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So is Zen back in vshojo now?
 
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I'll probably edit this later with some autistic lawfag analysis and replies, but I want to point out one thing that really stands out to me in VShojo's Press Release.

They state that the fake url only came into existence at the end of October, so the amount of damage was minimal.

This is true about vshojo.org

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But there is another:

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vshojo.net was registered back in May of 2021, and uses the same registrar as vshojo.org and currently leads to a blank page.

I'm inclined to believe that vshojo.net was previously used for the same phishing scam and was wiped and replaced with vshojo.org in october.

Edit: Godfuckingdamnit, they are part of the same fucking ring.

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vshojo.net fucking backlinks straight to doxbin.

This went on for months. Other shit about the VShojo response raises red flags for me, but this makes me believe Nux more than VShojo.
 
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Scuttle said:
It's worthy of note that it's actually not a KF rrat (mostly provided by me, hehe) that this interrupts legal proceedings. From VSHOJO's own Reddit statement, they make direct mention that the decision to remain silent was 'unanimoisly agreed' upon by both the law enforcement and Cybersecurity team.

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Much like most things in life, you're going to trust that the professionals have everyone's best interests in mind. Keep in mind that the presence of law enforcement/cybersecurity is something that both VShojo and Nux agree existed, so there's no reason to doubt it.



When I initially made my post I also believed that it served to tighten the doxxer's inner circle, however the statement mentions this:

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And this:
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Their insinuation here is that Nux Taku actually got jebaited into learning of the wrong personal details of the doxxer, and therefore didn't tangibly accomplish more than a testimony VSHOJO could utilise to build their case. This in and of itself creates a new can of worms as to why VSHOJO's official account thanked him in response to his video if that video was full of misinformation and inherently went against their wishes, though. I can only surmise the Admin didn't get the memo.



Speaking of misinformation, I'd like to expand upon where the statement conflicts with the content of Nux's video, as Nux seems to actually lay more blame at VShojo's doorstep than may actually be appropriate.

For example, Nux actually talks about the chronology of this story, whilst also mentioning that
• 12 V-Tubers were doxxed by this person.
• There were dozens - if not hundreds - of victims.

That may well be true, but the way Nux speaks, or at least fails to differentiate the doxxer's history and this particular VShojo-related scam, frames it as VShojo's management silencing a huge, potentially fatal scandal with many victims. Well, this is what they had to say:

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The phishing scam that led to a fake replica of the official website hooked two victims, before being forcibly shut down less than a week later. With confirmation that both victims were safe and the scam had been halted, it does make sense to me that they'd elect to remain quiet and push for an arrest.

Of course, even if you take all this at face value, there are still questions that need to be asked:
• Who, if anyone, within the company allowed Nux to publish the video?
• Why did the official account respond to his video with a message of thanks, if him making the video and/or the content of the video wasn't endorsed by them?
• How is it physically possible for Nux's voice to be as eye-wateringly awful as it is?
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Alot of Corpo talk like how they mentioned only 2 people where successfully doxed but never mentioned how many people were attempted in the doxing. They also use the term "victim" very loosely they imply that Nux is a victim yet he was never doxxed and then say two victims were doxxed well if Nux was never doxed how can he be one of the victims.
Although I don't think Vshojo is telling any real lies I feel like they are omitting a shit tons of truths in order to spin the narrative in their favor.

This is great. You have Vshojo using its girls now to get the simps on their side and try to use their emotional manipulation but Nux has just as many simps plus one of the "ACTUAL" victims is taking Nuxs side that Vshojo is full of shit. Lemme see Vshojo tell the girl that was swatted and had her life in danger that she is wrong.
 
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Scoots said:
Same Nux is a good guy but this is not fair at all to him he has been nothing but cordial to this libel so far so I hope this mobbing pushes him to set shit straight in the way he usually does
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I will say tho if Mel chimes in against Nux i might give pause to be on Nux's side Mousey was another that gave me momentary pause but i just cant see Mel doing something like this without a very good reason
 
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Froot joined in. That leaves Melody, Zentreya and Hajime.
https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1463642844229423106 (https://archive.md/nFzMy)
https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1463667347315699713 (https://archive.md/fNYRC)
https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942 (https://archive.md/QIcm6)
https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1463634527352410118 (https://archive.md/pAZ44)
https://twitter.com/NyanNyanners/with_replies (https://archive.md/UpR4N)
https://twitter.com/_Silvervale_/status/1463636206974124033 (https://archive.md/EauLG)
https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463618863690518533 (https://archive.md/HgIkF)

https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1463648964406882306 (https://archive.md/0cwf1)

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https://twitter.com/ironmouse/status/1463628235464396812 (https://archive.md/ms02Z)
https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1463635238274445316 (https://archive.md/MF17X)
https://twitter.com/Techycutie/status/1463642764084666373 (https://archive.md/UakoM)
https://twitter.com/Yuki_Hatsu_Ch/with_replies (https://archive.md/3Q0zn)
https://twitter.com/Nux_Taku/status/1463649361024401415 (https://archive.md/1M6te)
https://twitter.com/Nux_Taku/status/1463646846275002372 (https://archive.md/Ee55g)
https://twitter.com/zentreya/status/1463652196369772547 (https://archive.md/gNN1P)
https://twitter.com/CovfefeChan/status/1463644929708769287 (https://archive.md/rw9c7)
 
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Despite their faults, this drama makes me appreciate Hololive and Nijisanji a lot more. They could be doing a lot worse than mildly incompetent managers.

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New Nux Tweet

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Is... is Nux being more tactful then everyone else involved? NuxTaku?
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Nux's going all in, isn't he? NGL I'm rooting for him, having most of VShojo going at him at the same time smells..... very fishy to me.
 
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SoundWave Superior said:
Btw anyone else ever watch
https://www.twitch.tv/laavispa_vtuber
https://twitter.com/LaAvispa_VTuber

She's not the best but she trys her best, apparently never played game till a few years ago and using vtubing as a chance to play more Also more tomboys BABY
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she's playing jump king with a keyboard. 100+ viewers is pretty cool.
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New Nux Tweet

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Is... is Nux being more tactful then everyone else involved? NuxTaku?
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Looks like they're playing retarded chicken. who's going to bow out first? nux or the corporation?
 
every vshojo tweet is about THEIR safety, when afaik they were never the ones in danger, and they still never mention the people they put in danger by not making any announcement.
It seems like a blatant cynical attempt to rally the simps to defend them
"2 victims" is pretty obviously bullshit too, a nonsense statement to try and minimize their actions or lack of
 
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