General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Namesarehardtocomeupwith]

Sorry not sorry.

 

[ZMOT]

Isn't Niji kind of quantity over quality anyway? If you have 30 talents bringing in 50K a month each, or 300 talents bringing in 5K a month each, the results are the same. Not saying Niji is trash, its just a different business model. Throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks. Some will rise to the top. Ironmouse, nyanners, etc.

Edit: just realized Mouse and Nyanners are Vshojo not Niji. Which shows how much I actually can be bothered to watch Niji. Tell me how great one piece is and i'tll tell you I don't have 500 hours to watch it.

implying you got 500 hours to watch all of hololive's current output. they can be considered quantity over quality as well if you want to look at it this way, and if you really wanna get into it you can start numberfagging with high vs low (which is imo also the reason we won't see a new jp gen for a while, pretty sure cover is aware of that too).

the thing is diversity helps (not in the woketard sense), no one watches only ever one chuuba forever and nothing else, so there is always some overlap. there are also different demographics, sure, haachama shitposting from her kitchen will inevitably attract more eyeballs and buzz than lamy slowly getting wasted on stream, but people who think the former is stupid and unfunny might watch the latter asf. same for the talent itself where the whole appearance and personality makes a much bigger individual difference.
in the end you want a lot of different talent that compliment each other, niji does that just as well as holo, it's just organized differently (which is something they might wanna work on, it's much easier to figure out how holos all relate to each other as a springboard).

To be fair, she only has the most subs because YouTube's Anti-Bot protection software didn't nuke her subscribers from orbit two days ago like it did for the other two (Elira went from 16-7K, Pomu 13-6K, Finana 15-14K). She's actually the slowest riser and the debut thing certainly may not help.

But yes, you see the point: Hololive as a brand is bigger than the individuals. That's why Indies go to the big companies in the first place. Nene's past life had 1K subscribers and she reached 90K after her debut solely for existing. Demondice is oozing with talent but no one found them. Keekihime existed in totally different pop culture circles that largely evaded us.

And yet look at Calli now. 25x DemonDice's subs despite sticking to her exact philosophy and not really changing. Any talk about talent levels and hard work etc become redundant.

surprised a lot of them still haven't formed their own group or someone came up with their own promotion agency (besides scammers in the past). networking and collabs are the way to find more oshis, especially the ones that aren't that mainstream compatible or have an easily memeable schtick. probably would've never followed kanata and find out what a bro-tier tenshi she is if not for her collabs and interactions with coco, and there are probably way more indies of that kind that get overlooked and linger with a few hundred subs. can you imagine watame without hololive, and she's still one of the more noticeable unique ones.

 

[SmugPeko]

Yeah i agree that nijisanji isn't lacking in talent department its just that hololive brand grown so much especially in the west last year . Fans shouldn't really expect HoloEN level of growth and live viewers for nijiEN especially now that the vtuber hype slowed down.

If the newly debuted nijiEN can pull 3k-5k live viewers consistently i would consider it as very successful.

 

[Grass4Cats]

Leave it to the duck to turn Rushia leaving into creative, clippable content though (the press conference).

That stream is the definition of Pain Shuba.

 

[horni]

EXCUSE ME?
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"What am I looking at? welp, time to use my shit Japanese to read it! >>the method of feeling good wh<<oh"

I dont like to share an opinion with an ENVtuber, so just out of spite I now fully support the tranny shark.
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Enjoy while it lasts I say, 41% is a pretty big chance:

 

[thhrang]

I have an update on the BrownBeeTV impersonation Discord. It seems to have been purged, save for one channel. The Twitter account is still up and hasn't been deactivated, though.

The server was renamed to "sorry", and all of the channels (minus the pet pictures one) has been purged for some reason. I was not able to witness this purge happen live, so I sadly don't have any archive of went down - the last server archive that I made was from May 11th, and is available here.

To get some definitive answers about this, I reached out to my previous source, the server member who helped me figure out that Seyop was Spins. He was seemingly present when this purge happened, and he gave some very interesting details.


So there we have it. Seyop/Spins pussied out and purged everything in the Discord, lmao.
Also, he changed his name on Discord to Strawberry, for some reason.


Interestingly however, the Discord Chat Exporter program that I've been using is showing that other channels are still there, but I just don't have access to them.

Spoiler: Screenshots

And this is what happens when I try to export any of the channels (minus the pets one):

This is important because the program is notably able to showcase channels locked behind roles, like administrator channels. You can't archive what is inside of the channel, but you get to see the names of them and such.

Spoiler: Example

This is what you normally see on the sidebar of the Hololive Fan Discord.

But, with the Chat Archive, I can actually see the names of the channels that the moderators use.

So, what this means is that the BrownBee server might still be in operation, but that you need a certain role in order to use the channels. That would explain why the channels still exist in the chat exporter despite not being visible via normal Discord.

TL;DR: Senzawa Archive/Seyop/Spins has seemingly pussied out of the public Discord impersonation after being called out. The channels may now be locked behind roles.

 

[Amesame]

I think that's a shrimp, and part of Ame's lore is that she's Scottish for some reason

I think it's to do with when she did an Accent stream, she decided every accent she tried ended up sounding scottish.

