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When I watch BF's videos, it seems to me that it's him and his friends camping and larping in the desolate Utah wastelands. They're having a lot of good fun. That's not all that relevant to "prepping" though, unless BF's plan is to run to the rocky hills and camp out with his cute dog when the aliens invade or whatever. But in previous videos, he's discussed bugging in -- in his apartment. Does he know his neighbors very well? What are their skills? Are they trustworthy and reliable? Can him and his neighbors fortify the building?
I've never taken BF's videos too seriously, honestly; I've always thought it was pretty obviously a LARP and an excuse to theory craft about unlikely shit anyways because it's fun to do so, and he's seemed rather self-aware about it, at least to me.
 
Isn't military provenance a major contributing factor to HK fanboyism in the first place? Admittedly, I do think the MP5 is cool due to it being featured in so many '80s and '90s action flicks.
Yes but also roller delayed blowback is neat. For pistol rounds it makes a lot of sense. The problem is that SBRs have eliminated virtually every reason to use a 9mm SMG.
 
Cinnabun uses the free wifi at his local KFC to project more doom and gloom since KE Arms is in dire straights due to their GWACS lawsuit.
One of SRs worst traits is his penchant for going around speaking with such authority on stuff he probably knows nothing about...

Meanwhile,
The only discussion him and Karl can create about Desert Tech concerns their religious ties. What a lovely community they have fostered.

Edit: The second screenshot is particularly funny as Karl pleads with his community to "discuss the product in his video" rather than go on these tangents about the companies themselves.
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Their reason for writing off .300 with subs is "better ammo logistics". Idk it might just be me but that's a pretty retarded reason. Unless they're talking about using these guns after societal collapse, which is also retarded.
I mean Henry is always looking at these things from a military perspective. .300blk is still a proprietary cartridge, and will continue to be that. 9mm is everywhere and in every system.
 
I mean Henry is always looking at these things from a military perspective. .300blk is still a proprietary cartridge, and will continue to be that. 9mm is everywhere and in every system.
Ok that makes sense, but then the entire question needs to be prefaced by saying he's considering it from a military perspective. It's a completely moot point for citizens imo.

Edit: I've only seen like two of his videos so if this is just the common understanding with him that's fine too. As a non-viewer I thought he was talking about "bump in the night" home defense type stuff.
 
One of SRs worst traits is his penchant for going around speaking with such authority on stuff he probably knows nothing about...

Meanwhile,
The only discussion him and Karl can create about Desert Tech concerns their religious ties. What a lovely community they have fostered.
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It's funny how if Karl wasn't a freak I dont think anyone would actually care about his satanist shit except fundies... like how it was before he got really public about being a freak and even Ian had to cut ties. Yet these people will go after you for no other reason than you're not a nigger faggot lol.
 
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Real talk though, I've been hoping "accredited" certificate & diploma-mills like SDI get blown-out for soaking guys of their GI Bill & voc rehab-bux. Especially since I've met multiple VA & DAV counselors who funnel folks into useless programs (including SDI), along with those who had been roped in. I don't know if they get kickbacks for signing people up, but it wouldn't surprise me; scamming the VA is a pretty big racket.
 
Their reason for writing off .300 with subs is "better ammo logistics". Idk it might just be me but that's a pretty retarded reason. Unless they're talking about using these guns after societal collapse, which is also retarded.
That's a valid reason in normal conditions. If you want a weapon to be a home defense weapon, you need to shoot it regularly and train to keep proficient. If ammo becomes scarce due to global supply chain issues or price just keeps going up, then you're going to shoot it less and you lose your muscle memory in using it.

Paul Harrell did a video talking about people using what he called "hyper ammo" when guys buy gucchi $2 per round as their carry ammo and don't want to shoot it because it costs too much. If you don't shoot it to train with it, you're not going to be proficient shooting it.

 
The problem is that SBRs have eliminated virtually every reason to use a 9mm SMG.
Pretty much. An 11.5 inch AR-15 is only a few inches longer than a MP5 yet the AR-15 is going to be significantly more effective at putting someone down and significantly more accurate at range.

Now a SMGs only niche is ultra compact type firearm(think TP-9 or MP5K).
It's funny how if Karl wasn't a freak I dont think anyone would actually care about his satanist shit except fundies...
You should always hate and ridicule satanist. Their entire purpose is to tear down the establishment and replace it with retarded marxist hedonism.
 
You should always hate and ridicule satanist. Their entire purpose is to tear down the establishment and replace it with retarded marxist hedonism.
I always think what if the right got together and started ironically worshiping Hitler to do the same sort of shit that Satanism does to Christianity but only to Gay Race Communism, how would the left react? That's the exact level of freakout I give to Satanism.
 
One of SRs worst traits is his penchant for going around speaking with such authority on stuff he probably knows nothing about...

Meanwhile,
The only discussion him and Karl can create about Desert Tech concerns their religious ties. What a lovely community they have fostered.

