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Cover is still a JP company. So I'm pretty sure if they were going to introduce an MtF Trans person they'd pigeonhole them in with the Stars like they did with with Kaoru or Kira (not officially trans, but come on). Much to the dismay of SJW's. So I'm pretty sure they're just not going to bother any time soon.
 
Or leaking API credentials on stream.

"Fuck, gotta go refresh my keys, hang on." -- nearly every software dev streamer at multiple times throughout their streaming stint.
"Sorry guys, Canonical/Red Hat/Debian just deprecated the last version of [MODERN BROKE-ASS WEB LANGUAGE] that supports [COMMON IDIOM I USED UNTIL AUTISTIC LANGUAGE DESIGNER SUDDENLY DECIDED IT WAS WRONGBAD SIX MONTHS AGO], so now this stream is going to consist of me rewriting my entire codebase around this change."
 
IMO this gen likely won't be mixed-gender, just because the female side of the equation is well-explored and with a guaranteed level of base popularity. Could be wrong, but don't see Cover taking any major leaps right now when the EN female vtuber market is still unsaturated and Nijisani has yet to debut their first EN gen.


Don't believe so, it reads like the one for second gen that began last month and supposedly received 5-10k in applications (!!)

EDIT: Ah beaten by Cubanodun
>EN female vtuber market
>unsaturated

bro...

I don't believe EN Gen 2 will be mixed gender, either. I'd hazard a guess that it'll be a situation similar to JP with main EN branch and EN Holostars separate. It would also make sense in terms of the gachikoi base due to cross-contamination between the JP and EN audiences as well as the exceptional ones from EN. ElUltimoMohicano's ideas on the skillsets make sense and I would be surprised if they were different.
 
I don't believe EN Gen 2 will be mixed gender, either. I'd hazard a guess that it'll be a situation similar to JP with main EN branch and EN Holostars separate. It would also make sense in terms of the gachikoi base due to cross-contamination between the JP and EN audiences as well as the exceptional ones from EN. ElUltimoMohicano's ideas on the skillsets make sense and I would be surprised if they were different.
Can we get the announcement of Holostar EN so we can joke about Dankula and Dr disrespect getting in?

. So I'm pretty sure if they were going to introduce an MtF Trans person they'd pigeonhole them in with the Stars like they did with with Kaoru or Kira (not officially trans, but come on). Much to the dismay of SJW's. So I'm pretty sure they're just not going to bother any time soon.
Not going to happen in a million years, Cover knows their talents are going to get doxed eventually and unless Tranny chasers are majority they really dont want the extra bagagge that a tranny will ensue, also Japan can wangle all their want they consider the gheys a anomaly that should be ignored until they join the statistic
 
Kiara on stream asking her chat if they're disappointed she didn't fight with Moona. Says there is no hate in hololive. Asks people to not take the fighting over bekora seriously.
Great! Now can we please stop with the Kiara doom hatred because it's really really starting to get boring. Almost as boring as play-by-play posting of whatever pekora did on stream or talking about MH builds.
 
this is kind of a stretch and dumb, but im guessing EN is trying to go independent, as in trying to establish themselves as a standalone main branch and not a side branch like ID or CN was.
They actually are a seperate main branch as someone already posted as well as Subaru and perhaps others confirming EN generations would be handled differently than JP's style. What's interesting to speculate on from your post is how much of an EN branch of Cover itself might be happening behind the scenes. They already require language specialists, and we've seen how EN needs special permissions for games from publisher divisions. It might be easier for Cover to give a Cover EN some autonomy.

So, we thinking a early summer debut?
Other pointless speculation time.
Is this gen going to gave a theme?
Countries of origin?
Character types?
Will an ethot be able to sneak in this time?
Ultramo mentioned mixed gender and I honestly hope not. I joke about it alot, but I do not want to see news about a Holo being a sexual predator and am willing to say no boys allowed to avoid it. There's too many male streamers at most 2 steps removed from that shit.
 
