I only use it for piracy and considering I'm already liable for trillions/a few millennia in jail for that, I'm simply not concerned about it anymore.

 

[Sperghetti]

I think the weird ambiguity of some of these responses kind of summarizes the issue.

Subcultures just used to be way more blatant. The people who were in them tended to label themselves, and the people outside of them could easily identify them. The goths called themselves goth, and we all knew what the goth kids looked like. Same with punks and skaters and emo kids. The biggest exception was probably "preps" which was more of a label assigned by outsiders to generically trendy, upscale teenagers. And they were definitely subcultures as that single term encompassed how they dressed, the music they listened to, the entertainment they consumed, etc.

That notion of a solid, concise label seems to be what's missing. There's no shortage of distinct social groups and trends among them, yet there seems to be no real, encompassing label used by either side except stuff like "those kids who like A and are also usually into B and do C". Any label you can find tends to just define one aspect.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Every generation reflects something in the world that has shaped them collectively and I can't think of anything more overwhelming in the world today than utter mediocrity and utter homogeneity. We can give as much shit as we want to all the BPD cutters and histrionic weirdos of the past as we want, they were interesting and existed to stand out. Now, there's nothing to make someone stand apart. It's just vague and noncommittal interests that people sort of sail through as they look at the same Onlyfans and the blandness of the present age grinds itself upon people's souls.

 

[Pissmaster]

Metro from what I recall was guys learning how to shower/take care of themselves, use products (hair gel, cologne) they dressed well, that is to say as well as anyone could dress in the 2000s, I would equate it to something like a boy band of those times fashion wise except a little faggier/colourful. They would hang out in clubs and were into hardstyle/techno with out going full eshays.

Oh, that thing where straight dudes started acting overtly gay while still being straight. I remember that South Park episode

Every generation reflects something in the world that has shaped them collectively and I can't think of anything more overwhelming in the world today than utter mediocrity and utter homogeneity. We can give as much shit as we want to all the BPD cutters and histrionic weirdos of the past as we want, they were interesting and existed to stand out. Now, there's nothing to make someone stand apart. It's just vague and noncommittal interests that people sort of sail through as they look at the same Onlyfans and the blandness of the present age grinds itself upon people's souls.

Makes sense to me. There's no more gatekeeping, and the concept of being a poser is all but gone, so histrionic psychos took over everything and turned all of culture into a gigantic indistinct bland gumbo.

 

[CharcoalChkn]

I think the weird ambiguity of some of these responses kind of summarizes the issue.

Subcultures just used to be way more blatant. The people who were in them tended to label themselves, and the people outside of them could easily identify them. The goths called themselves goth, and we all knew what the goth kids looked like. Same with punks and skaters and emo kids. The biggest exception was probably "preps" which was more of a label assigned by outsiders to generically trendy, upscale teenagers. And they were definitely subcultures as that single term encompassed how they dressed, the music they listened to, the entertainment they consumed, etc.

That notion of a solid, concise label seems to be what's missing. There's no shortage of distinct social groups and trends among them, yet there seems to be no real, encompassing label used by either side except stuff like "those kids who like A and are also usually into B and do C". Any label you can find tends to just define one aspect.

I think this perfectly sums up how I feel.

I can tell it's there, but I struggle to pin point it.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

Sort of. If you're into the MCU, Star Wars, or Beninfilms you're a cool nerd,

Spoiler: Off Topic.

What the fuck is a Beninfilms? Normally I can sort of translate my retardation, but here I have no idea what I was trying to type. I think I need to lay off the special sauce for awhile.

 

[Lisdexamfetamine ℞]

Also the nigger "side hustle" culture some white zoomers adopted.
There is also the rich zoomer kid subculture consisting of eternal boredom and smugness combined with some sort of LA-style sociopathy.

Almost every white zoomer I know does fraud these days "swipelife" mostly just to flex on TikTok and insta

 

[Super Sad Smile]

I'm a zoomer and I think most cultures are just various degrees of shills and sheep. The products may change, but they will purchase/support whatever's new and then forget about it when something new comes up. They also think liking stuff from before the 21st century is for retards unless our modern reboot culture uses it. At which point they are "longtime fans. No I don't care about the predecessors/orignal. Why's it matter, boomer."

For reference, a lot of my gamer friends love the whole esports and GAMER products they keep pushing and think it's normal to pay for day 1 dlc. The idea of trying stuff from before gaming was fucked never occurs to them unless it's Nintendo related. Another example I can think of is someone started a DnD club at my high school because of Stranger Things and when I asked they said they don't even play and just watch critical role instead.

