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thhrang said:
Yes, read this post.

Calling it "jokes" is affording him good-faith that he very much has demonstrated he doesn't deserve. He watched a clip of Filian and Pippa making some milquetoast jokes about St. Floyd and then stated they only say these things under the veil of anonymity and that their fans are all terrible people/4chan neckbeards. Then, later in the same video, he comments about how he wishes VTubers were boxers so that he could violently beat them up for making jokes he doesn't like without outright saying he wants to assault them.

Kenji is a brilliant example of black fragility. He expressed the desire to remove VTuber anonymity when they make jokes he doesn't like so that he could then literally, unironically violently assault White women for making slightly off-color jokes about black people, but then a year later goes on to cry about being scared of a woman '''doxing''' him. This clip goes over it all pretty well at the 9:36 timestamp.

Edit: I also just want to note here that it is pretty funny the fag @Merryweatherey is apparently friends with Kenji, because Merry was trying to associate with/be friends with Pippa at one point, and like I just established, Pippa is one of the girls Kenji essentially threatened to physically assault for making edgy jokes. Yeah... I don't really like Merry all that much.
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It's always so interesting when niggers or half-niggers like Kenji always want to immediately resort to violence to stop any perceived sleight, in this case jokes about Saint George of Fentanyl, instead of handling it like a civilized person or even just ignoring it altogether. No surprise a faggot like him would be in support of destroying internet anonymity, he should know that street goes both ways, "I wanna punch nazis". You might find a "Nazi" that punches back.

Tor Lugosi said:
I don't see how you can disagree with Pippa there, she's basically saying you reap what you sow. If you try to sell the GFE thing then you're gonna get a GFE audience.
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She's correct, that's why I can't really feel super bad for girls like Yuko, even though I enjoyed more of her stuff as Rye. She cultivated an audience of coomers and they ditched as soon as she wanted to stop doing that content. If you don't want a GFE audience don't fucking do GFE.
 
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X-avier cuck said:
It's in the sense that in some cases, that experience is perceived as such rather than it actually being GFE.

The Kronii situation comes to mind.
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I remember the sad state of things when the more parasocial kronies were despairing not because they though Kronie was "flirting" with people like vesper but because she would laugh during their collabs. "She never laughs like that with us....."

I get the angle Pippa's speaking from but boy it's not that cut and dry in practice and viewers will project that shit onto streamers all on their own sometimes and the scenarios she lays out there really don't apply along gender lines. Even among the most GFE of vtubers there are certain other female vtubers that collabing with them would kill the "vibe" more than someone like Vesper ever could.
 
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6MillionCoofs said:
That the ynfortunate thing about English VTubing taking off now. Most aren’t like the OGs so don’t actually care about the idol aspect or even understand it.
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The only constant in life is change, though I'm sure that there are still some that have the same appeal. Wait, this might sound retarded, but are idols the same thing as GFE, just with singing and dancing?
 
Hazbinhator45 said:
The only constant in life is change, though I'm sure that there are still some that have the same appeal. Wait, this might sound retarded, but are idols the same thing as GFE, just with singing and dancing?
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Idols are more expected to be "seiso", or pure and virtuous if you're not a weeb. So more on maintaining a clean and dignified (no swears, no sex, no innuendo, no boyfriends, etc.) image than a girlfriend. As a rule, english fans tend to care less about seiso which is probably the only part they have going for them. Not to say every fan doesn't care but that's life.
 
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Spud said:
My friend you need to be discussing this with black racial scholars, or just see how a mixed kid gets treated in a majority black school. You will find the answer you seek.
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or just any group of blacks where they stack rank each other as "light skinned niggas" and "dark skinned nigggas" cause the super dark ones are seen as less attractive
 
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Burnt Fish said:
I remember the sad state of things when the more parasocial kronies were despairing not because they though Kronie was "flirting" with people like vesper but because she would laugh during their collabs. "She never laughs like that with us....."

I get the angle Pippa's speaking from but boy it's not that cut and dry in practice and viewers will project that shit onto streamers all on their own sometimes and the scenarios she lays out there really don't apply along gender lines. Even among the most GFE of vtubers there are certain other female vtubers that collabing with them would kill the "vibe" more than someone like Vesper ever could.
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From my time working in the VA/Webspace, I've noticed that many individuals tend to see only what they want to see in the people they're interested in. When their illusions are shattered, they often react with anger and hostility.

Just being apart of the culture is seen as an endorsement of those idol values and people have protruded that on members whether it fits or not ( Like Calli super early on and the aforementioned Kronii)
 
Howling Janny Dog said:
Is getting "nihongo jouzu"-ed some sort of meme for westerners?
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Under which rock do you live?

