General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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Ollie wished Fulgur a happy birthday and was promptly dogpiled by Hololive fans telling her off and 'advising' that she keeps her conversations with him private from now on, and implying that her reputation is on the line if she keeps it up.

She has since deleted the tweet.

All that's left is the wreckage of a discussion.

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Fulgur started the shit talk, I wonder who’s the real snitched among them but when a resident Holo ultra naive and friendly Ollie is folding then I can see how much fudge up Fulgur is. He thinks he elite but reality is that he’s not even Robin for Vox as Batman.
Vox is something if not Teflon huh? Can you send stuff to Niji EN? Maybe some elk meat or something.

Ollie having to delete tweets is super lame
I wonder if Ollie is also mega friendly and DM people in private when taking off her Vtuber persona. Cuz Fulgur and the Niji trash talkers just get blue balls from potential zombie exposure.
 
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At least here in Burgerland almost everywhere you turn--television, social media, even sports--is full of politics, personal feuds, and jackassery. So the holo/niji vision of vtubers, where there's no politics, everyone pretty much gets along, and you can watch the talents grow (see, e.g., the thread's favorite Chicken) can be really appealing.

Except for the fact even in vtubing you have enough people, they start sperging out and tribalfagging, it might not be country v country, party v party or even team v team. Just look at the Niji vs Holo stuff going on in this thread. Sure a lot of it is just lighthearted trolling and not as bad as /vt/ but it's still there.
 
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The Water Bowl now is going to have a gremlin voice like Gura and Laplus, isn't she? Honestly can't imagine an Indonesian speaking with voice like that
 
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The Water Bowl now is going to have a gremlin voice like Gura and Laplus, isn't she? Honestly can't imagine an Indonesian speaking with voice like that

e: a few weeks ago, Derem Kado of NIjiID had a "makeover" of sorts; because she's chuunibyo, her true-power is always kept in check wrapped up in Nomura style bandages ("Kado" is indonesian for Gift). When the bandages come off, her persona becomes more energetic and outgoing. I feel it's a good example too:

 
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Fulgur started the shit talk, I wonder who’s the real snitched among them but when a resident Holo ultra naive and friendly Ollie is folding then I can see how much fudge up Fulgur is. He thinks he elite but reality is that he’s not even Robin for Vox as Batman.

I really want to sidestep time being a flat circle and dragging up this discussion again.

But I think you have to be clinically insane to expect the entire human population to always be conscious of what they're saying just in case they are found guilty of Thought Crimes.

No one here maintains professionalism out of work hours or we wouldn't be here calling people troons and chinks. NijiEN don't do it. HoloEN probably don't do it. We know thanks to Rushia that there's people in HoloJP and definitely NijiJP that don't do it.

The fact that both parties caved and deleted the tweets mean that both companies still thought the leak is a sensitive issue. That's something worthy to think about, honestly
It doesn't mean that at all.

Firstly, Fulgur did not reply to her. The second deleted comment was someone telling her that her reputation may be questioned if she doesn't delete the tweet. The only notable person who deleted the tweet was Ollie after being harassed by her own fans.

Much like everyone else involved, I am sure Ollie is aware of the Discord leak and has decided she doesn't care: much like Kiara and Calli have shown through words and actions. Even if she wasn't aware and had her eyes opened by the replies, she would have probably unfollowed him and yet she hasn't.

She has deleted the tweet for one of two reasons:

1) The pressure from Hololive fans has forced her into deleting it.

2) She has consciously deleted the tweet because, as long as the tweet remains up, the replies linking to the leak from her post will be visible at the top of his birthday tweet, and that makes her look bad and will probably make her feel bad too.

Neither of these require the stance of the companies to be a factor at all. In fact, it's probably in both companies' best interests that concernfags learn to shut the fuck up about it and let things go so people like Ollie don't have to feel like they'll wake up in the middle of a scandal just for wishing someone a happy birthday.

You simply have to accept that this is an aspect of the western Holo community — mostly from the people of Reddit — as they have Deified random girls LARPing as anime characters to be 'above' forgiving mere mortals (or cyborgs, I guess). Ironic, given that those same people will go to bat agains the evil Japanese idol culture for doing the exact same thing.
 
Fulgur has hurt the feelings of the Chinese Hololive people and must apologize!!!
No apology is good enough for the Chinese Hololive fans, and they will continue to harass until they go!

...Unless you're a part of Hololive, like Matsuri who publicly spoke ill of Haachama on Twitter, in that case an apology is てぇてぇ and forgotten about.
 
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