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sashimi said:
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I've always felt that the very best memes are the ones you don't even have to do anything to make, just capture.
/vt/ and I seem to agree for a change
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Eddie IX said:

Calli/Gura and La+/Iroha English lesson starting soon, should be fun!
Delayed half an hour and still starting late... chat is actually funny for a change, full of "YES MY DAD", "YES MY SHARK", and even caught one or two "YES MY DELAY".
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That was a really hilarious stream. Highlights include bullying Gura, the Earth and Ass mixup (somehow mistook it for Iroha, dummy me), bussin, loli talk with Calli, and the part about Laplus liking ass (cultured Laplus). There were also a bunch of other smaller but still hilarious parts

Gura is like Bae, chaos follows her no matter what. Gura and Calli are a duo that brings an insane amount of chaotic energy, it's amazing
 
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Sithis said:
The Calli antis really populated after the lean incident, they hate everything she's involved with even more than the orange chicken woman these days. Plus this is a cross region collab so you have the JP purists screeching because their idols are being tainted by filthy English speakers, one of whom can't even read elven moonspeak reliably.
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Western JP purists are very rare specimens, if you want real Jp reactions you go to JP boards but since i dont know moonrunes i will never know what they really think about these collabs.

Anyways Ame is back & online
 
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Rezza said:
And Calli invites them to drink, she really loves the alcohol, didn't she...
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Speaking of, I found a new schizo copy/pasta on /vt/ earlier today. Spoilered for size.
>talks about alcohol nonstop to the point where it's one of the only things she sounds genuinely interested in
>applied to hololive as a joke, knowing nothing about vtubers or streaming and only because her friend Milkyqueen was applying too and showed her it, taking her spot in the process
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ?t=2397
>used to heavily bait for superchats in her early days, interrupting collabs to thank red scs "BIG UPS AKASUPA"
>says hololive only takes up 5% of her actual time
https://youtu.be/lBkuqt-xigY
>continuously trying to change hololive by attempting collabs with and mentioning anime youtubers and random men
>always late to collabs and never sets up properly
>according to kiara has overslept multiple collabs, causing them to be cancelled or rescheduled
>barely talked during 2 hour clubhouse 51 collab with Kiara, to the point where Kiara had to use the weather deck to get her to talk at all
>made nothing but grunts and 1-3 word replies during shadowverse collab with kiara
>straight up said "no" when kiara asked if she had seen her new MV
https://youtu.be/nvZcIGnCSrs?t=12222
>lied to kiaras face about loving her king cover (which was a rickroll joke) saying she "listened to it all the time"
>didn't properly setup for lethal league with ina, played and talked with fans while ina sat and watched
>acted like a bitch once the punishments game for puyo puyo tetris came up, refused to do any of them
>spoils outfits on twitter for first smol collab, does nothing for the jeopardy rounds and slams her keyboard for it
>blabs about alcohol before even introducing herself during a collab with Reine, an Indonesian who isn't allowed to drink
https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=342
https://youtu.be/VX1hxP-Tmiw?t=394
>possibly corrupting irys as she mentioned they've met a few times to drink tea
>makes myth wait almost half an hour in the ender dragon fight collab because she got lost looking for wood because she didn't prepare, then makes them lose diamond armor because she jumped into the void in the end
https://youtu.be/BwL9-tqLF3I?t=4641
>didn't call in for Ame's first birthday, called in at the very last minute for her second birthday sounding drunk with a shitty rap
https://youtu.be/tMwKQniur0k
>constantly talks to her collab partners like they're mentally challenged children
>simps over Rikka on and off stream nonstop, they collab on Super Bunny Man and Mori can barely hold a convo in Japanese, forcing Rikka to use his terrible English
>completely ruins highly anticipated first EN meme review with Coco by being nothing but her "dorky rapper" character instead of making any good conversation or jokes, to the point where Coco asks "are you okay? you're acting like a crackhead" and "is she always like this?" to 75k viewers
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=2435
https://youtu.be/YTTnA4MQkg0?t=1121
>woke gura up early on a day she planned to stream, wastes everyones time because she only then learned the game they were gonna play is local only, makes them switch to ANOTHER local only game, didn't install the final proper game between the time elapsed switching previous games, then makes sleepy Gura wait another half hour only for their gameplay to be fucked by seconds long delay, then finally settling on Phasmophobia, disables comments afterwards
https://youtu.be/sbo8zS8otzQ
>caused 6 month anniversary Don't Starve myth collab to be delayed by 30 mins
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1370508896150818817
>fell asleep on stream during very first myth Minecraft collab
https://youtu.be/NS3_sNTwIRw?t=10427
>told Gura during a collab that someone said her "booty stank" while working at a restaurant
https://youtu.be/WhM27pQZ_2E
The Trash Taste drama gets its own section, as it is the longest running problem with Mori and the sole reason this post exists

