On on a different note, as many of you know I was banned from Somethingawful for supporting Rittenhouse’s right to self defense last year. Upon his acquittal I emailed the admin that banned me.
Cyrano,
The Rittenhouse trial has proven out that everything I said over a year ago was accurate.
Your reason for banning me:
“Placing the shooter as the legal and moral center of the Kenosha shooting while treating legal protestors as the problem is wrong on so many levels. From a purely legal, constitutional level - which you seem to value - the shooting of protestors by vigilantes is not remotely justifiable. On a moral level it is completely beyond the pale.
You don’t need to be in this community.”
Indisputable facts after the trial
1) Rittenhouse only shot people attacking him.
a) Rosenbaum said he would kill him and lunged for his gun.
b) Huber repeatedly struck Rittenhouse in the head and neck with a skateboard.
c) Grosskreutz knew Rittenhouse was running towards the police and nonetheless pulled a gun on him, pointed it at him and was then shot.
2) he did not shoot any “peaceful protestors”
The prosecution’s own witnesses backed this up during the trial.
These are facts that were plainly visible in the video evidence available in 2020.
Your reason for banning me is objectively wrong.
I would also note that your handling of this situation left a number of members disenchanted with the forum. Tens of posters across the political spectrum contacted me to tell me that whether they agreed or disagreed with my logic that your handling of the situation was unethical and wrong.
If you have any sense of honesty and fairness you will unban me.
Regards,
His response:
Russel,
I'm not longer an admin. You're going to have to go through the admins to talk about getting the ban reversed. The ban was a decision made by the admin staff as a whole at that time, I wasn't the only voice in that conversation. Bans on that level are done as part of a process that includes all the admins, not any single person. Reversing that decision will likewise take a decision by the current admin staff.
I have CC'd the current admins on this message. I would expect one or more of them to reach out to you in the coming days with some resolution.
On another note, the larger issue - and the one that the community as a whole took offense at - was the notion that it was responsible in any way, shape or form for someone to strap up and drive across town to inject himself in that situation. That was the main point that the thread back then was swirling about, and that was the point that you didn't seem to grasp. Whether or not the shooting was justified in the moment from a purely legal and tactical standpoint, it was morally indefensible for him to arm himself and inject himself into a bad situation. It was irresponsible when he did it, and it was equally irresponsible when that Antifa protester in Seattle took a pistol and shot that other guy.
I will leave whether or not to unban your account to the admins.
--Cyrano
Fluffy’s response:
No.
My response;
Cyrano,
Your argument applies as much to the 3 people Rittenhouse shot as it does to himself. Yet I don’t see any censorship for people supporting those bad actors that engaged in violent conduct.
I see Fluff has said no. So I’ll leave it at that. Enjoy your echo chamber. It will be as dead as Lowtax himself if it continues along it’s self destructive path of silencing dissent.
Regards,