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and we've seen how EN needs special permissions for games from publisher divisions
Not quite, Ina playing MonHun literally a day after release is proof of that, there is no office of Hololive USA in the states so they are considered Cover employees, if Cover get permits everyone get them, but that include the same rules as their sempais aka they cant play Chinese games because China bad

What i did notice is that most of the times the talents dont know about the permits until is announced in their social media that is why barring some crazies you need to wait until their actual schedule is complete to them to play the games they got recent permissions that is why Shion is not giving a fuck and Korone is still on Dragon Quest

Dank just had a kid, so that's even less plausible than the zero it already was.
Jokes on you, Dads are on demand
 
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>EN female vtuber market
>unsaturated

Technically? Yeah it's unsaturated, the only big fish is HoloEN right now (VShojo and indies don't count). That'll definitely change once HoloEN gen 2 comes out and Niji finally reveals their EN group though because you'll start seeing the slow growth and noticeable viewership cannibalism many of the JP girls have experienced since day one.
 
Technically? Yeah it's unsaturated, the only big fish is HoloEN right now (VShojo and indies don't count). That'll definitely change once HoloEN gen 2 comes out and Niji finally reveals their EN group though because you'll start seeing the slow growth and noticeable viewership cannibalism many of the JP girls have experienced since day one.
I'd like to see a "contest" style vtuber generation where all the money the girls earn goes into one big pool and as time goes on, the lowest performing girl is cut, and then the money is only paid out when there is one girl remaining.

Like it or not, the Coomer market is a big one and VShojo draws a reasonable number of eyes, particularly Nyanners. That's why you see kizuna/hololive reaching out to them for collabs. I also think Veibae will continue to get bigger because she's about two notches lewder than Nyanners + is from the exotic land of Polandball.


Speaking of, ran into this randomly, some trap speaking polish on stream

 
Like both sides have shown interest in collabing with one another, but there's obviously something that management feels is important enough to stop it from happening. And having other branches on the EN server isn't the issue either because Ame invited ID to play whenever they want.
All these rrats about Cover management playing some sort of 4D chess about collab restrictions isn't taking into account that it can really all be boiled down to the notoriety of Japanese middle-management inefficiency. You're supposed to ask for permission for everything and even if you do, it has to snake its way through all their "proper" channels and you'd be lucky to hear back a "Yes" in a month.

Great! Now can we please stop with the Kiara doom hatred because it's really really starting to get boring. Almost as boring as play-by-play posting of whatever pekora did on stream or talking about MH builds.
I'm all up for laughing at the aryan chicken if she does mess up but all the recent doomposting about her and stuff that turned out to be nothingburgers about her normal, negligible chat interactions is bordering into imageboard faggotry. Stop trying to speak it into existence, faggots. Just fucking let it happen.

so if Cover get permits everyone get them, but that include the same rules as their sempais aka they cant play Chinese games because China bad
I think this varies depending on the game dev/publisher. Not all permissions are the same and the added caveat of permissions for region-specific versions is a fucking mess to begin with. I believe Gura mentioned this in an older stream when a lot of people were telling her that JP got permissions from a certain dev/publisher and she responded that it doesn't necessarily translate to them on the EN side.
 
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I'd like to see a "contest" style vtuber generation where all the money the girls earn goes into one big pool and as time goes on, the lowest performing girl is cut, and then the money is only paid out when there is one girl remaining.
Ah, a good ol' fashioned tontine.

EDIT: The real real question is how many times will Ame be imposter on the EN1+EN2 Among Us collab?
 
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Oh my god I got a letter from Cover they want me in EN Gen 2!

You can tell it's me behind the avatar when I call you all niggers and talk about the link between race and IQ.
I wonder if Ina got good grades because she's Asian or because she wasn't allowed to play video games and was threatened when she got a C? Hmmm...
 
You're supposed to ask for permission for everything and even if you do, it has to snake its way through all their "proper" channels and you'd be lucky to hear back a "Yes" in a month.
Funny how that only applies for japanese devs, american devs are just like "what? really go ahead we cool, no questions asked", Jp is "we need your talents to shill this then sign this and that we want exclusivity for future shit and blahblahblah and our lawyers will contact you", really that is how i believe Capcom meeting was

In other news the SexBox got a peculiar exclusive today, i dont know who asked for a shill fishing game but now we got one


I believe Gura mentioned this in an older stream when a lot of people were telling her that JP got permissions from a certain dev/publisher and she responded that it doesn't necessarily translate to them on the EN side.
Before Capcom was Sega and before that was Nintendo iirc, Gura touched Nintendo (Luigi Mansion 3, Super Metroid) and Sega (Project Diva) still no Capcom game but Ina is already covering that
 
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