General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Interestingly enough from a marketing standpoint, the Nijisanji approach seems to be the best way to expose their talents to a more normie audience. That said when you think about how hard it is to collab with Hololive because of how restrictive they tend to be, when you actually get someone to collab that's from outside there is that whole "exclusivity" feel to the whole thing. Might not really help the talent's numbers but the other way around and help the collab partner more than anything.
at least as far as the EN side of things go, not getting exposed to the "normie" audience is a godsend. The further away from woke twitter faggotry vtubers stay the better. If NijiEN goes down that road that'll probably be where my interest in them falls off a cliff.
 
Ultimately this, Aloe's was equally on her manager as the material was on Cover created channels. Mumei can be advised and told the dangers, but it's ultimately her right to decide what happens with her private info. She did not and now she either weathers the JP storm or folds.
Is there actually a storm going on though? Mumei's streams have no dislike bombing, her twitter hashtags are safe, and she seems to be just fine overall. The chances of JP spergs making any HoloEN graduate are close to zero because they know EN and their fanbases don't give nearly as much of a shit as their JP equivalents.
 
Is there actually a storm going on though? Mumei's streams have no dislike bombing, her twitter hashtags are safe, and she seems to be just fine overall. The chances of JP spergs making any HoloEN graduate are close to zero because they know EN and their fanbases don't give nearly as much of a shit as their JP equivalents.
There really isn't much of a storm, but my comment wasn't about any on-going storm. That said, JP are probably less likely to kick up a fuss on her channel. They're only used to picking on their own, lol.
 
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It's worthy of note, though, that these kinds of collabs ARE the Nijisanji way. Their JP branch very often collabs with high-end seiyuu and actors, mangaka, popular YouTubers, and professional gamers. As the EN branch grows, the likelihood that you are going to see them with big-name YouTubers and Twitch thots, as well as the woke sect of anime VA's, grows with it.
Thats gonna end fast when they start getting harassed by sykuno's fans. Those motherfuckers even harass sykuno's friends if theres even a bit of "negative banter". They are on kpop stan levels of deranged.
 
Off topic but @Burnt Fish what is your pfp from? Seen it before but can't remember and it's driving me nuts.

On topic: It feels kinda like a lot of EN2 is out of NA timing. Fauna, Sana, and Mumei stream in random as shit NA timing but Bael streams really early NA and Kronii streams really late.

And I'm all about them Kronii streams.
 
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Tbh, I envy Kiara's tolerance for Skyward Sword's motion controls and how often they de-sync. When I play I find myself constantly pressing 'Y' in fear of them being de-synced.
 
Off topic but @Burnt Fish what is your pfp from? Seen it before but can't remember and it's driving me nuts.
FGO Altera but in her Learning with manga form
On topic: It feels kinda like a lot of EN2 is out of NA timing. Fauna, Sana, and Mumei stream in random as shit NA timing but Bael streams really early NA and Kronii streams really late.
Yeah Kronii stream at 12:00 am in my timezone, is she european i wonder
 
I'm going through #gawrt to find the Gura equivalent of:

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That I've seen used a few times.
However, I'm beginning to suspect that humanity was a mistake:
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FGO Altera but in her Learning with manga form

Yeah Kronii stream at 12:00 am in my timezone, is she european i wonder
Thanks. Kept thinking Katanagatari or whatever but knew it was wrong.

In her Q&A, Dottovu, who is believed to be Kronii, said she was Korean living in Canada.

Not that it's going to matter to me but I kinda wonder if she's one of those androgynous Korean girls, tall and skinny type....or are those Korean boys? Idk, all I know is I liked Dottovu, I like Kronii. It's kinda a Senzawa/Gura thing for me.

Here's a question for you guys; when EN3 comes around, if Dakooters got in, knowing she's trans, how would you guys feel? Dakooters, if you don't know, IS trans but she's not like the twitter trans chicks who are all about "m'pronouns tho" she's not overly liberal and isn't exactly a snowflake.

Personally, I wouldn't mind it but I don't know if she'd be well received outside of the west.
 
Elira does indeed have a big collab this week but it isn't with HoloID as I predicted.

It's with Sykkuno.
Poor Elira. Having to be the "I settled for this" choice since Sad fuckboi can't collab with Gura, his true oshi. The offline TV fanbase is absolute fucking cancer from everything I've seen, especially anything involving Sykunno and CorpseHusband. Here's hoping it doesn't end up going south for her.
Yeah Kronii stream at 12:00 am in my timezone, is she european i wonder
Kronii slipped at the beginning of one of her streams. People mentioned she was slightly late, and she said "I started this stream at exactly 9". She realized what she said though and tried to pass it off as a few other different times. That lines up with her being on the west coast of the Americas. Timestamped below.

Also, some fun Pippa activity.
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Seems our cutest rabbit ever is a fan of Jim.

Here's a question for you guys; when EN3 comes around, if Dakooters got in, knowing she's trans, how would you guys feel? Dakooters, if you don't know, IS trans but she's not like the twitter trans chicks who are all about "m'pronouns tho" she's not overly liberal and isn't exactly a snowflake.