>Mori collabs with Trash Taste
https://youtu.be/tIU0xG-lXkQ
https://youtu.be/h5QspNrKphM
>guy from TT, Connor, says on Ironmouse's stream that people in hololive are popular not because of their talent but because of the brand
https://files.catbox.moe/91mnvk.MP4
>time passes, Mori mentions TT a significant amount the last few months
>a longtime member in Moris member stream says she shouldn't associate with them
https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults her members and lies that Connor personally apologised to every holoEN member
https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>"we speak to each other quite a bit, um, as friends", laughing nervously after
>someone asks Kiara about this, Kiara says she isn't in contact with anyone from Trash Taste
https://streamable.com/5a8uq2
>Mori then donates 50 subs to Connor on her new Twitch account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she won't read superchats anymore without management reading them first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>deadbeats in her comment section are upset about all of this
>everyone moves on
>days later she suddenly replies to and compliments a 6 day old Twitter post from a dedicated anti account of an MSpaint edit of her getting fucked by Connor, while her fans watch crying, insinuating her fans are cucks
http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>Redditors notice this and post it to the hololive subreddit
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
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>she gets downvoted and they shame her for her actions
>someone asks why she did it, she admits she's drunk
https://files.catbox.moe/z2z0mm.jpeg
>deletes everything, apologises on twitter, announces break but then says she's high on lean on her corporate, public twitter account, and then tries to damage control by saying she didn't know what it meant
https://web.archive.org/web/2022012...r.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>later, begins collabing with holo members again but it's painfully clear she isn't interested and is faking her enthusiasm, the entire terraria stream is an example
https://youtu.be/8ZiNmfUCEt4
>goes out of her way to put "with my FRIENDS" on her Terraria collab, and again "ft FRIENDS" in the title of Surgeon Simulator collab, when she's never done so
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>still won't stop mentioning TT
https://youtu.be/Zm_Q5yLdgas
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>Set up a collaboration with Omocat and Kiara to do a fashion review
>Didn't do any of the prep work for it and left all the picture hunting for Kiara
There's lots of evidence that indicates she's incredibly self-serving and puts off any group work until the last minute.
>Only lyricist in Myth
>Group decides to make an original song for Halloween, separate from Cover support
>She didn't step forward to offer to write lyrics until way into development and only because nobody had stepped forward to do it
>Kanauru was forced to rush out a full music video in less than a week.
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1454996768882446339
>First CHAD podcast, offers a Terraria collaboration with the members of the CHAD cast
>After the other two agree, immediately expands the operation to include people outside of Hololive they've never spoken to before without even discussing it with them
When you look back on the Holiday with Kiara you can also see hints of pushing her selfishness onto other people too. She made Kiara go into an Onsen naked and go Skiing (which nearly lead to an accident), both are things that Kiara was vocally uncomfortable about doing and likely forced onto her.

The reason people are beginning to hate Mori is because her behavior the last few months have changed the context of her past actions. All the things she did in the past that could be seen as awkwardness and a result of overworking are now being seen as selfishness and alcoholic behavior, she seems mostly uninterested in genuinely improving her flaws or working towards integrating herself with the company anymore than she has to.
The minute she faced serious backlash she began to make moves to transitioning to her roommate account and she constantly undermines Cover by framing all the things Japanese law and policy restricts her from doing as being Cover's fault. Even before learning the full details about Rushia, she tweeted a heated statement that can only be indicting of Cover.
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1496731528994250753
She still hasn't learned how to be conversational after so many years of living in Japan which says everything about her lack of commitment to anything outside of her sphere of interest. She expects everyone to meet her on her own terms.

