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I'm surprised Pomu earned $40,000 more than Selen.
It's bizarre that Pomu held onto her non-vtubing job for so long if she was earning superchat numbers like this.

I can't believe Finana earned less than Millie. Wtf?!

She may have been concerned about medical expenses, and based on what she's said she also seems like the person who does have trouble not working. It also makes some sense for her to have stuck around just to see how stable her SC numbers would be. Turns out that they've been pretty stable.

And yeah, Finana and Millie tend to underperform and overperform most people's SC expectations, respectively.
 
I don't consider the list credible because there's no sources on it. In particular IRyS has been operating since at least 2011 and claims her recording was from "quite a long while ago". If the list is accurate she was 16 at the time, which doesn't make sense.
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On the other hand, the rratposter expects us to believe an 8 year old drew this, if Suisei's supposed to be underage now. Yeah, right.
Suisei's age is mostly correct because there is an old tweet where her friend said she's in third year of high school in 2015 (Edit: according to poster below, she would be graduate in March, a month later from the time of tweet). But I won't believe the rest of the list because it's just a compilation of the conflicting info floating around. I can only say that Suisei's and Coco's is (most likely) correct.
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I'm not sure if Suisei ever went to college/uni. She said she wasn't exactly well behaved in school and questions if university really does look like the background of a game she was playing.
I have a feeling you refer to her "bad behavior" in school based on the clip of her saying she skipped school often and that she have several fights with teachers due to her skirt length, which is not true. That stream was just her and Miko read a browser-generated stuff and run with it for shit and giggles.

I don't know if she go to college or not. Suisei is one of the best as Op Sec among Hololive, and she almost never share her real info like her age or place of birth. She's a content creator since 2014, but it isn't like she can't work on that while attend a university. With how she said she works several odd jobs to fund her own career though, I have a feeling she might drop the college entirely to pursue idol career.


Main take away from the clip is that before Suisei start her Vtuber career in 2018, she have taken multiple audition with idol agency. If she finish high school in 2016, that's two year gap where she do a lot of other things. Her parents could still pushed her into a college I guess, but I'm more inclined to believe that she never go to one in the first place.
 
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1. Sonic is a vtuber?
Yes, but he doesn't stream. More like an official Virtual Mascot for Sega streams/events.

EDIT:https://panora.tokyo/archives/40684

Suisei/Ghost wins the Vtuber Sonic Festival's Virtual Grammy award (for Corporate Vtubers Division)
But most importantly, Weather Hackers got into the top 25 nominees.
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Other winners:
CocoTsuki Project for Indie (they used to be under upd8 until the company folded)

Lily Kanon for VR Division (basically VR performances)

Manayuki for VTV Division (VTV is the music program by the sponsor/creator of the whole event)
 
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Well looks like I got up in time, just for the last hour bit of the 3D Live, I'm going to assume they are also preforming their new song which will be nice to see. Starting in about 5 mins ish. We also got a Towa 3D Live straight after as well, back to back. Going to be a good morning.
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Ooo, we got a little stage this time round, I dig it.
 
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Suisei's age is mostly correct because there is an old tweet where her friend said she's in third year of high school in 2015. But I won't believe the rest of the list because it's just a compilation of the conflicting info floating around. I can only say that Suisei's and Coco's is (most likely) correct.

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Main take away from the clip is that before Suisei start her Vtuber career in 2018, she have taken multiple audition with idol agency. If she finish high school in 2016, that's two year gap where she do a lot of other things. Her parents could still pushed her into a college I guess, but I'm more inclined to believe that she never go to one in the first place.
Wikipedia says that Japanese high school is three years, with the term ending in March. That means she didn't graduate high school in 2016, but in March 2015. College entrance exams appear to be in January. In short, in Feb 2015 she's already finished her SAT-equivalent. This explains why she isn't paying attention at school. The birth date in the list suggests she was 17 when she graduated, which means she entered school a year early somehow, which is why I doubt it.

We can probably rule out a 4 year undergrad degree, as that would span until March 2019.

My hypothesis is that she did a 3 year course of some sort, ending March 2018 (her debut). Following which she promptly ran out of money and began working part-time jobs. As opposed to struggling for 3 years before deciding to debut.

Any idol auditions probably took place before she graduated high school, or at latest immediately after. I somehow doubt they want a 19 or 20 year old, in an industry that grabs under-18s on the regular.
 
Pretty sure no one here is saying that Niji has worse talents, nor are they saying that they don't deserve their sucess (unless they are blatant trolls or just hate Niji flat out for some reason)

I personally have just been calling out the absolute hypocrisy of NijiEN fans here of the talents recent "successes" when it's just been a rehash of things other people have already done or are already common sense

Male Wave a success? Wow, it's not like people were clamoring for Male talents since the start in a market dominated by Females.
Niji sure showed the world that Male talents have a place in Vtubing by *reads notes* totally not doing something that made them successful in Japan.

