General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Diya]

Maybe. When she had that breakdown on stream a few months ago Kanata asked if she was on pills and she denied it.

Nah, she's just drinking random stuff while eating premium beef tongue. There is nothing to doompost about in that picture. It does talk about your ability to detect the bait tho.
Coco stop using sleeping pill a long time ago, probably shortly after the sleeping pill accident last year. She only use them because during the time she was also working as regular office worker on top of doing Asacoco. So her schedule was wake up at 4 to prepare for Asacoco -> do Asacoco at 6 ->go to work -> get home and try to have a short nap -> streaming at night. After that, she find it hard to get to sleep, common case of insomnia.

>hanging dried fish close as snack for a binge while getting shitfaced
stop, how much more based can that dragon be.

Just plushiebtw, sadly. Not sure why she got dried fish plushie tho

 

[Town Drunk]

Coco is the worst female singer I've heard but she's still very happy Genki. Also WTF was that man voice in country road, lmfao.

That's part of the enjoyment, she is having so much fun. As someone who doesn't miss her singing streams I can see a lot of improvement in the last few months. Especially when its a song she's sung a dozen times before. She can actually hit some high notes. This stream is her just messing around.

 

[augment]

I feel Ollie would benefit a lot from "normal circumstances" aka not being fucking trapped indoors for the foreseeable future due to the china coof.
Sucks for her, but like others have mentioned, if you cannot split between "friendship club of eternal friends!" and professional entertainment job and youtuber circus jester, things will quickly go unbearable. No wonder abnormal freaks are better suited for this. I was just reminded of the time Pekora mentioned she's such a freaking autistic sperg, she won't allow male hairdressers to touch her, because she can't talk to them.

 

[Diya]

I feel Ollie would benefit a lot from "normal circumstances" aka not being fucking trapped indoors for the foreseeable future due to the china coof.
Sucks for her, but like others have mentioned, if you cannot split between "friendship club of eternal friends!" and professional entertainment job and youtuber circus jester, things will quickly go unbearable. No wonder abnormal freaks are better suited for this. I was just reminded of the time Pekora mentioned she's such a freaking autistic sperg, she won't allow male hairdressers to touch her, because she can't talk to them.

Huh. Now I remember something Mori said in her Your Mori lyric diving. She said something along the line of "It take a certain type of people to do this stuff (vtubing) for a long time. Not that they can't do it, but they might not enjoy this." New rrat since if it's true that Ollie mention Callie as someone who understand her, is Mori saying that with someone specifically in her mind?

 

[Town Drunk]

Huh. Now I remember something Mori said in her Your Mori lyric diving. She said something along the line of "It take a certain type of people to do this stuff (vtubing) for a long time. Not that they can't do it, but they might not enjoy this." New rrat since if it's true that Ollie mention Callie as someone who understand her, is Mori saying that with someone specifically in her mind?

I doubt Ollie was getting fingerblasted on stream, much less a collab. This is coomer autism at work.

She never fit in and was bullied IRL, so now that she has a chance to be popular and interact with people she admires, she's putting on a front. Be extremely outgoing, try to be the life of the party, etc. Her enthusiasm at having such a huge opportunity is part of why I like her. Hence why I doubt she'd risk it by letting her BF finger her on stream. But I can imagine it's tiring. So I'm not suprised if shes using her members as her therapist, because she is trying way too hard and is afraid of not being the persona she is trying way too hard to be. Imagine getting a gig at a high profile concert set, or comedy club, and being scared shitless that you'll bomb.

 

[Diya]

I doubt Ollie was getting fingerblasted on stream, much less a collab. This is coomer autism at work.

Wait, are we talking this rrat of her risking her career to get some fun with her suppose boyfriend that some schizo cook up seriously? I thought you guy are discussing it as a joke because everything have been so drama free lately. Just because it is somewhat fitting in your perverted mind doesn't mean it real, you know? Don't be a hornyposter.

About her membership stream, some member do consider them an inner circle of sort. Not like in a bad faith, but more of "if you're willing to pay for membership, you're less likely to be my hater." Coco, during the shitty period, said same thing along the line that membership/Kson stream is her safe place where she can relax. I still think Ollie shouldn't air her laundry too much just because they're her simp. At the end of the day, streamer/fan isn't friend. Maybe it's just her being new to this and being overwhelmed. I hope she take her time resting and comeback being more mature about this. Despite the rosy appearance, Hololive is a demanding professional job.

