General GunTuber thread

Seems like a complete waste of a javelin from an r&d stand point. Whoever in the russian government let that dude acquire one and piss it away on already cannibalized bmp is a retard. You'd think they would be using it to test defensive systems or vehicle designs. But nope
It’s obviously for propaganda purposes for the troops. Blyat have no fear! Western missile suck balls like Dimitri in trench! It’s just like the mud tests where they spastically had to do their own videos because nyet AK is fine and prove Karl and Ian wrong. Even before the Ukraine invasion I thought Russia was a global contender and could reshape global order with the invasion after stabilizing Syria. Alas how video games really over sold Russia.

In February, Russia was claiming to have more Javelins than the entire British military.
Objectively true because they gave just about everything away to Ukraine. Even the UK’s nuclear sub program is falling apart. The Brits were more than happy to feed their own men in Ukraine to the Russians when all they could have fielded was maybe a months loss over there. Trump was right when he told the EU off in 2018 I want to say and they just laughed at him.
 
The Brits were more than happy to feed their own men in Ukraine to the Russians when all they could have fielded was maybe a months loss over there. Trump was right when he told the EU off in 2018 I want to say and they just laughed at him.
I really wish I understood where the Euros heads were at on this play-pretend war they seem to be trying to run? They seem incredibly eager to pledge their boys into some bizarre limited-engagement in Ukraine that is destined to be a meat grinder that will leave the Russians MORE prepared for the invasion of Western Europe they all insist is happening any minute.
 
I really wish I understood where the Euros heads were at on this play-pretend war they seem to be trying to run? They seem incredibly eager to pledge their boys into some bizarre limited-engagement in Ukraine that is destined to be a meat grinder that will leave the Russians MORE prepared for the invasion of Western Europe they all insist is happening any minute.
Well you see Europeans, being a lower, degenerated form of white people (like the German Shepherds with the fucked up back legs) are very retarded and are prone to political and strategic blunders and miscalculations and delusions of relevance, importance, sovereignty and national prestige. It does not help that many of them are stuck in the Cold War AND have the most persuasive agents of the Kievan Kabal whispering in their ears. In short, Europeans are retarded, genuinely believe their own bullshit, have a pathological hatred of Russia and have chained themselves to a gang of corrupt politicians and Nazi larpers who are determined to set all their money and military equipment on fire before throwing it into the black hole that is the Donetsk front.
 
Anyone seen this channel before? A Russian 1.9M sub guntuber testing out real captured American Javelins and Russian Kornet missiles against an old BMP.
Not exactly a mystery where he got the equipment from (In his channel desc he has a Russian Bloggers License) but its always fascinating to see what happens on the other side of the NATO wall. Same with Valgear, who has also acquired and tested some incredible military unobtanium on the Ukraine side.

"Javelin Loses to Kornet | BMP Penetration Test" (Link) (Archive)

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The javelin fails to hit the target and the Kornet of course destroys the vehicle in a single hit. Not able to tell if its Russian Bias or a Javelin design flaw.
Need a camo/uniform autist to identify the specific pattern/plate carrier. To my untrained eye it kinda looks like Crye but idk. I always find it fascinating when you see countries that don't exactly like the US yet still use US kit (Peltors, body armor, Mechanix gloves, EOTechs etc).

Channel Link: Крупнокалиберный Переполох/Large-caliber Fracture?
He also has some other good videos of him testing the butterfly antipersonnel mines, Driving a captured Leopard 2A4 and Russian developmental AP AK rounds.
Videos can be Auto-Dubbed but the AI doesn't sound great. PreserveTube does not save subtitles or the AI dub so that will be a bit of an issue if the channel gets shoah'd
He's very obviously a Russian propaganda channel so any and all of his videos should be taken with a mine's worth of salt. From the few videos I've watched he consistently, if not intentionally, misuses the NATO weapon and then draws the conclusion that western weaponry is garbage. In short: he's a Russian state sponsored propagandist.
 