Smol Models and giving them away for free? Only Selen and her LA CREATIVIDAD could have thought of that. No one else could and I will cut you if you even imply other Vtubers have commissioned 3D models and given them to VR Chat for use free of charge

It's because you're hard-wired to turn everything I say into an argument or perceive everything I say as a dig at others, and then blame me for some reason.

Me: Wow I'm really proud of the NijiEN girls for getting to where they are over the last 7 months!
You: They met expectations. Nothing more. They have huge investment and sponsorships. Continue to watch your tubers and not feel anything because nothing is earned.

Me: Selen is giving away the models and music she commissioned away for public use so people can make games. That's awesome!
You: Ame ALSO did that. Selen isn't special. Why bring it up?

I've made no mention of other companies when I talked about being happy for NijiEN, and I made no mention of Ame when I talked about Selen. You did. People need only scroll back to see that.

I think Scuttle has figured out how to make people here sperg out even more than Kiara does.
It's literally as simple as saying something nice about Nijisanji. I've cracked the system. The comment that kick-started this Trainwreck was 'I'm proud of what they've accomplished despite having no foothold in the EN market 7 months ago' and that was apparently some wildly controversial statement.

Hope people don't mention how fun it is when Holos jump into each others' streams uninvited because that's just a tried-and-true Niji thing. Hope people don't celebrate the successes of HolostarsEN, because Niji already proved that there's a market for them and therefore everything else is moot. It's a load of nonsense. Of COURSE people should enjoy those things all the same.
 
in slightly less gay news, the MiKorone 24 hour stream is finally finished. I checked in with it throughout the day and it was always entertaining. I was surprised they kept a consistent 25k viewers throughout the whole thing, usually long streams have highs and lows. The first half is already at 2.1 million views.
 
It's because you're hard-wired to turn everything I say into an argument or perceive everything I say as a dig at others, and then blame me for some reason.

Me: Wow I'm really proud of the NijiEN girls for getting to where they are over the last 7 months!
You: They met expectations. Nothing more. They have huge investment and sponsorships. Continue to watch your tubers and not feel anything because nothing is earned.

Me: Selen is giving away the models and music she commissioned away for public use so people can make games. That's awesome!
You: Ame ALSO did that. Selen isn't special. Why bring it up?

I've made no mention of other companies when I talked about being happy for NijiEN, and I made no mention of Ame when I talked about Selen. You did. People need only scroll back to see that.


It's literally as simple as saying something nice about Nijisanji. I've cracked the system. The comment that kick-started this Trainwreck was 'I'm proud of what they've accomplished despite having no foothold in the EN market 7 months ago' and that was apparently some wildly controversial statement.

Hope people don't mention how fun it is when Holos jump into each others' streams uninvited because that's just a tried-and-true Niji thing. Hope people don't celebrate the successes of HolostarsEN, because Niji already proved that there's a market for them and therefore everything else is moot. It's a load of nonsense. Of COURSE people should enjoy those things all the same.
Don't take it so personally man, people are just still recovering from the fact that Hana doesn't bring you on stream anymore.
 
Towa anniversary have a ton of guest and special effect. Wonder how much she spent out of her pocket. Also, the most surprise so far is probably having AZKi as a guest.
Seeing Okayu, Mio and Pekora fuck with Towa doing the marine idol step during the song nearly completely threw her off. That was pretty funny, I honestly thought Towa just forgot what to do, poor Towa.

Found a clip of it of Towa calling them out at the end. Look forward to the translated versions popping up afterwards.
 
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Towa anniversary have a ton of guest and special effect. Wonder how much she spent out of her pocket. Also, the most surprise so far is probably having AZKi as a guest.
Of course, the cockroaches come out when Fubuki makes an appearence.

EDIT: Okay, that's fucking weird. It stopped immediately after FBK left.
That's some serious autism to only spam during the 5-10 minutes she was on screen.
 
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in slightly less gay news, the MiKorone 24 hour stream is finally finished. I checked in with it throughout the day and it was always entertaining. I was surprised they kept a consistent 25k viewers throughout the whole thing, usually long streams have highs and lows. The first half is already at 2.1 million views.
Take the ccv with grain of salt since YT fuck something up. Pekora who usually get 30k with anything is struggling to get 20k and Kuzuha who usually get 30k-50k on tournament didn't break 15k on his last tournament stream.
 
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That last song "FACT" is actually a banger, that is 100% going on the favs playlist. All in all, very nice live indeed, it really must have cost a fair bit with all the stage, effects and MV's. Guest list was pretty big too for a 1 hour live. Now we have the filled in portraits from thumbnail as well.
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Perfect she just put it on YouTube now, honestly the MV is really fucking good as well.
 
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I've watched clips from the Vtubers and my God are they cringe. Imagine anime cringe girls tuned up to 300%.

How can people watch this shit?
I've seen hundreds of streams and hasn't found the answer yet, maybe a thousand or two more will bring me closer to enlightenment.

since people are posting dumb rrats anyway. Ayame is JonTron, this explains everything.
Now that's a rrat I can get behind. 🐀
 
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Tune into Calli's stream and she has arrived at the Cat zone which is nearing the halfway mark of the Ghost Babe DLC. Progress!
 
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