General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Just look at the Nijisanji rookie contract they were trying to get for example on work ethics.

Understand most jobs are shitty like that starting out for at least a year+. They work you to the bone and if they really like you, maybe you get to move up a single rung on the long ladder.

People like the idea of japan but having to live and work there is ass donkey balls.
If you are earning in USD, GBP, EUR or some other "stable" (lol) currency, this is a GREAT time to be spending in JPY. There is not a chance in hell you could get me working in Nip managed company though, and fuck JP biz/banking regs and SOPs. There is a reason that startup culture is non-existent over there compared to the US and other countries.
 
You're a faggot and the country you are Idolizing would likely drive you to kill yourself if you lived there. Japans a fine place to visit but don't be a delusional weeb.
Hes saying its depressing his county and culture has fallen so hard. Especially if he's going by to NYC. The city has a very distinct rancid smell that other cities don't generally have. The roads are caked in a layer of rotting paper and plastic, the sewer vents let out right under residential areas, the apartment buildings all have garbage chutes covered in rotting food because they havent been cleaned in 100 years.

Saying its a city designed for tourism is cope, that would be the most difficult place to organize to such a cause. Meanwhile America's tourist locations is NYC. How does it put its best foot forward? Well it smells like shit, there con artists on every street even in the most touristy spots like time square and china town and right in front of museums selling tickets (that are free to enter, dont buy those). Large swaths of the city are turf wars, little italy has been reduced to about 2 blocks and china town takes up almost half the city. Harlem has high end apartments to meet demand and paid doormen now but that hasnt stopped random shootings happening right outside your window, hope you enjoy seeing dead bodies every other week assuming you're not one of em. Its embarassing seeing how pristine and unified their nation is compared to our shitholes where we don't even uphold the law because that's descrimination.
 
If you are earning in USD, GBP, EUR or some other "stable" (lol) currency, this is a GREAT time to be spending in JPY. There is not a chance in hell you could get me working in Nip managed company though, and fuck JP biz/banking regs and SOPs. There is a reason that startup culture is non-existent over there compared to the US and other countries.
The only thing better than this situation - living in Japan but making a foreign living - is being in the US military and stationed in Japan.

You're basically above the law and the nip still fears the long, star-spangled dong of Uncle Sam, and won't mess with his boys. And you're making western money.
 
In his case, though, it seems less like weeb idolization and more like right-wing idolization of Japan as this perfect example of a homogenous "ethnostate" that the West should model itself after. People who hold this view see Japan as an example of how being a prideful, homogenous nation is superior to becoming a "weak", multicultural one. Such people whitewash all the issues that come with being a insular, ultraconservative, pressure cooker of a society, and only look at the positives, such as how clean and efficient Japan is, and how they emphasize societal harmony.
wanting to live in a city with clean streets and a society who respects itself is right wing now?

protip: you don't need to be "rightwing" or whatever the fuck to understand lot of people don't want to live in a place like modern day paris or SF, let alone raise kids there...

Alot of right wingers are interested in anime so your probably both right, though I'm not sure if Japans flaws really come from being homogenous, since it seems like most asian countries have these problems.
so are a lot of troons, going by that logic troons are right wing now too... :stress:
 
wanting to live in a city with clean streets and a society who respects itself is right wing now?

protip: you don't need to be "rightwing" or whatever the fuck to understand lot of people don't want to live in a place like modern day paris or SF, let alone raise kids there...


so are a lot of troons, going by that logic troons are right wing now too... :stress:
I mean if beauty now falls on political lines, the very concept of taking care of yourself and presenting the best version of you possible is fascist then yes, living in a clean pristine location is radical right now.
 
Hes saying its depressing his county and culture has fallen so hard. Especially if he's going by to NYC. The city has a very distinct rancid smell that other cities don't generally have. The roads are caked in a layer of rotting paper and plastic, the sewer vents let out right under residential areas, the apartment buildings all have garbage chutes covered in rotting food because they havent been cleaned in 100 years.