I really wish I understood where the Euros heads were at on this play-pretend war they seem to be trying to run? They seem incredibly eager to pledge their boys into some bizarre limited-engagement in Ukraine that is destined to be a meat grinder that will leave the Russians MORE prepared for the invasion of Western Europe they all insist is happening any minute.
They won’t admit it but I feel it’s all about dragging the US in to fight their fights they’re refusing to even take seriously. Germany will say they want to be tough on Putin, refuse to arm up because of WW2, pay for Russian gas while listening to the climate change agenda that’s entirely a Russian op to get them to stay reliant on Russian gas. Britain has historically been the main counter balance to what happens on the continent but its military is being disassembled to fund Muslims on welfare and advance replacing its own populace. French is probably the only decent capable military given the state of Europe as it is but that’s not saying a lot. And then there’s Russia which has decided to jump on the import more jeets bandwagon, essentially lost its space program in a latest mishap, and has its most vocal supporters be expats living in the West while refusing any call to come fight.

So it’s split between the EU wanting a war it can’t fight or take seriously, Russia which absolutely won’t go for peace or else it’ll lose face all while Trump wants peace and is getting hamstrung by congressional GOP more than happy to lose the midterms than do anything. And in the middle is Ukraine which knows everyone is going to be asking some awkward questions about where billions of dollars went after the war ends. And all this while men are dying in trenches for tiny footholds of gains on both sides.
 
Seems like a complete waste of a javelin from an r&d stand point. Whoever in the russian government let that dude acquire one and piss it away on already cannibalized bmp is a retard. You'd think they would be using it to test defensive systems or vehicle designs. But nope.
Not really. If they have javs to spare they can give one to the retard. Once you know the limits of the missile in ballistics terms you don't even really need it anymore. The launch system will have similar fidelity as the missile it's self and the Javelin doesn't have IRCCM. So you can simulate it fairly easily once you take it apart and run your initial tests.
 
They won’t admit it but I feel it’s all about dragging the US in to fight their fights they’re refusing to even take seriously. Germany will say they want to be tough on Putin, refuse to arm up because of WW2, pay for Russian gas while listening to the climate change agenda that’s entirely a Russian op to get them to stay reliant on Russian gas. Britain has historically been the main counter balance to what happens on the continent but its military is being disassembled to fund Muslims on welfare and advance replacing its own populace. French is probably the only decent capable military given the state of Europe as it is but that’s not saying a lot. And then there’s Russia which has decided to jump on the import more jeets bandwagon, essentially lost its space program in a latest mishap, and has its most vocal supporters be expats living in the West while refusing any call to come fight.

So it’s split between the EU wanting a war it can’t fight or take seriously, Russia which absolutely won’t go for peace or else it’ll lose face all while Trump wants peace and is getting hamstrung by congressional GOP more than happy to lose the midterms than do anything. And in the middle is Ukraine which knows everyone is going to be asking some awkward questions about where billions of dollars went after the war ends. And all this while men are dying in trenches for tiny footholds of gains on both sides.

The EU but particularly France, Germany, and the UK want a world war but want to force America to be on the ground floor of it, because the last two World Wars had America hanging back until Europe was nearly wiped out (WW1) or conquered (WW2) and allowed to reap all sorts of power and control over Europe in the aftermath. If they can force America on the ground when the war starts however, then Europe can irreversibly fuck the US up so they suffer along with the rest of Europe.
 
I really wish I understood where the Euros heads were at on this play-pretend war they seem to be trying to run? They seem incredibly eager to pledge their boys into some bizarre limited-engagement in Ukraine that is destined to be a meat grinder that will leave the Russians MORE prepared for the invasion of Western Europe they all insist is happening any minute.
Because they want the native population gone and will use or engineer any situation that can further that.
Proxy War with Russia = Dead Young Men = Room for more Niggers
 
Is there really a gun culture in China of all places? I doubt they have any sort of personal gun ownership laws when they can't even take a piss without it impacting their social score.
Kind of. Chinese peasants would routinely go to war with each other over old blood fueds. In the 90s it reached up to like 5000 people battling it out and some had cannons until Beijing cracked down and put a stopto future attempts.
 
Just got around to watching Ian on unsubscribe. It went exactly how you'd expect.