I think the kids nowadays would describe her as a toxic individual.
 
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Airless said:
Ame confirmed afraid of her teamates. ouch
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She has good judgement about the teamates.

As for the above Schizo /vt/ post about Calli. A lot of it is either trivial or overblown shit by nitpickers, but some of it does have weight - especially the things that count. for instance Kiara had a last minute Guerilla members stream to sort out the nominees for the Omocat contest. She was fairly flustered about it.

I wouldn't go so far as to call her lazy, she seems to always have a lot on her plate but she does prioritizes personal projects over anything work related. It's strange, it always seems like she set herself up to be some sort of leader (whether that was her or management it's up in the air,) but it's clear it's Ame and Kiara. If she stepped back, said "Yeah, I like doing this but I have other things going on." and took on a more support role that would go a long way. I think her recent return to Dice Demoning is her roundabout way of doing that.
 
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Sevatonius said:
She's has good judgement.

As for the above Schizo /vt/ post about Calli. A lot of it is either trivial or overblown shit by nitpickers, but some of it does have weight - especially the things that count. for instance Kiara had a last minute Guerilla members stream to sort out the nominees for the omocat contest. She was fairly flustered about it.

I wouldn't go so far as to call her lazy, she seems to always have a lot on her plate, and prioritizes personal projects over anything work related. It's strange, it always seems like she set herself up to be some sort of leader (whether that was her or management it's up in the air,) but it's clear it's Ame and Kiara. If she stepped back, said "Yeah, I like doing this but I have other things going on." and took on a more support role that would go a long way. I think her recent return to Dice Demoning is her roundabout way doing that.
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So this kinda feeds into what she mentioned earlier about having ADHD. Psychologists nowadays are realizing that calling it an attention deficiency disorder was a misnomer, and it's much more accurate to call it "Executive Function Disorder". ADHD people can and do pay attention to stuff, but a lot of times it's things that already interest us, or something we have a personal investment in. One of the key traits you'll see is shit time management skills, and typically accepting way too many tasks jobs because you think you can handle more stuff cause you're shit at managing your time. What you describe sounds like a classic symptom that many ADHD people experience.
 
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reinigen said:
So this kinda feeds into what she mentioned earlier about having ADHD. Psychologists nowadays are realizing that calling it an attention deficiency disorder was a misnomer, and it's much more accurate to call it "Executive Function Disorder". ADHD people can and do pay attention to stuff, but a lot of times it's things that already interest us, or something we have a personal investment in. One of the key traits you'll see is shit time management skills, and typically accepting way too many tasks jobs because you think you can handle more stuff cause you're shit at managing your time. What you describe sounds like a classic symptom that many ADHD people experience.
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Shit, this sounds just like me I'm beginning to think maybe I need to go to the doctor now
 
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Rezza said:
Shit, this sounds just like me I'm beginning to think maybe I need to go to the doctor now
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Here's another one for you that really hit home for me recently. What's your sleep schedule like? Do you stay up super late without trying, and sleep half the morning? Trying to maintain a normal person schedule hard as fuck? That's a thing people are talking about recently called "Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome". They're finding a 75%+ correlation between this and ADHD as well.

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reinigen said:
So this kinda feeds into what she mentioned earlier about having ADHD. Psychologists nowadays are realizing that calling it an attention deficiency disorder was a misnomer, and it's much more accurate to call it "Executive Function Disorder". ADHD people can and do pay attention to stuff, but a lot of times it's things that already interest us, or something we have a personal investment in. One of the key traits you'll see is shit time management skills, and typically accepting way too many tasks jobs because you think you can handle more stuff cause you're shit at managing your time. What you describe sounds like a classic symptom that many ADHD people experience.
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"we" nice.
And yeah in retrospect it makes sense Calli has ADHD. People talked about it less than Mumei because Mumei acted more in the "conventional knowledge of ADHD" way. While Calli, well didn't.
reinigen said:
Here's another one for you that really hit home for me recently. What's your sleep schedule like? Do you stay up super late without trying, and sleep half the morning? Trying to maintain a normal person schedule hard as fuck? That's a thing people are talking about recently called "Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome". They're finding a 75%+ correlation between this and ADHD as well.

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Wow, thanks. Now I actually know why I have trouble sleeping at reasonable times.
 
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