I hate how much my generation worships famous people though. They really can't read between the lines about them, and love talking about how fucking kpop/twitch streamers/etc are wholesome and talented. It's a lot of sheep being led by whichever shill acts as the current shepherd in my opinion.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

I'm a zoomer and I think most cultures are just various degrees of shills and sheep. The products may change, but they will purchase/support whatever's new and then forget about it when something new comes up. They also think liking stuff from before the 21st century is for retards unless our modern reboot culture uses it. At which point they are "longtime fans. No I don't care about the predecessors/orignal. Why's it matter, boomer."

For reference, a lot of my gamer friends love the whole esports and GAMER products they keep pushing and think it's normal to pay for day 1 dlc. The idea of trying stuff from before gaming was fucked never occurs to them unless it's Nintendo related. Another example I can think of is someone started a DnD club at my high school because of Stranger Things and when I asked they said they don't even play and just watch critical role instead.

I hate how much my generation worships famous people though. They really can't read between the lines about them, and love talking about how fucking kpop/twitch streamers/etc are wholesome and talented. It's a lot of sheep being led by whichever shill acts as the current shepherd in my opinion.

And this is obviously the only time in history people have ever followed dumb trends or tried to pick up hobbies because they saw them on da tee-vees. Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee flicks plus the Karate Kid a bit later totally didn't clog up dojos with mouthbreathers and edgelords.

Spoiler

I actually agree with most of the points you've made. Streamer worship especially all the cocksucking of a man whose name starts with C and end with L gets on my nerves even if he is sometimes funny.

My point is, people have always been doing this crap. It's just more widespread and annoying now that accessing popular culture is easier, and it's a bit gayer too because before you at least had to socialize with people IRL if you wanted to sperg about The Beatles or tell your gal pals just how dreamy Rock Hudson was in pilllowtalk.

 

[Dom Cruise]

The idea of trying stuff from before gaming was fucked never occurs to them unless it's Nintendo related.

This is really depressing, they're literally missing everything good about gaming.

It reminds me of a lot of newer anime "fans" refuse to watch anything older than 2013 or so, which is completely absurd, you have no right to call yourself an anime fan if you've never seen anything older than that.

 

[Certified_Autist]

There aren't really distinct subcultures compared to even 10 or 20 years ago. If I absolutely had to point out subcultures, it would be three groups: people who lean "country", people who lean "ghetto", and a third nameless group that has no culture besides Twitter and Netflix.

And the thing about those subcultures is they are mainly superficial aesthetics and not based on actual interests. Weeb shit is mainstream. Vidya is mainstream. Rap is mainstream. "Nerd" shit, likewise. I've seen various people from all of the above demographics into them.

Sort of related to the culture thing, I have noticed that people today people aspire to "wealth" but not to "class". It used to be that everybody wanted to larp as a WASP blueblood, on top of having money and nice stuff. People still want money and nice stuff, but don't care about trying to fit into "upper-class" social niches anymore.

One big difference that others have already touched on- "wigger" isn't really a thing anymore because listening to rap and using ebonics slang phrases is normalized now. Not normalized in the sense that every zoomer does it, but that it is not seen as weird or unusual.

 

[Ser Prize]

And this is obviously the only time in history people have ever followed dumb trends or tried to pick up hobbies because they saw them on da tee-vees. Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee flicks plus the Karate Kid a bit later totally didn't clog up dojos with mouthbreathers and edgelords.

Spoiler

I actually agree with most of the points you've made. Streamer worship especially all the cocksucking of a man whose name starts with C and end with L gets on my nerves even if he is sometimes funny.

My point is, people have always been doing this crap. It's just more widespread and annoying now that accessing popular culture is easier, and it's a bit gayer too because before you at least had to socialize with people IRL if you wanted to sperg about The Beatles or tell your gal pals just how dreamy Rock Hudson was in pilllowtalk.

At least those other things were actual hobbies. I'm not sure what there is to emulate about famous streamers.

 

[Jimmy Olsen]

At least those other things were actual hobbies. I'm not sure what there is to emulate about famous streamers.

Fair enough.


BUT DAAAD STREAMING IS A REAL JOB!

 

[Ser Prize]

Fair enough.


BUT DAAAD STREAMING IS A REAL JOB!

I'm not opposed to streamers, or those who want to get a job streaming, but people who try to emulate these hipster e celeb streamers are really barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Yes, they have many cliques and subcultures and they sometimes overlap. I'd make a Ven-Diagram but I haven't the effort for that.

Neurotypical Male

• Regular FPS Players
• Mid to Late 20th Century Movie and TV fans

I probably missed a few, but that's the basic idea.

Huh, so there are at least a few I could potentially get along with. Interesting.

Do nerds even exist as a subculture anymore? I'm late millenial and it seems that ever since Big Bang Theory and MCU 'nerd' is the new normal.

The mainstreaming of nerds started back in ~1997 when the early Millennials were in HS, it seems that it was completed by the Zoomers.