 

[Town Drunk]

Wait, are we talking this rrat of her risking her career to get some fun with her suppose boyfriend that some schizo cook up seriously? I thought you guy are discussing it as a joke because everything have been so drama free lately. Just because it can is somewhat fitting in your perverted mind doesn't mean it real, you know? Don't be a hornyposter.

About her membership stream, some member do consider them an inner circle of sort. Not like in a bad faith, but more of "if you're willing to pay for membership, you're less likely to be my hater." Coco, during the shitty period, said same thing alone the line that membership is her safe place where she can relax. I still think Ollie shouldn't air her laundry too much just because they're her simp. At the end of the day, streamer/fan isn't friend. Maybe it's just her being new to this and being overwhelmed. I hope she take her time resting and comeback being more mature about this. Despite the rosy appearance, Hololive is a demanding professional job.

Some people were yes.

 

[Takodachi]

Wait, are we talking this rrat of her risking her career to get some fun with her suppose boyfriend that some schizo cook up seriously? I thought you guy are discussing it as a joke because everything have been so drama free lately. Just because it is somewhat fitting in your perverted mind doesn't mean it real, you know? Don't be a hornyposter.

I for one welcome a new rrat, having to rehash the same tired "Keeki did porn for a living" and similar over and over again gets tiring. But even assuming its all true, so fucking what, worst scenario what Ollie did is unprofessional and if you are angry and jealous that Ollie has a BF, I want you to know you are pathetic and you should kill yourself.

Leave idol faggotry attitude to the Japanese retards.

 

[Groundpounder]

meh , i dont agree , this vtuber business model is depend on parasocial relationship , its already on job desc , she can get fingered as long as she like behind the scene with whoever she want, but if she choose to get it on her stream ,she deserved what is coming, even kpop idol understand they need to atleast big enough or already gather a lot of cuck before dating publicly.

and are we forgot she could lie? she can lie about being bullied ,stress or mental illness, make her vip member think they the only one she can trust seem like a bs she said to keep them feel more important , and probably a call to defend her if shit happen. and its common to some newbie dating a big fish for clout chasing. so yeah if the ratt true that the jaret guy date her since her akumamomo days, i wouldnt be surprised

 

[kuuu]

@Groundpounder are you insinuating that you should judge people by what they do and not what they say? How scandalous.

 

[Tatsunoko]

Just plushiebtw, sadly. Not sure why she got dried fish plushie tho

She uses them to weigh down her mic arm, I think she struggles with it during her announcing membership stream. She started using the fish after this stream and I'm fairly sure there's a Mildom stream where she fiddles with the fish and her mic arm.

Also, she's the second channel I've seen with the Applaud button next to the Likes/Dislikes. The other one I've seen that has it is Matsuri. (For people who live in countries that don't allow SC it's probably not there for you)

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

I just honestly can't see how so many people can vehemently deny the rrat. Sure, chances are it isn't true, but have you actually watched the clip? This is one of the most solid rrats to ever escape the lab. No one moans that much and says those things unless something is going on. Even Reine seemed uncomfortable. There has to be at least some truth to it.

I myself was a nonbeliever when the story broke months ago. I laughed at the schizo posting it. It's worse than the dude tracking her bathroom habits. But I never gave the clip the time of day until now. And I see it, I really do.

If it is true? Good on her, live your life. But it is fucked and unprofessional to do that live on stream. It's the equivalent of me being on a work call and one of my coworkers just starts jerking it audibly for all to hear. If it isn't true? Even better. But I for one relish the chance to discuss literally any drama here. It's been one hell of a dry spell and I can actively get behind this one.

 

[Takodachi]

My issue is that it only takes a few retards to have an Aloe situation again, where they force the vtuber into retirement over harassment.
Laugh at her and the situation all you want, even shit talk if you want to, but for the love of god dont go full nippon banzai, I'd like to believe this side of the pond isnt as autistic as the nips ()

on an unrelated topic
Is it me, or Haachama's voice sounds deeper as of lately?

 

[Groundpounder]

@kuuu i feel kinda brave today~

My issue is that it only takes a few retards to have an Aloe situation again

well if it not true then i agree, but if its true ,she had it coming, and since we already bored to death about aloe graduate posting , this can be our replacement. win win situation~

 

[Eddie IX]

I just honestly can't see how so many people can vehemently deny the rrat. Sure, chances are it isn't true, but have you actually watched the clip? This is one of the most solid rrats to ever escape the lab. No one moans that much and says those things unless something is going on. Even Reine seemed uncomfortable. There has to be at least some truth to it.

I myself was a nonbeliever when the story broke months ago. I laughed at the schizo posting it. It's worse than the dude tracking her bathroom habits. But I never gave the clip the time of day until now. And I see it, I really do.

