General GunTuber thread

[Buttigieg2020]

Good for them!

 

[Fools Idol]

I don't buy his excuse that the low pressure training ammo means you don't have to worry about barrel life. These things recoil a shitload with the 80k PSI ammo and you can't train to handle that without a lot of practice with it, it's like saving on money by using a 10/22 to train for shooting an AK, it isn't going to give you habit in handling the recoil characteristics.
Inevitably, they WILL have to train with the high pressure ammo a lot, which is hard to shoot, and high wearing.

It's like he's been fed some talking points by a Sig marketer and just uncritically regurgitates them.

I love that Sig doesn't care about the barrel life but does care about the case deflector to the point were they added a replaceable steel insert.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I love that Sig doesn't care about the barrel life but does care about the case deflector to the point were they added a replaceable steel insert.

Remember that most things about that rifle are not necessarily a result of the manufacturer's ideas, but of all the requirements in our army's frankly retarded procurement system.

 

[Naidyonov]

Huh, turns out "Imahugefuckingfaggot69420" is a pretty easy to guess password. Who'd have thought.

Fell for a phishing email like a boomer. Downloaded an exe and ran it, probably has a Trojan/key logger/RAT now.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Remember that most things about that rifle are not necessarily a result of the manufacturer's ideas, but of all the requirements in our army's frankly retarded procurement system.

Isn't it a combo unit with a brass deflector and forward assist? I see those parts kits on their website. Makes me wonder if the FA is the reason, not the deflector. Did they buy into the fuddlore about them not being necessary, or is the military (or Sig themselves) considering abandoning it for some rifles they want to sell and they want every upper they make to be easily converted?

 

[UVB-76]

I love that Sig doesn't care about the barrel life but does care about the case deflector to the point were they added a replaceable steel insert.

Barrel is supposed to last several thousands of rounds, receiver is supposed to outlive several barrels.
Aluminum would get chewed up by the stainless steel base in a few hundred rounds.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

So Sagedynamics and Roscoe are releasing a barrel with a new gas length that they're calling patrol length. I guess it's supposed to be optimized for silencers on 12.5 barrels which apparently can have trouble with silencers. I don't know a whole a lot about silencers so I don't know if this is a real thing.

 

[White Devil]

So Sagedynamics and Roscoe are releasing a barrel with a new gas length that they're calling patrol length. I guess it's supposed to be optimized for silencers on 12.5 barrels which apparently can have trouble with silencers. I don't know a whole a lot about silencers so I don't know if this is a real thing.

Who's the market for this? Most LEOs if not using a personal rifle are already issued a patrol carbine, and most enthusiasts who know what they're doing will go with a 10.5 inch if they're not already suppressing a 16 inch.

 

[likeacrackado]

Who's the market for this? Most LEOs if not using a personal rifle are already issued a patrol carbine, and most enthusiasts who know what they're doing will go with a 10.5 inch if they're not already suppressing a 16 inch.

12.5 is one if the favorite barrel lengths of the instagram crowd. Long enough that they can put an lpvo on and call it 'mini-recce' and short enough that a full size can won't lengthen it to m16 territory with a k can only puts into 16" rifle territory. Supposedly there's problems with mid-length gas systems on 12.5s so this is probably trying to find a middle ground between that and carbine.

 

[White Devil]

12.5 is one if the favorite barrel lengths of the instagram crowd. Long enough that they can put an lpvo on and call it 'mini-recce' and short enough that a full size can won't lengthen it to m16 territory and a k can only puts into 16" rifle territory. Supposedly there's problems with mid-length gas systems on 12.5s so this is probably trying to find a middle ground between that and carbine.

Ohhh. Right. I forgot about the recce fad with the social media commandos.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

New Paul Harrell video dropped:

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

New Paul Harrell video dropped:

But only combloc AKs are good. Poptart man bad!

 

[HumptiDouji]

12.5 is one if the favorite barrel lengths of the instagram crowd. Long enough that they can put an lpvo on and call it 'mini-recce' and short enough that a full size can won't lengthen it to m16 territory with a k can only puts into 16" rifle territory. Supposedly there's problems with mid-length gas systems on 12.5s so this is probably trying to find a middle ground between that and carbine.

In all fairness, 12.5" is a comfortable carbine length, one you'd see on old CAR15s and what not.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

This is the ideal AR-15 length. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

 

[MCLOS Horthy]

This is the ideal AR-15 length. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

That the thing even cycles at all is astounding.

e: actually, how the hell is it even? The tip of the bullet itself is sticking out, meaning there's no barrel at all for a gas port...?

 

[quaawaa]

That the thing even cycles at all is astounding.

e: actually, how the hell is it even? The tip of the bullet itself is sticking out, meaning there's no barrel at all for a gas port...?

It’s probably blowback. No need to remain locked if all the gas leaves the barrel after the bullet travels an inch.

 

[Corn Flakes]

It’s probably blowback. No need to remain locked if all the gas leaves the barrel after the bullet travels an inch.

On the bright side, that's probably the one short-barreled AR that doesn't flashbang you with every shot. Can't generate concussion if you don't have any gas pressure.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

On the bright side, that's probably the one short-barreled AR that doesn't flashbang you with every shot. Can't generate concussion if you don't have any gas pressure.

Also, its impossible for a squib load to cause a barrel obstruction and catastrophic failure. And any extremely hot round will probably just vent out the front of the barrel, I would figure. The downsides are that you have the accuracy of a musket due to the lack of contact with the rifling.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Also, its impossible for a squib load to cause a barrel obstruction and catastrophic failure. And any extremely hot round will probably just vent out the front of the barrel, I would figure. The downsides are that you have the accuracy of a musket due to the lack of contact with the rifling.

Rifling? What rifling?

I still wouldn't want to be anywhere near the line of fire of that thing, but I doubt you'd be able to hit anything 30 yards out except by sheer luck.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

The downsides are that you have the accuracy of a musket due to the lack of contact with the rifling

They're called home defense firearms.