General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Forgot what page that clusterfuck happened in, but if you want to see the fireworks as it happened, go time-traveling a few hundred pages back.
Luckily, I remembered the first post made after we got plagued was me saying "We made it boys". I looked back from there.
vampire-maid-onion has a new cover coming out in ~4 hours
Most of the people covering it are your standard higher pitched Chuuba like Hoshikawa, Polka, Shion, and Aqua. For a palate cleanser, have Ange Katrina covering it with her deeper voice.
 
Fuel for "Cover is shady company" rrat
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In other news, apparently the news of Coco's graduation was made known 3 months ago, and she has been told to keep it from the holomem.
FYI, it's less "You can't tell them." and more "Maybe you shouldn't tell them yet." Maybe they thought it will affect the morale of others (which it apparently did) or maybe they had hope that if Coco don't tell others yet, she can back out of it easier should she change her mind before the time come. I spend hours watch streams since the announcement. It's clear as day that despite the red-tape, the fuck up, and the creative difference, she have nothing but grati1tude to Hololive at the end. She even call it the best year of her life. Did she have some gripe with them? Yes, but it isn't any bad blood. She even go to say that she love idol culture too, even if she doesn't understand all the japanese culture even now. She found the way JP idol growing up with their fans amazing.

Edit : Oh right. She have one regret leaving Hololive. She firmly believe that HoloES have to be a thing and regret not making it happen. New rrats, they kick her out before she will the branch into existence again.
 
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FYI, it's less "You can't tell them." and more "Maybe you shouldn't tell them yet." Maybe they thought it will affect the morale of others (which it apparently did) or maybe they had hope that if Coco don't tell others yet, she can back out of it easier should she change her mind before the time come. I spend hours watch streams since the announcement. It's clear as day that despite the red-tape, the fuck up, and the creative difference, she have nothing but grati1tude to Hololive at the end. She even call it the best year of her life. Did she have some gripe with them? Yes, but it isn't any bad blood. She even go to say that she love idol culture too, even if she doesn't understand all the japanese culture even now. She found the way JP idol growing up with their fans amazing.
I don't follow her that much, so I don't have all the info, but I still curious of some details.
Did she talked about Hololive as "group of friends" or Hololive as a whole (including the company, the business practice, the relationship with behind the scene people, etc)?
It is clear that she is grateful to be part of this "group of friends", but what about the other aspect?
Have she ever talked about her good memories related to the staff behind the scene?

Edit : Oh right. She have one regret leaving Hololive. She firmly believe that HoloES have to be a thing and regret not making it happen. New rrats, they kick her out before she will the branch into existence again.
Have we ever heard other members that have ambition beyond themself? I imagine the common ambitions are fame, money, music release, concert, and anything else that only affect themself individually. Coco's goal seems beyond herself. Her goal would affect the whole group. I imagine that would quite difficult or impossible to achieve if her position is just another talents of an agency.
 
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  1. Temma showing up earlier than the due date of technicall meeting before the Mariokart collab with ID. have your common stereotype japanese try not to be late. and somehow he manage to talk with the girls where they still chatting and talk in Indonesia with the manager
  2. Apparently according Ollie, during the discord call, Temma have this cool/gentleman vibe, where Miyabi show up with childish/cute vibe
  3. tfw ollie more prepare setting a collab than callie prep with gura, getting stressful due its not according to her plan during rehearsal
  4. Astel being a bro by going reverse before finishline in MK due ollie sounds frustated for being last and the not good setting collab
  5. Temma sending dm in english to ollie saying "next time it will not be like this again"

sauce: current Ollie Zatsudan collab

edit: lmao ollie blow up after getting tired with those indo chat meme shit "cant understand english". hope it wont trigger the management to get another meeting moment regarding ID talent need to talk in Indo