Ame and Gura really have good chemistry. It feels like watching two bestfriends talking with each other.

Both Amelia and Gura have spoken about how they knew each other pre Hololive, that probably translates to how comfortable they are with each other.

 

[mr.moon1488]

lol if anyone here just particularly enjoys broken English, I guess this channel is mostly centered around her trying to learn English.

 

[hero_1n]

Ina is having a member karaoke and shes singing Black Parade.

Playlist so far:

• Black Parade ft. Calli
• Wrecking Ball (yes, really)
• City of Stars
• Another Day of Sun
• Spicy Calamari Inkantation
• Toxic (dedicated to Ame lmao)
• KING (twice)
• Platinum Disco
• ReoNa - ANIMA
• Take me home
• Ungravel
• Yoru ni Kakeru
  
  

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Ina is too cute for this world

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

I just started on the podcast vod and when they showed off the room with the laptops, Ame said they were for writing scathing reviews of something coming later. Was she dunking on the Niji debuts or was there something else?

 

[kuuu]

Why do people assume animosity between holo and niji when we have more than enough instances of them exhibiting camaraderie? Just the fact that they all are coming from, pretty much, the same places.
Big wigs might shit on each other behind closed doors, sure, but talents have nothing to do with it.

 

[SmugPeko]

I just started on the podcast vod and when they showed off the room with the laptops, Ame said they were for writing scathing reviews of something coming later. Was she dunking on the Niji debuts or was there something else?

Why would she do that? I see no reason.

 

[Scuttle]

I just started on the podcast vod and when they showed off the room with the laptops, Ame said they were for writing scathing reviews of something coming later. Was she dunking on the Niji debuts or was there something else?

I couldn't think of a single reason Ame would fire shots at Nijisanji and much less the 3 girls who have come from exactly the same grassroots audition process she did to get to where she is.

Niji and Holo are business rivals but they collaborate with one another and get along whenever the glacial Japanese bureaucracy permits them to outside of Twitter. It would be a very weird, borderline sociopathic decision to shit on NijiEN at the same time you both have a guest (who happens to be the 2nd most subbed V-tuber ever) and are piloting a new radio show.

 

[Bingeamint]

Does anyone here actually keep up the Hatos cursed stuff that she does. I used to be quite with it then she had her break thing and I haven't watched them since, think they become abit too... samey? Where is a just an endless cycle of whatever she does now. So yeah if anyone knows where she currently at with it now, be much appreciated.

 

[Hmmpf!]

Does anyone here actually keep up the Hatos cursed stuff that she does. I used to be quite with it then she had her break thing and I haven't watched them since, think they become abit too... samey? Where is a just an endless cycle of whatever she does now. So yeah if anyone knows where she currently at with it now, be much appreciated.

Speaking of Haato, does anyone feel weird that she posts these without any (even crappy meme) edits, not even in the description? Look at the months and post dates.



March is back when Haato on hiatus for her mental health. Idk why she didn't even bother.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

Does anyone here actually keep up the Hatos cursed stuff that she does. I used to be quite with it then she had her break thing and I haven't watched them since, think they become abit too... samey? Where is a just an endless cycle of whatever she does now. So yeah if anyone knows where she currently at with it now, be much appreciated.

Think of it as an add-on to a singing/Minecraft/whatever stream she's doing. That's mostly how she treats it right now, as well as a vehicle for switching between Haachama and Haato when she needs to. Don't take it too seriously, because she doesn't.

Current status seems to be that Chama was killed by Void or something, and Haato is taking over.

Speaking of Haato, does anyone feel weird that she posts these without any (even crappy meme) edits, not even in the description? Look at the months and post dates.
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March is back when Haato on hiatus for her mental health. Idk why she didn't even bother.

She most likely mixed up March and May because otherwise neither of those dates are a Sunday. Could always retcon it as time travel though.

 

[AlphaKilo]

I am very late but in case you don't want to watch the entirety of Nijisanji EN's debut streams, Ajasapa got you covered:

 

[Uknew]

I still didnt watch the nijiEN debut till now, better check it before seeing their first stream tomorrow. Their song for debut is quite good, I wonder how you all feel about the song?

Other than that, Nijisanji ID just announce that their opening the 6th Gen Audition. They go with girl line up again.


Here's how the actual liver model look like:


I'm just surprise that they still open an audition. I think the 5th Gen didnt really grew that much (there's also that timing with HoloID Gen 2 yikes!). Overall... I didnt quite like the model, but still optimistic to see more of their personality if they finally debut.

Link: 6th Gen Audition Open

 

[Diya]

I am very late but in case you don't want to watch the entirety of Nijisanji EN's debut streams, Ajasapa got you covered:

You know what, I can enjoy that. I'm weak for Elira mature vibe. My interest shoot up by a lot.

[One Deez nuts joke later]

I'll keep my excitement moderate and realistic.

 

[augment]

And why in god's green earth would you want to pander to the bean demographic, specially when a huge chunk of them (at least the ones into weeb shit) know English for the most part.

If I had to guess, it's because the weeb latino demographic is precisely the cringy garbage group of silver spooned suburbanites who keep spouting the same stuff over and over. With a dedicated language streamer, you open up the audience.