Saying its a city designed for tourism is cope, that would be the most difficult place to organize to such a cause. Meanwhile America's tourist locations is NYC. How does it put its best foot forward? Well it smells like shit, there con artists on every street even in the most touristy spots like time square and china town and right in front of museums selling tickets (that are free to enter, dont buy those). Large swaths of the city are turf wars, little italy has been reduced to about 2 blocks and china town takes up almost half the city. Harlem has high end apartments to meet demand and paid doormen now but that hasnt stopped random shootings happening right outside your window, hope you enjoy seeing dead bodies every other week assuming you're not one of em. Its embarassing seeing how pristine and unified their nation is compared to our shitholes where we don't even uphold the law because that's descrimination.
Not saying the whole city Just saying that the average Tourist in Japan is only hitting up areas that are geared toward them Which even American cities have. There are parts of Chicago and Detroit that seem downright nice as long as you don't wander too far outside of the "intended viewing area" Go off the beaten path in Tokyo and you're still finding homeless camps swept aside and under the rug just like their statistics are by the government.
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And in general the culture aspect of it often only seems nice from a surface level perspective.
wanting to live in a city with clean streets and a society who respects itself is right wing now?

protip: you don't need to be "rightwing" or whatever the fuck to understand lot of people don't want to live in a place like modern day paris or SF, let alone raise kids there...
Yeah I totally wasn't getting at the same political spergery as the other post Just that if you actually understand what it is that makes some of that stuff seem that way on the surface in Japan that the sheen starts to wear thin. It's great how clean the cities are but they also come intrinsically connected to the strict social code of collective responsibility that carries with it a ton of shitty baggage of it's own not just the good parts of "oh the streets are clean"

The surface level respect shown to low level workers is nice to see but also only runs so deep before you realize that the judgement is still there it's just the more "Japanese" quiet judgement. Ah this person workes at a conbini as an adult? Guess they failed their family and couldn't get a proper job at a company and thus have lowered their family's social standing and brought dishonor to their parents. The Judgement it still there it's just done quietly and extended to even your family.

But that's why like I said at first, Japan's a cool place to visit when you don't have to actually participate in a lot of the societal bullshit they put on their own people. Similarly it can be a nice place to live if you have a job that let's you live outside of 90% of those societal expectations and especially the work culture. There's a reason why content creators seem to love living in Japan and it's in large part because they can sidestep a lot of the dumb shit Japan does by just not being part of it. And even then they will generally say they won't have kids there because they don't want to put their kids through the wringer that the culture enforces. Hell not even the Japanese seem too interested in raising kids there... For the average person though you don't get to pick and choose what parts to participate in like some a la carte menu. And the good comes with a ton of baggage.

To bring it around on topic because think about how many of the vtubers we watch are people that couldn't fit into Japanese expectations and society and would have otherwise been NEETs or left slaving away at black companies if they hadn't lucksacked into vtubing. But it's been a weeb staple for decades to visit once see just the good parts and think the country some sort of utopia. "Thing but Japan" became a meme for a reason.
 
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wanting to live in a city with clean streets and a society who respects itself is right wing now?

protip: you don't need to be "rightwing" or whatever the fuck to understand lot of people don't want to live in a place like modern day paris or SF, let alone raise kids there...


so are a lot of troons, going by that logic troons are right wing now too... :stress:
He's talking about the pros and cons of living in a homogenous society, which is also why Japan is so good, but this conversation isn't for the VT board. So what do you guys think of Phasewars 2 so far?
 
The 2nd Nijsanji Virtual Rhapsody in Singapore is held this weekend. They couldn't sell out Finana's, Millie's and Elira's Meet & Greet tickets beforehands
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now this clip makes rounds and it's fucking dead
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and no, that's not the sound check
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There's only one word that can describe this: sad. All I can hope for is when the EN branch burns down completely we can get some more tea spilled in regards to what discussions were held with the black background stream.
 
There's only one word that can describe this: sad. All I can hope for is when the EN branch burns down completely we can get some more tea spilled in regards to what discussions were held with the black background stream.
No, it's completely packed, it's just that most of the attendees were cosplaying as empty seats.
 
think about how many of the vtubers we watch are people that couldn't fit into Japanese expectations and society and would have otherwise been NEETs or left slaving away at black companies if they hadn't lucksacked into vtubing.
Yeah I've been thinking about this a lot lately, how a lot of these people are success stories in the same sense that a retard or a cripple throwing out a pitch at an MLB game is. Mentally unwell hikikomori who have managed to escape NEETdom not by rising above their obstacles and integrating into society in a traditional sense but by the advent of technology that allows them to make a living without ever getting better, and we give them money and tell them its a real job. I can't tell if it's dystopian or not. In any case I'm cautious of taking advice or inspiration from any of them.
 