Edit: The second screenshot is particularly funny as Karl pleads with his community to "discuss the product in his video" rather than go on these tangents about the companies themselves.
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So Karl and the Fattie's argument basically boils down to 'yeah, they might fuck kids, but they don't put it in their advertisements'. Absolute clownshow, but I'm not surprised that both of them are carrying water for kiddy diddlers.
 
when guys buy gucchi $2 per round as their carry ammo and don't want to shoot it because it costs too much.
I could be wrong but aren't you supposed to buy training ammo for the vast majority of your training? I never said it was as cheap as 9mm I was just trying to say using the term "ammo logistics" to completely write off .300 is a weak argument*.

*For the average citizen
 
I could be wrong but aren't you supposed to buy training ammo for the vast majority of your training? I never said it was as cheap as 9mm I was just trying to say using the term "ammo logistics" to completely write off .300 is a weak argument*.

*For the average citizen
Yes, you are wrong.

Lower power, cheap ammo is marketed as target and training ammo for those who want to shoot cheaply hence ammo makers market it as such. Yeah you can train with weaker, low power target ammo but if it isn't what your weapon you intend to defend you aren't doing yourself any favors. If you shoot enough you can definitely tell the difference between between weaker loads and self defense loads. If you can't tell the difference, then you don't shoot enough.

That said if you want to use target ammo for a class because it helps keep your training costs cheap, I won't judge; but if you intend to constantly train with target ammo and swap in the high powered load when you get home without ever shooting it, then I will.
 
Yes, you are wrong.

Lower power, cheap ammo is marketed as target and training ammo for those who want to shoot cheaply hence ammo makers market it as such. Yeah you can train with weaker, low power target ammo but if it isn't what your weapon you intend to defend you aren't doing yourself any favors. If you shoot enough you can definitely tell the difference between between weaker loads and self defense loads. If you can't tell the difference, then you don't shoot enough.

That said if you want to use target ammo for a class because it helps keep your training costs cheap, I won't judge; but if you intend to constantly train with target ammo and swap in the high powered load when you get home without ever shooting it, then I will.
I might be missing what you're saying, but IMO the most important part of training with your expensive defense ammo is making sure it runs well in the gun you're using it in. As long as you shoot it enough to make sure it cycles reliably then doing the bulk of your training with cheap ammo is a good idea. A small difference in recoil for the high-test stuff won't make much practical difference in terms of how quickly you can make follow-up shots.
 
Just an interesting bit of trivia on the MP7. in the 1970's after there the IRA started 'fundraising' in the Republic of Ireland via bank robberies and extortion, the Garda(police) procured a batch of UZI's from Israel, which were issued en masse to plain clothes officers. There was apparently no procurement process, they just picked them seemingly because the Israelis did a good sales pitch and offered quick delivery.

When the UZI's were retired in the 2000's, I honestly believe the reason they settled on the MP7 was because it looked like an UZI. There was a procurement process this time and I also think that H&K who are notoriously difficult to deal with, had some sort of mental connection with the Irish dept of Justice civil servants who are also notorious dickheads.

However what ended up happening was that few Garda Detectives ended up qualifying with the MP7, I believe they never changed the actual qualification shoot from the days of the UZI, which involved firing a lot of rounds, and the MP7 struggled, the longer range performance and body armour penetration wasn't demonstrated in qual. The Detectives hated it, and most gave up trying, as they were happy with the Walther Pistols (which were easy to qualify with because the qual was designed for S&W snub nosed revolvers).

Anyway currently the only ones that use them are the Emergency Response Units, which kind of suits everybody because the Armed role moved from plain clothes to the uniformed officers.

What I'm saying is that the MP7 has a lot of problems, yet was the perfect weapon for one particular nation.
 
It's funny how if Karl wasn't a freak I dont think anyone would actually care about his satanist shit except fundies... like how it was before he got really public about being a freak and even Ian had to cut ties. Yet these people will go after you for no other reason than you're not a nigger faggot lol.
I miss when Satanists were people who were in black metal bands instead of they/them's that cry about things they find problematic.
 
That said if you want to use target ammo for a class because it helps keep your training costs cheap, I won't judge; but if you intend to constantly train with target ammo and swap in the high powered load when you get home without ever shooting it, then I will.
Nigga, why tf would I make a habit of shooting ammo that's 3X+ the cost of training ammo? Maybe you can afford to blow a case of HSTs, but more than 100 rounds to make sure they work is just pissing money away.
If you're talking the same caliber and it's not a massive power difference, it's all transferrable enough that you'll be fine.
I'd rather get my skillz through higher volumes than have less skills and less money by blasting carry ammo.

Not everybody can train as much or shoot as expensive of ammo, but past a point the diminishing returns seem to get kinda high. Sometimes you just gotta settle with a Dagger and a case of ball instead of a Glock and no ammo.
 
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