Alright, I didn't bother watching the clip either at first. For starters, look at the way it's written, stuff like:

she says that she does not wanna go, hinting about returning to the house but this could also mean that she is telling her partner that she does not want to leave the stream

Ok, wannabe-Dan-Brown, sure. She's distracted by her BF fingering her, but manages to give cryptic clues that both work in the game's context and the fingering context, right off the cuff.

"there is a lot of salt here" probably referring on how mad Reine got out of all of this.

This one made me laugh. Sometimes you can smell a fake story just from the word choices (e.g. those "everybody stood up and clapped" autism fantasies). In this case, count the number of times the word "probably" appears in the text. Go ahead, I couldn't do it, ran out of fingers.

But ok. The rrat wasn't dying, so I started up the video at the timestamp to have a look.

she screams it's not okay to her partner, trying to make it look lie she is scared/distressed, look how little sense this makes for the context of the game.

Context? Literally right before this, Anya said "It's ok, it's ok".

big moan following an blissful "it's there" kek

"It's there" is referring to the ghost, she walked into a "cold spot" in the game (where her thermometer drops below freezing).

I've sperged enough and I'm not gonna continue into a full line-by-line debunk, but suffice to say the rest is just as much of a stretch, just a half-assed fan fiction. The fastest cure for believing this rrat is to simply watch the video. But hey, at least it's something to talk about, thread's been slow lately.

FWIW, if it were true, I'd very much be against Ollie on the grounds that it's a real dick move to her genmates, who I like better than her anyway.

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

*snip*

FWIW, if it were true, I'd very much be against Ollie on the grounds that it's a real dick move to her genmates, who I like better than her anyway.

Oh of course. Half of what that autist posted is obviously creating fake context for the rrat. I don't think anyone believes half of that shit, it's laughable. Thats why I never bothered with the clip before.

I just firmly believe that something was going on along those lines now. The moans, the speechless genmates and awkward silences, her almost begging to end the stream. It just smells fishy. Granted, my knowledge of Ollie is limited to her debut stream and collabs with EN, where she wasn't acting like this.

Also, deleting comments doesn't on the video doesn't help deny it.

 

[Takodachi]

It just smells fishy

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

Ha. Pun actually not intended. But I'll take it.

 

[kuuu]

Also, deleting comments doesn't on the video doesn't help deny it.

Often see claims of that on various YT videos. When creators address these claims they often state that it's youtube's own doing. Many similar comments in quick succession put them in spam category, or something like that. And getting them to appear would require channel owner to manually unlist them.

Choco is having an Apex challenge turned to torture endurance stream. She has to kill 59 ppl. She's been going at it for 10 bloody hours. Admirable tenacity.

Gonna throw shade on undead complainy pants here - you are new fish and already out of breath, some claim. And that's despite prior experience.
I can't personally take that seriously when talents like Choco, Mel or Aki exist who got fucked due to no fault of their own. Mostly.

Git gud, zombo.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

meh , i dont agree , this vtuber business model is depend on parasocial relationship , its already on job desc , she can get fingered as long as she like behind the scene with whoever she want, but if she choose to get it on her stream ,she deserved what is coming, even kpop idol understand they need to atleast big enough or already gather a lot of cuck before dating publicly.

and are we forgot she could lie? she can lie about being bullied ,stress or mental illness, make her vip member thing they the only one she can trust seem like a bs she said to keep them feel more important , and probably a call to defend her if shit happen. and its common to some newbie dating a big fish for clout chasing. so yeah if the ratt true that the jaret guy date her since her akumamomo days, i wouldnt be surprised

I don't even particularly care that she got fingered. I mean, you do you, two consenting adults and all that. But she's a damn idiot for letting people notice, and especially for doing it in a collab stream. What's done is done but I hope it isn't done again. If this is an accident she's equally an idiot for making those noises so whatever.

As for her mental health, I'm inclined to think that her current persona is at fault. Playing that high-energy facade must be absolutely exhausting, as people have already mentioned. I also seriously wonder if it makes it hard to deal with her colleagues. Maybe she should reach out to Subaru (who can possibly match her energy) or Sora (who just doesn't have enough collab partners).

on an unrelated topic
Is it me, or Haachama's voice sounds deeper as of lately?

It's as and when she wants to. Raised-pitch voice seems to be a common thing in early gen, with Suisei, Fubuki, Sora, Matsuri and Haato all talking somewhat higher than they sing (or at least they used to, that's changing now of course).