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Rratcatcher said:
They already will do that with the two being included for the event and with them being in HoloGra, who cares about some swimsuits at that point.
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i think its the opposite,like "now we include EN,but only 2 because of reason,japan travel blablabla,so we actually want to include EN too you know".
 
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longrattz said:
i think its the opposite,like "now we include EN,but only 2 because of reason,japan travel blablabla,so we actually want to include EN too you know".
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You think they'd pull the Japan travel card to justify Gura and Ina being there and not the others, When Gura and Ina are very openly not in Japan, and one of the EN1 members not there IS in Japan?

Don't get me wrong I don't think anyone in good faith actually cares about the other girls not having their 3d models puppeted to someone else's dancing and recordings of their songs. But the line of thinking you're presented as covers excuse here is........ really REALLY bad.
Excited Eraser said:
It does make me wonder why something like this was not possible for Kiara's birthday.
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Probably at least in part because Kiara wanted to actually perform. These random guest appearances from Umisea definitely aren't Gura and Ina actually dancing and performing.
 
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Burnt Fish said:
Probably at least in part because Kiara wanted to actually perform. These random guest appearances from Umisea definitely aren't Gura and Ina actually dancing and performing.
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Is that confirmed? I'm not quite sure how else they would do it but I would like to know for sure this isn't a rrat.
 
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Saint Jenma, Kiara & the Sacred Egg by @Timinybillybob.jpg

I grabbed this from somewhere during our little bout of 'unscheduled downtime', and I don't think it was ever posted, so here it is

'I will live to keep on fighting till the dawn' by @Timinybillybob.jpg

This artist definitely likes Kiara on the epic side of things

Lady Takanashi Kiara of Kilnaish & Glencoe by @Timinybillybob.jpg

Fancy birb
 
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Excited Eraser said:
I know, she went to studio Ame. I'm saying that now we know full 3D is possible without going to Japan they could have told Kiara to save her money.
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Oh I misread. It's very likely that Burnt Fish is right. They are both way too fluid with the others and neither of them indicated they have studios to perform aside from Ame's.
 
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Excited Eraser said:
Is that confirmed? I'm not quite sure how else they would do it but I would like to know for sure this isn't a rrat.
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If it weren't the case much of the Kiara concert runaround doesn't make sense. If she could record something from home and get it made into passable 3d like this, she wouldn't have explored options of using other studios in the first place. And she certainly wouldn't have settled for Ame's setup (Which I don't say that to shit talk, Ame's setup is impressive but she's still learning and there's definitely some gaps in the quality it can provide from even things Kiara has said it wasn't picking up her tracking as well as she would have liked)

There's not direct confirmation one way or the other but to me them having a stand in performing for them is the only explanation that actually works with everything else we know about the girls trying to do their own 3d projects from outside of Japan. Maybe if they had gone to Ame's again they could have sent in recordings for the performance themselves but at the same time these umisea cameos for concerts look better quality wise than Kiara's dancing for her concert which had some of that homebrew 3d scuff remaining.
 
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Burnt Fish said:
If it weren't the case much of the Kiara concert runaround doesn't make sense. If she could record something from home and get it made into passable 3d like this, she wouldn't have explored options of using other studios in the first place. And she certainly wouldn't have settled for Ame's setup (Which I don't say that to shit talk, Ame's setup is impressive but she's still learning and there's definitely some gaps in the quality it can provide from even things Kiara has said it wasn't picking up her tracking as well as she would have liked)

There's not direct confirmation one way or the other but to me them having a stand in performing for them is the only explanation that actually works with everything else we know about the girls trying to do their own 3d projects from outside of Japan. Maybe if they had gone to Ame's again they could have sent in recordings for the performance themselves but at the same time these umisea cameos for concerts look better quality wise than Kiara's dancing for her concert which had some of that homebrew 3d scuff remaining.
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Good points, you've convinced me. I guess I was a little too 🌈

I do resent Cover for pushing this Umisea crap though. My rrat is that Gura doesn't give a shit about it either.
 
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Excited Eraser said:
Is that confirmed? I'm not quite sure how else they would do it but I would like to know for sure this isn't a rrat.
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There's no way Ina and Gura are in Japan and there's no way they've synced a choreographed song like this in Ame's cave.

I'd be interested to know why exactly HoloEN seem to be struggling super hard getting to Japan to do 3D stuff. Some unknown dancer has made better use of Gura, Ina and Ame's model than Gura, Ina and Ame have and that's just really weird to me.
 
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Excited Eraser said:
Is that confirmed? I'm not quite sure how else they would do it but I would like to know for sure this isn't a rrat.
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Just a rrat.

All them made clear that they were the one dancing for Holofes, and even their performance match their past stories and experiences (eg. Kiara/Moona good at dancing, Ina barely moving, etc..).

For Gura's 3D live it seems there were some mixed opinions, some believed that Kanauru did the mocap for all of them, some believed that it was mixed (Gura did her own mocap, while the rest done by Kanauru).

You can tell in Gura's conversation with Shion in her concert, that there were some weird pauses between lines which might indicate that they were recorded separately.

The only 3D appearance confirmed to have others performing in their stead was Myth backup dancers in Calli's concert.

Scuttle said:
There's no way Ina and Gura are in Japan and there's no way they've synced a choreographed song like this in Ame's cave.
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Sevatonius said:
Oh I misread. It's very likely that Burnt Fish is right. They are both way too fluid with the others and neither of them indicated they have studios to perform aside from Ame's.
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What about the studio they used for Holofes?
Burnt Fish said:
If it weren't the case much of the Kiara concert runaround doesn't make sense. If she could record something from home and get it made into passable 3d like this, she wouldn't have explored options of using other studios in the first place. And she certainly wouldn't have settled for Ame's setup (Which I don't say that to shit talk, Ame's setup is impressive but she's still learning and there's definitely some gaps in the quality it can provide from even things Kiara has said it wasn't picking up her tracking as well as she would have liked)
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The main difference between Kiara and Gura/Ina was that the all studios in EU were booked and the one that was available was too expensive. That might not be the case for Gura/Ina, they might have studios available for recording. For Umisea, since it was Cover's project they might even foot the bill themselves.

Edit: Here is Towa talking about her experience recording the 3D live with Moona and Risu. So group songs recording in 3D is definitely possible as long as you have access to a studio.
 
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Fractionally, it's the JP side that has to deal with the heaviest of fallout when it comes to a girl speaking to a penis-haver. Would the nousagi still keep that high ccv if their oshi collabed with Rio for example. I'm so glad none of the ID girls has to front that since they all collab away out the gate, even their biggest earner Kobo.
 
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Burnt Fish said:
You think they'd pull the Japan travel card to justify Gura and Ina being there and not the others, When Gura and Ina are very openly not in Japan, and one of the EN1 members not there IS in Japan?

Don't get me wrong I don't think anyone in good faith actually cares about the other girls not having their 3d models puppeted to someone else's dancing and recordings of their songs. But the line of thinking you're presented as covers excuse here is........ really REALLY bad.

Probably at least in part because Kiara wanted to actually perform. These random guest appearances from Umisea definitely aren't Gura and Ina actually dancing and performing.
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i'm not saying gura and ina is there,what i'm trying to say is that gura and ina performance is basically just showing that its not "holo jp only",no,EN and ID included too if possible in the future,its just so happen that gura and ina is the one who recorded for the performance,thats it,because one of the classic shit that holo anti pull to create drama is "cover discriminate this X brance/member" or something like that.
 
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