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I don't follow her that much, so I don't have all the info, but I still curious of some details.
Did she talked about Hololive as "group of friends" or Hololive as a whole (including the company, the business practice, the relationship with behind the scene people, etc)?
It is clear that she is grateful to be part of this "group of friends", but what about the other aspect?
Have she ever talked about her good memories related to the staff behind the scene?
We are lucky that Coco done the member-only stream where she pretty much explain everything she can without breaking the NDA. And in that stream and the following talk stream, she always refer to the Hololive talents as "Holomember" while when she talk about the agency or management, she'll refer to them as "Hololive." Since the LiveTL was leaked on 4chan, you can probably read it yourself, but there are some nuance that was left when you doesn't hear the tone of voice she say. There is a specific relevant part where Coco say she feel gratitude to all the Holomember, stuff, and management as well. She then go to say with a bit of stuffy nose that she feel sorry for always causing management a headache, and that her trying to circumvent the rules so many time might be among the reason we reach this point, and that's one thing she regret.

About the other Holomembers, she does share her perspective quite a bit. Of course, she see them as dear friends and use the term Nakama for them.(TL note : insert weeby wall of text explaining the term here). But when one SC being a concern fag and said he's fearing that despite everything Coco say about how it's for her own good, she might actually sacrificing herself for the sake of everyone else. Coco reply that if the "everyone" here means the other girls, she isn't doing it for them. While she cherish them, she isn't such a selfless person to sacrifice herself for others. Her leaving is for her own selfish reason.
Have we ever heard other members that have ambition beyond themself? I imagine the common ambitions are fame, money, music release, concert, and anything else that only affect themself individually. Coco's goal seems beyond herself. Her goal would affect the whole group. I imagine that would quite difficult or impossible to achieve if her position is just another talents of an agency.
I'm not really sure about other, but Suisei does say when she explain the meaning of her newest song "Ghost". She say that Vtuber as a whole is growing so much, but at the world outside there presence is still obscure and vague like a ghost. One of her goal is to make Vtuber become a more prominent form of entertainment on main stream media.

Since we're already talking about other girls, I guess I'll spreg a bit more on what Coco said about their reaction to the news. Towa cry the most and seems to cry often when discuss the topic. Kanata and Suisei is "very strong". Watame got concern and ask her reasons, ended up becoming a person Coco vent to. Choco-sensei try very hard to stop her and seems to do it many time. Marine send a message to her but talk about random stuff (which Marine who lurking in chat respond with "It wasn't random!".) Matsuri drop into DM and send creepy text like she's a pervert asking for a Line contact; which is probably her way of saying to keep close even after graduation. Coco talk with Kiara and said something along the line of "it's because i'm not good at tolerating..." and Kiara reply with "It's not something you have to tolerate!". Among them all, Coco is worry about Luna the most. To her, it seems that Luna thought she was joking when she break the news, and refuse to believe it right until the announcement. Coco said that Luna is bad at saying goodbye, and ask the fan to be kind to her.

I can go on a bit more about Suisei. She doesn't happy with management decision and say "What are they doing letting someone so talented and important to Hololive go like this?". Personal pet rrat, Suisei is someone who advocate that Idol doesn't have to fit in any box or form. That so long as there are people who look up to them, anyone can be an idol, Seiso or not. The change in direction from Hololive probably doesn't sit well with her philosophy. Despite that, she believe that the decision is what both side think is the best.
 
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Now this could be a banger stream, far as I can tell this is the biggest JP collab Ina has done so far, wonder if she be ultra seiso during it like ame does.

So far this is becoming a group English lesson for the other 3 and it fucking funny. They somehow become addicted the word Shiny from Ina. It rather cute
 
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Now this could be a banger stream, far as I can tell this is the biggest JP collab Ina has done so far, wonder if she be ultra seiso during it like ame does.
5 fucking am. I dont know if I will be able to stay awake for it, my headache is killing me and I'm starting to doze off.
The mind is willing, but the flesh is weak
 
5 fucking am. I dont know if I will be able to stay awake for it, my headache is killing me and I'm starting to doze off.
The mind is willing, but the flesh is weak
Time zones suck dick don't they, if it makes you feel any better it 11AM for me but going to miss maybe the first 30 mins or so as I got shit to do. Such is life I suppose.
 
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