General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[EliteDoragon]

Gura is going to have to buy her TG ingredients tomorrow morning, that is going to be rough.

Also, I wonder if a factor in the Vshojo fracas might be Nux having more subs than any of them (if you do count him as a vtuber, then only Gura and Kizuna have more), making a group formed with him a seriously-sized competitor that would be much weaker without him.

Subs don't really translate to monetization directly. Almost all of the vshojo streamers, as per the Twitch leak, are fucking loaded and only getting more money as time goes on. Even Zentreya.

 

[murdered meat bag]

lmao, the Japanese are super accustomed to passive aggressive bullshit and backstabbing. Do you know anything at all about their work culture and their culture regarding speaking out? It's less direct than in the west, like what's happening here now, so instead they just do a bunch of backhanded shit. They're very accustomed to it. Also, the JP side of twitter and many online sites are also shitholes that have people yelling at eachother and complaining, but you don't read Japanese so you don't see it.

the japs kill themselves all the time from workplace bullying. they get the cold shoulder and work in social isolation and then there's the senpai bullying.

americans wouldn't stand jap bullying. look what happened to kiara.

 

[Sithis]

As far as i remember he never trashed Yfu just noted that Digi owns her model not Melodys and that Melody is not obligated to interact with her he never implied Yfu was anything more than an employee if digi correct me if i'm wrong

Nah you're probably right that he didn't trash YFU. It's been almost a year since that shit went down and here we are again with fresh Twitter drama

Subs don't really translate to monetization directly. Almost all of the vshojo streamers, as per the Twitch leak, are fucking loaded and only getting more money as time goes on. Even Zentreya.

Subs do = money on twitch though which he does a lot of streaming on. The dude is clearly doing well for himself so I think the rrats that vshojo is trying to twist this all into a chance to take out a likely heavyweight competitor have some merit

 

[EliteDoragon]

americans wouldn't stand jap bullying. look what happened to kiara.

Can we go back to Kiara doomposting? I'm sure she has done something to doompost about

Subs do = money on twitch though which he does a lot of streaming on. The dude is clearly doing well for himself so I think the rrats that vshojo is trying to twist this all into a chance to take out a likely heavyweight competitor have some merit

He is not talking about Twitch subs. He doesn't even have comparable follower numbers(The equivalent of YouTube Subs) on Twitch.

Ironmouse has 8k viewers on Twitch right now. I think people don't understand how much that is because of how numbers work in Youtube. 8k viewers on Twitch means that she is on her way to be a millionaire if she isn't one already.

 

[Cubanodun]

Can we go back to Kiara doomposting? I'm sure she has done something to doompost about

Sucking ass on Ori counts?

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Gura: Kyrie, your behind is unlike any other godly creation I've ever seen. The curvature of your figure is of utmost holiness. Let me taste your holie.

Gura: 'B' for 'wow there's a lot of boobs in this game'.

Gura: Dante's Bayonetta now? Yeah, but cooler. Sorry, Dante's cooler.

Gura: She put marshmellows on the sweet potatoes... it looked really good but I would've punched her that.

Gura: I need to go shopping -- boiled eggs is all I've been eating because I am out of food.

Gura's genuine love for DMC's characters, dialogue, and cutscenes is endearing. She managed to turn the stream around after the first hour. Also, I wonder if management yelled at her recently about not reading superchats because she seems to do it more often now, though still doesn't put a lot of effort into it.

 

[danny jr]

Can we go back to Kiara doomposting? I'm sure she has done something to doompost about

Relating to Japanese bullying vs American, do any of you know what the Japanese think of Kiara? Or do they just not think about her ever.

 

[Azchan]

I don't wanna clown on her because she apparently was a victim of the VShojo doxxing but Jesus fuxking Christ

>takes Nux's side and claims VShojo never did anything to help the victims after she allegedly contacted them about being sent a fake Vshojo Email
>spergs out on Gunrun and Vshojo for their lack of support towards the victims
>turns out she asked her discord (mods I guess) to message VShojo for her regarding her situation
>HER DISCORD DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEND THE FUCKING EMAIL
>complete 180° and is now trying to get on the good side of VShojo again

She's doing damage control because she got noticed by Vshoujo and she probably wanted to get in so she doesnt want to burn that bridge.

Noble spoke up

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Seems like the most reasonable response as someone who knows people on both sides of the argument.

Aaaaand Nux has started responding to tweets and leaking DMs. I guess he cracked.

https://twitter.com/Nux_Taku/status/1463701592776101890

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I guarantee hes coming back with a video with the receipts included

You don't cross nux or his friends and get out unscathed

He's too autistic and narcisistic to stay quiet. He wont release anything if he thinks the bridges are not fully burnt but if he sees that they burned the bridges he will go full retard and start posting every receipt to make himself look good.

Something that sticks out to me is that Melody shut off replies on her tweet about the Nux shit, afaik she's the only one to do so. It was also the tamest, calling for him to correct something and calling him out for disregarding the talent's feelings and the security department's facts. I'm kinda wondering if she was basically forced to put this out by the others. She doesn't seem too bothered by the video but bothered shit was incorrect.

Her reply seems like something she had to do to "address" the issue without directly throwing Nux under the bus (considering she was probably the person who told him it was OK to post it in the first place).

True, but the question now is whether he will launch a quick retaliation, or wait a bit and prerape a bit for maximum damage. Whichever he chose, I want to see this drama continues just for the sake of entertainment

He will probably wait a few days to gather receipts.

No statement from Nagzz yet but he did like Noble's tweet so he is aware

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He should stay the fuck out of it and that way he won't burn bridges.

Nah, its still funny. Seeing these people fighting among themselves is why EN VTubers is a mistake sometimes, unless you have a corpo/group to tard wrangle you

Welcome to Twitter drama.