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Pippa's having depression after leaving Japan and is literally tilted
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The past 5 minutes has been her mostly off screen.
Menhera NEET weeblord with no connection to her local community goes to glorious Nippon with her Internet friends and has tons of fun, is depressed when she returns home to just her parents and pets. She's an IRL loser, of course she wants to live in the amusement park forever. There's nothing keeping her tied to the US aside from her family. Japan is great to visit and I did tons of things I could never do here in the US but ultimately I have a life here that I wouldn't leave behind for anything. I have family, friends, and a career here. If you don't have any of those things it's easy to just want to leave

But she's so paranoid that I can see her eventually thinking she's gonna get abducted by the Yakuza every time she steps outside because she's the only white girl in the neighborhood. Magic Japanese soil won't fix her problems
If America could get the cool video game shit japan has, this country would be perfect, but it doesn't
If you like rhythm games or Initial D you can go to your nearest Round1. Otherwise yeah you're kinda out of luck
 
Mentally unwell hikikomori who have managed to escape NEETdom not by rising above their obstacles and integrating into society in a traditional sense but by the advent of technology that allows them to make a living without ever getting better, and we give them its a real job.
"real job" is a boomer meme, nothing you do for money is more "real" just because you work yourself to death at a factory line or construction site. they earn money and pay taxes, you literally can't get more productive and integrating into society unless it veers of into MUH VALUE spergery.
as for never getting better, I always say parasocial works both ways. there's a big difference sitting at home in your own head thinking no one gives a shit, and then having an extended circle of people who enjoy your personality and in some form care about you to the point they're willing to give you money for it as entertainment. compare pippa back then and now, or any of the other ones.
society is also constantly changing. 100 years ago without TV or radio some also made money by not having a "real" job, and people found their entertainment elsewhere. there's not a big difference between watching a vtuber and go to a theater or cabaret to watch someone sing or their other antics (besides the former you can do in your underpants conveniently from home). people have been paying money for someone to perform for literal millennia, only the form changed according to technology and with it opportunities/setbacks (imagine being a live-performer when TVs or radio became popular) like it always does.

But that's why like I said at first, Japan's a cool place to visit when you don't have to actually participate in a lot of the societal bullshit they put on their own people.
except that's the same everywhere. are there people delusional enough to think there are absolutely no downsides to something? absolutely, just like there are people thinking their oshi is really in love with them. everyone else knows and accepts in reality you can't have good without bad and vice versa.

however, we're at a point where lot of the west can't even hide the rot in their prime tourist areas. have you visited SF, london or the eiffel tower recently? the more shit something gets the more people want "out" and long for something "better", especially if you're old enough to remember it wasn't like that just 15-20 years ago.

regarding the rest, the same applies here as well. seeing some middle-aged guy stacking shelves at walmart or flipping burgers won't make anyone think dude has a successful career and satisfying life, same as being a hikki-neet and having to endure any shitty job they can get to make ends meet. normalfags aren't right- (or leftwing), they just want someone mildly attractive to fuck and somewhat safe areas to raise kids, which of course makes japan looks more attractive right now by simple comparison. same way vtubers are better entertainment for a lot of people now than whatever shit they can find in hollywood (I mean we're sitting in this thread for a reason), but calling that "right-wing idolization" would be more than a stretch.

He's talking about the pros and cons of living in a homogenous society, which is also why Japan is so good, but this conversation isn't for the VT board. So what do you guys think of Phasewars 2 so far?
fair enough, there's still nothing rightwing about it. I'm just calling it retarded, it's on the level of "all vtubers are men and if you like them you're a pedo anyway".

now back on catching up on the last month... (so no phasewars yet).

blast from the past thread tax
 
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holy shit day 2 of phase wars is scuffed. they just jumped right into the round and a few phase members weren't even live and shina is threatening to drop slurs cause she got eliminated while setting up controls. lol
Day 1 of Phase Wars was also a shitshow. There's no way to figure out if someone in SAR was on your team or not, so there was tons of team killing going on. In Fall Guys they figured out to have players use specific colors. They should have had specific animals for SAR.
 
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