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Even the UK’s nuclear sub program is falling apart.
I have to disagree on this. Despite the efforts of the media-political homunculus, the sub fleet is still the least corrupted part of the fleet and is still staffed primarily by white british. The only evidence it's "falling apart" are two missile tests after vessel refits, both of which used American test articles - one of which went off course, and one of which failed to launch. There was never an official explanation for either failure. The targeting failure was obviously most likely operator error. The failed launch could have been any number of number of things, but was most likely a failure of the article itself. We'll find out in about 60 years when the reports are declassified.

That said, all of this is likely to change in the next few years as the current government attempts to dismantle everything. Controlled demolition is such a 2010s concept. We're in full-blown bounce the rubble mode now.
 
I have to disagree on this. Despite the efforts of the media-political homunculus, the sub fleet is still the least corrupted part of the fleet and is still staffed primarily by white british.
To add, two main reasons why the current availability rates for the subs are rather abysmal have same main driving issue, which is the lack of money.

The early 2000s supposed naval bills got cut and less ships overall were built, this was followed by the early 2010s cuts that further removed ships in use, again due to falling budgets. So they ended up with submarine fleet with not that many subs in the first place, which forces them to be used and pushed harder and longer which unsurprisingly is bad for maintenance.

And with that we get to the second point. Someone had the fantastic idea to only have a single submarine rated drydock in Faslane. That created this maintenance bottleneck where both the nuke subs and attack subs have to wait for their turn and of course the nuke subs get the priority. Still they end up pulling 200+ day deterrence patrols because otherwise maintenance can't keep up. Thankfully Faslane did get more budget and they are building/retrofitting a second drydock. That should help them a lot.
 
From the few videos I've watched he consistently, if not intentionally, misuses the NATO weapon and then draws the conclusion that western weaponry is garbage
I was cringing watching them demonstrating that Bradley can't turn in place. They were doing equivalent of clutch kicking (it's auto trans, right?), I'm sure transmission loved it. In reality Bradley can do it on a dime, unless something was fucked since it's a captured example.
Here's a video of Bradley doing a neutral turn:

Here's them abusing the drivetrain (9:47):
 
Isn't being able to do a neutral turn required for wester armor due to the envisionment of heavy use of shoot and scoot between prepared positions during WW3?
No, why would you do a neutral turn and expose your side? Fast reverse on the other hand, is. This is not the case with T-series of tanks though, because "not one step backwards!".

T-72 reverse speed is 4km/h (2.5 mp/h), on comparison, with a Leopard 2 that is 31 km/h (19 mp/h), and Abrams and Challenger 2 are even faster. And by the way, this still isn't that much better with the T-90M, which allegedly by Russian claims, can achieve the whopping reverse speed of 10 km/h! So 4 times that of the T-72, but still 3 times slower than NATO tanks.

So you don't really do shoot and scoot with Russian tanks. Which BTW, is pretty standard with modern armour tactics around the world. About as essential as fire and movement with infantry.
 
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What's the point of jockeying on modern battlefield? Once a drone spots you better pray that your cope cage holds up and the APS keeps up.
Drones are not the only part of the battlefield yet. There is still infantry, there are still armoured vehicles, artillery and whatnot. And those armoured vehicles are always susceptible to direct fire. Just because a drone can kill you, doesn't mean you can just ignore ATGMs does it? Same goes for infantry. Just because a drone can hit you at any time, doesn't mean you should stick your head out of the trench for an enemy marksman.

I will also say, people should not overestimate the effectiveness of drones in warfare just because of Ukraine. They have proven very useful in the current war because of the terrain, the inability of neither side to really conduct combined arms warfare, both sides using WW2 tactics for artillery etc. And because it's just an overall trench warfare. The frontline hasn't moved all that much since the fall of 2022 (and for those of calling for political sperging: it's merely to prove the point that neither side is crushing it):
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Don't get me wrong, drones are here to stay, and you'll see plenty of footage nowadays from NATO militaries adopting drones and anti-drone capabilities of various sorts. Finland has already begun to train conscripts to become FPV-drone pilots for an example.

But that doesn't mean that artillery, armour, and infantry has suddenly become useless. It's just that when both sides are more and more forced to do half platoon level operations, drones are a very efficient way of dealing damage. If it was an armoured column and a few mechanized battalions like at the start of the invasion, your drones are better served for directing fire for actual artillery and heavier weapons.
 
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