Thats stupid as fuck. The only mistakes vshojo did was not tweeting about the phishing and then getting themselves involved to "investigate it" like a group of retarded dumbfucks. Theres people trying to scam through phishing emails for every single org all the time and that never makes the org responsible for it or even involved in it.
The victims of swatting need to go to the fucking police, not to this fake org of random online people trying to play internet vigilantes in doxxing discords lol

Not even your fucking bank will get this involved to stop phishing emails lol

Banks often send out PSAs saying that they will never ask for your information and other shit like that. Basically, the bare minimum a company has to do when someone is using its name to scam others (especially after they were doing auditions and probably a few hundred, even thousands applied).

 

[murdered meat bag]

Can we go back to Kiara doomposting? I'm sure she has done something to doompost about


He is not talking about Twitch subs. He doesn't even have comparable follower numbers(The equivalent of YouTube Subs) on Twitch.

Ironmouse has 8k viewers on Twitch right now. I think people don't understand how much that is because of how numbers work in Youtube. 8k viewers on Twitch means that she is on her way to be a millionaire if she isn't one already.

she was being super cute stupid dancing in the streets of austria. where was a van of peace when we needed one.

 

[reinigen]

He's too autistic and narcisistic to stay quiet. He wont release anything if he thinks the bridges are not fully burnt but if he sees that they burned the bridges he will go full retard and start posting every receipt to make himself look good.
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He will probably wait a few days to gather receipts.

This essentially. Nux doesn't get discouraged by shit like this. If anything, it motivates him to come back even harder. Expect this shitstorm to get even bigger. Knowing him too, if he had any good inside information (say, approximate announce date of Gen 2 vShoujo since he knew a lot of them fairly well) I would not at all be surprised if he held off for something like that in order to cause maximum damage/mayhem for the corpo by the information release. ESPECIALLY if he makes it a "This is not a vShoujo member problem, this is a vShoujo Corporate problem" type vid.

 

[Rezza]

To get our attention away from this drama, here's a good clip I find

Watching it, I realized just how far Miko went as a streamer. From one of the "literal who" into one of the most beloved VTuber worldwide, she must have went through a lot. Can you imagine telling the N-word Miko that one day she would have audience from all corners of the world?

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

This essentially. Nux doesn't get discouraged by shit like this. If anything, it motivates him to come back even harder. Expect this shitstorm to get even bigger. Knowing him too, if he had any good inside information (say, approximate announce date of Gen 2 vShoujo since he knew a lot of them fairly well) I would not at all be surprised if he held off for something like that in order to cause maximum damage/mayhem for the corpo by the information release. ESPECIALLY if he makes it a "This is not a vShoujo member problem, this is a vShoujo Corporate problem" type vid.

Imagine if he realizes he fucked up, sees all those people on twitter hating him and says fuck it, time to do a ultra autism kamikaze, and gives a facedox of everyone in vshojo. The grand finale. Its unlikely but nothings impossible when you go super spastic.

 

[murdered meat bag]

pippa is doing longer streams which is pretty nice. please read the mein kampf manga, its done well.

 

[RedRage]

Imagine if he realizes he fucked up, sees all those people on twitter hating him and says fuck it, time to do a ultra autism kamikaze, and gives a facedox of everyone in vshojo. The grand finale. Its unlikely but nothings impossible when you go super spastic.

I'm guessing that would be going to far, and would open him up to the same thing, if he has them at all, I can only see them being used in retaliation if ever.

 

[reinigen]

Imagine if he realizes he fucked up, sees all those people on twitter hating him and says fuck it, time to do a ultra autism kamikaze, and gives a facedox of everyone in vshojo. The grand finale. Its unlikely but nothings impossible when you go super spastic.

Part of me hopes he's autistic as Destiny and he records every discord conversation he has with people for exactly a situation like this. And lives in a single-party recording state.

 

[SmugPeko]

Subs don't really translate to monetization directly. Almost all of the vshojo streamers, as per the Twitch leak, are fucking loaded and only getting more money as time goes on. Even Zentreya.

This is base on the twitch leak.

Spoiler: Hololive numbers for comparison

miko with her weekly watch along



Pekora with 4-5 streams on twitch mostly watch along

 

[SandyCat]

To get our attention away from this drama, here's a good clip I find

Watching it, I realized just how far Miko went as a streamer. From one of the "literal who" into one of the most beloved VTuber worldwide, she must have went through a lot. Can you imagine telling the N-word Miko that one day she would have audience from all corners of the world?

Funnily enough the GTA 'nigga' clip was what helped slingshot her into higher relevancy

This is the only example I can think of where someone saying the word nigger helped their online career

 

[Tor Lugosi]

proving objectively that saying 'nigga' is based and the vast majority of the world doesn't actually care about it

 

[Renmai]

This is off topic a bit, but I'm curious what people currently think of Coco/Kson.

I could be wrong, but it seems she's largely drifted out of most conversations a month or two after she left hololive. Are people here still watching her as frequently as before? Has her content changed too much for some fans?

I respect Coco for what she did behind the scenes to motivate and inspire the other Holo talents to expand their horizons. But her meme reviews and other content eventually got a bit stale. I ended up mostly watched for the guests. She stood out back then cus she was the scandalous wild English-speaking member of Hololive but with the two HoloEN generations and NijiEN.. ehh It's better to go out on a high note taking a large fanbase with her and getting a larger cut of the $$ as an indie. Cus she doesn't stand out to me anymore.

 

[gregeoryL]

In other news, Mumei and Bae have been arm wrestling for literally 20 minutes now.

Not multiple matches. The same match. For 20 minutes.