6MillionCoofs said:
I love how like one of the first responses is ‘why don’t you call it out Rev since you brought it up?’

And he never does.
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You are retarded. Rev's position is well known - he doesn't give a shit about lolicon because it doesn't hurt real children (which is the whole reason pedophilia is morally wrong). When he uses this "there are lolicons in Hololive you know" tactic, it's to point out that someone is abusing a power differential to be some sort of online bully, instead of actually having morals that are influencing their actions. Examples of the former include this waste of oxygen kenji.

If I could ask you to please drink as much drain cleaner as you possibly can before ever posting in this thread again, and when you come back, post about good shit, not Rev or kenji.
X-avier cuck said:
in some cases, that experience is perceived as such rather than it actually being GFE.

The Kronii situation comes to mind
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Forte said:
I'm sorry what? Kronii has never been GFE
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You directly quoted the part where he said it is not GFE but is perceived to be GFE, then went off on your own intellectually destitute rant on how she's not GFE. Nigger he knows.
VCR Rust II has been great yet again. I've been having Aki's stream on while I work each day, and catching up on clips, paying attention when I clock out. Can't believe it's already the last day.

I don't know if it's my Youtube recommendations or the popularity has changed, but I'm not seeing as many translated clips this time. Sucks for the English language one-tricks who are missing out if it's the latter, but on the other hand they literally can't do something babies do so fuck 'em.
 
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Speaking of Nihongo Jouzo: Is someone membered to Fuwamoco? /vt/ loses their mind because they are "abandoning" their english audience (they want to do more jp collabs during the golden week in order to reach the 1 million milestone before their anniversary) and Mococo started crying because someone said they will unsub if they are going to speak more jp. At the same time Nyfco goes down and everyone suspects falseflaggers left and right.
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Howling Janny Dog said:
Is getting "nihongo jouzu"-ed some sort of meme for westerners?
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It more or less is just westerners recognizing that the Japanese tend to over-state praise for foreigners speaking Japanese. "Nihongo Jouzu" will get thrown around even if you can only speak a couple sentences of Japanese and even if your pronunciation and inflection is entirely wrong. Similar to how I can think of dozens of times I've seen in holo with EN girls getting told "oh your Japanese is even better than Japanese people! when it's obviously not THAT good. So kind of like what's shown in the video up above, the point where your Japanese is actually good is when you stop getting "jouzu'd" it's when they start to just assume you are japanese (if a vtuber since they won't see what you look like to know you aren't Japanese) or that you live in Japan.

In some cases it's a joke among westerners because getting told it all the time for really basic and even broken japanese can come off a little patronizing or backhanded, but most people also just recognize that that feeling is unintended, and it's just Japanese people trying to be nice and happy to see foreigners learning the language.

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Speaking of Nihongo Jouzo: Is someone membered to Fuwamoco? /vt/ loses their mind because they are "abandoning" their english audience (they want to do more jp collabs during the golden week in order to reach the 1 million milestone before their anniversary) and Mococo started crying because someone said they will unsub if they are going to speak more jp. At the same time Nyfco goes down and everyone suspects falseflaggers left and right.
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even not seeing the members stream I can tell you with pretty high confidence it's 100% shitposting and trolls. People have been dooming that shit about the dogs for months now even before they moved to Japan pretty much ever since their first JP stream and collabs with JP members like Fubuki. People there meme and shitpost about IRyS for the same thing due to how much time she spends doing JP streams with Flare lately too.

Glanced over at holopirates and they don't have an archive of the stream up yet but say there will be an upload of it later today so I suppose it can be checked then.
 
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paule said:
Speaking of Nihongo Jouzo: Is someone membered to Fuwamoco? /vt/ loses their mind because they are "abandoning" their english audience (they want to do more jp collabs during the golden week in order to reach the 1 million milestone before their anniversary) and Mococo started crying because someone said they will unsub if they are going to speak more jp. At the same time Nyfco goes down and everyone suspects falseflaggers left and right.
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Ever since the Niji Selen implosion and how Nijisisters went from a slightly more obscure meme to common dramafag vernacular there has been upticks in /vt/ bait about FWMC since they are harmless and just been busy, there has been bait about them being lazy, them abandoning their audience, etc

Just yesterday there are allegations of Nyfco being taken down directly by COVER because of an alleged Nijisister plan to use fake dox to somehow get Nerissa fired, the only source i can find is a single /vt/ post so it should be a massive grain of salt, but the timing is interesting if Nyfco was actually legally taken down and not just left to rot or not paid off, iirc Nyfco was once also taken down and then it was put back up a couple weeks to a month later

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