Personally, I wouldn't mind it but I don't know if she'd be well received outside of the west.
In the same vein as Chris Rock's "Niggas vs. Black People" rant, I feel there's a difference between trans people and Trannies. Regular trans people, who are just trying to live their fucking live as they are comfortable and not trying to evangelize shit (Blair White, Buck Angel, RoseOfDawn as some examples) I'm totally fine with. The second they start with their identity politics bullshit or their sexuality becomes a part of their personality (SonicFox, Artemis, etc) I'm out. It's just as bad as Veibae or any of the other coomer streamers, just they try to shield themselves from it by crying "Muh sexuality".
 
Watching the VOD for the Hana/Ollie APEX collab and you can just about cut the sexual tension with a knife; I'm so used to vtubers playacting and faux-yuri pandering (outside of Vshojo who i'm pretty certain amount to a mutual thirst singularity (and also Zen lol)) it actually took me a while into the collab to realize "wait a minute I think these two might actually want to fuck each other". Even if i'm wrong it was still a great time with lots of fun and cute moments; especially nice to see Hana outside the Niji bubble and spending the whole stream giggling and bantering playfully with Ollie. I'd like to see more of her interacting with other non-Niji vtubers and hopefully further building her reach and confidence. Great time, worth a VOD watch for sure.
Hana has talked time about liking girls before. Not yuri bating stuff, but things like "make sure you know they like girls as well before you ask one out" and more sort of boring realities. Ollie wouldn't surprise me if bi.
 
In the same vein as Chris Rock's "Niggas vs. Black People" rant, I feel there's a difference between trans people and Trannies. Regular trans people, who are just trying to live their fucking live as they are comfortable and not trying to evangelize shit (Blair White, Buck Angel, RoseOfDawn as some examples) I'm totally fine with. The second they start with their identity politics bullshit or their sexuality becomes a part of their personality (SonicFox, Artemis, etc) I'm out. It's just as bad as Veibae or any of the other coomer streamers, just they try to shield themselves from it by crying "Muh sexuality".
Agreed, besides just imagine a Dakooters and Gura collab. Two huge and talented memelords in the anime community, with voice acting abilities to boot. That would probably be one of the funniest collabs in HoloLive.

edit: nvm, this hope is crushed, apparently Cover is against allowing "penis havers" into HoloLive
Hana has talked time about liking girls before. Not yuri bating stuff, but things like "make sure you know they like girls as well before you ask one out" and more sort of boring realities. Ollie wouldn't surprise me if bi.
Well I hope Hana and maybe Ollie never have an anti try and mess with them with a doxx. Because that would be pretty dangerous and horrifying given Indonesia's stance on LGBT people, just Googled "lgbt indonesia" and it's not good. And even if the government doesn't come for them (because being gay isn't explicitly illegal), society will given its 9% acceptance rate . In terms of the sexuality of the girls, the Indonesia ones are the ones that greatly matter the most; for them, not us.
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Here's a question for you guys; when EN3 comes around, if Dakooters got in, knowing she's trans, how would you guys feel? Dakooters, if you don't know, IS trans but she's not like the twitter trans chicks who are all about "m'pronouns tho" she's not overly liberal and isn't exactly a snowflake.
I'll okay this if in this hypothetical scenario Artemis talks about buying rope on Twitter after seeing another tranny succeed where they fucked up.
 
Here's a question for you guys; when EN3 comes around, if Dakooters got in, knowing she's trans, how would you guys feel? Dakooters, if you don't know, IS trans but she's not like the twitter trans chicks who are all about "m'pronouns tho" she's not overly liberal and isn't exactly a snowflake.
Depends, i dont know this person but during Irys casting it was implied (and later confirmed iirc in a marshmellow) that penis haver are not going to enter in any way or form to Hololive and rejected on the spot, Female to male was the approach that they were going with the "any gender could apply" so even if the person get doxxed she could be handwaved as a tomboy at best as long as she has not attached a shlong to her body thats it

tl;dr trannies are never going to get in, penis haver are also never going to get in
 
In the same vein as Chris Rock's "Niggas vs. Black People" rant, I feel there's a difference between trans people and Trannies. Regular trans people, who are just trying to live their fucking live as they are comfortable and not trying to evangelize shit (Blair White, Buck Angel, RoseOfDawn as some examples) I'm totally fine with. The second they start with their identity politics bullshit or their sexuality becomes a part of their personality (SonicFox, Artemis, etc) I'm out. It's just as bad as Veibae or any of the other coomer streamers, just they try to shield themselves from it by crying "Muh sexuality".
I agree with this to an extent. Personally, I don't mind transgendered people as long as they don't go full tranny and their mental illness doesn't pollute society. I just don't think we should be encouraging it by accepting it as much as we have.

This may go a bit off topic so forgive me. But I made a comment in a news thread pondering what would be worse for western society: trannies or Islam? Islam is awful for obvious reasons. But I really think the trannies could be the main thing which destroy the first amendment. All in the name of protecting them from "hate speech".

Bringing this back on topic and addressing the question from @Girlboy69. If a transgendered got into Hololive somehow, I'd be very wary about it. If they play it cool, then fine. I hope they build themselves a good community and make lots of money thru entertaining. But if they go full tranny, then kick em out asap before they poison the waterhole.
 
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