General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Over-entitled artists were upset at very basic buyer protection measures for works that can cost clients sometimes several hundred dollars (particularly with models or art assets) and seethed about it on social media. The only real direct changes were that Vgen delayed implementing these new measures until June, and pushed back the guaranteed delivery date to 2 years instead of 150 days.

For a day or two twitter was filled with an assortment of screeds about how this is "literally killing artists" by making them work under realistic delivery conditions.
I'm assuming it's primarily US/Canadian/other Anglo countries screeching, because the Asians I've gotten commissions from have been quite prompt and would show updates.
Astounding lack of self awareness
And it's not like Kirsche is this unavoidable behemoth; she's just an indie who has about 50-60k subscribers, combining both twitch and youtube. You can literally just watch Hololive, Idol, etc. They just don't like it when the tables hath turned on them.
 
shes just a massive pickme
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What witchcraft did Cover use to tardwrangle this menhera for over 2 years?
I'm pretty sure back then wasn't as bad, or at least more manageable. as much as people dislike corpo-culture, some people strive there.
remember her behavior was never the issue, it all happened because discord/obs being niggershit, which then lead to the fallout. after getting terminated she had to deal with everything on her own, that loss of (controlled) environment would have an effect on everybody, I said as much even back then. there's a big difference in finding a good tardwrangler, even without the baggage, than get one assigned and the company takes care of the rest, on top of all the other stuff you suddenly have to deal with. that's not an excuse, but still important factors. another thing to keep in mind, by her own admission she's not the brightest bulb in the box. even kirsche has trouble finding reliable people, and she's a lot smarter; now imagine being THE former top earner of cover, dabbling in GFE which breeds it's own kind of shizo, just got a very public termination. can't even imagine what kind of bullshit must have flown her way.
all those things considered is why I cut her some slack.

it's not a simple office job you can get back doing just for a different company, not only is there no real alternative in the professional sphere for cover (lol nijisanji), the graduation made her toxic to anyone else. vshojo might be a corpo in name, but they don't necessarily offer the same "service" with the inevitable limitations, which some people like kson prefer.

tbh while I can understand why cover had to drop her, if they instead had put the fear of god into her while adjusting procedures we'd probably look at completely different situation. now it sucks for the audience, her and even cover.

I mean yeah, objectively, but by the same virtue "too afraid to leave the house and talk to people" doesn't magically become a healthy lifestyle just because people start paying you to do it, nor should it warrant any more esteem than your average hiki just because people start paying you to do it. It's cool that they get to make a living now but they're not being incentivized to overcome the things keeping them from a normal life. I feel like you got hung up on the phrase "real job" and missed my point that a lot of these people are the definition of mentally unwell.

I don't really have a point besides remembering to be mindful of that reality when these gremlins are talking in your ear, I guess.
the problem is shit like that is often self-reinforcing and/or environmental. and you can't just go "duh just leave the house" just as you can't say "bro stop coughing and being sick". doesn't work like that.
so if there's an external influence that breaks them out of the cycle or changes the social environment enough they can improve I'm all for it, therapy can have many forms.

it's less what gremlins talk into my ear, more that I've seen that shit firsthand, so I kinda understand where they're coming from.
 
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i agree with null more than kirsche here whats the fucking harm in not tagging softcore porn as soft core porn? ,i would support her more if she wasn't herself so hypocritical in her views and flip floping between views and i can never forget her wanting a commission from shadman and having a loli vtuber model that even her own fans were put off by it, used to think she was cool like pippa but shes just a massive pickme
Oh right I can't wait till ghost reacts to her new model
A brand new wholesome anti-racist Vtuber is debuting, please be respectful:
Yea i'm just going to do myself a favor and stay away
 
What happened to her twitch?
I believe you're referring to Parasi, who justly received a 14-day suspension for saying, *sigh*, "k*ke" on stream. Needless to say, this is unacceptable behavior, Israel is our greatest ally, remember the 6 million.
Thankfully, we now have Paramochi to teach us all why racism and antisemitism are bad. What would we do without her?
 
Go watch Kirsche debating Filian, weed girl and Mari Mari Underscore EN and you'll find a newfound appreciation for her. Seriously. Filian is such a dumb fucking seanigger cunt when it comes to anything remotely serious god damn.

Btw r*ddit has begun to notice Kirsche:
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muh weed
That sub is hilariously gay. They started out being normally as spergy as you'd expect from a youtuber drama subreddit then it got flooded with and taken over by hivbomberguy fans. Now 50% of the posts are about how Wendigoon and Internet Historian are evil nazis and the other half are them theorizing what YouTubers are crypto nazis.
 
I believe you're referring to Parasi, who justly received a 14-day suspension for saying, *sigh*, "k*ke" on stream. Needless to say, this is unacceptable behavior, Israel is our greatest ally, remember the 6 million.
Thankfully, we now have Paramochi to teach us all why racism and antisemitism are bad. What would we do without her?
Does anyone know what type of French is she? Is she native French or French Canadian? I'm not sure which government I would fear more spouting wrong think in to be honest.
 
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That sub is hilariously gay. They started out being normally as spergy as you'd expect from a youtuber drama subreddit then it got flooded with and taken over by hivbomberguy fans. Now 50% of the posts are about how Wendigoon and Internet Historian are evil nazis and the other half are them theorizing what YouTubers are crypto nazis.
Maybe some of those are just fans making posts to get retards to hate watch someone
 
A brand new wholesome anti-racist Vtuber is debuting, please be respectful:
What the actual fuck, this stream may be the most ballsy thing I've ever seen a VTuber do in my entire life, holy shit.


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Link to VOD Archive on Gofile
 
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What the actual fuck, this stream may be the most ballsy thing I've ever seen a VTuber do in my entire life, holy shit.
Whomst? (video gone I guess)
Para's a french indie vtuber who has a good voice and comfy vibes. Very easygoing and knows not to take things too seriously. Diamond in the rough. She's using Mochi's debut as a way to have a degree of separation from her actual model which you can call stupid but it's hilarious.

edit: Holy shi- Never mind I'm late. She's been banned yesterday for 2 weeks on Twitch. Her video was a response to her ban for accidently slipping bad words.
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