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SinistralRifleman said:
It certainly beats talking shit on the internet and shooting at trash in the gravel pit.

The ability to shoot fast and accurately is never a bad thing. And if you can’t handle the stress of the clock in public, and some physical exertion degrades your marksmanship appreciably I don’t know how you’d expect to do well in combat.

If you get mentally defeated and can’t perform because you’re tired and sore on the clock how can you expect to do well in combat. if weather conditions destroy your will to win at an 4-8 hour match, how can you expect to maintain fighting mindset over the course of days, weeks, months? Watching peoples mindset and psychology degrade at matches under a mild amount of stress and perhaps public embarrassment is very enlightening.
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Give me a guy who can start a fire, tie knots, fish, obtain clean water, crawl for a mile without making noise but doesn't know how to shoot, and I'll train him with the trash in the gravel pit.
 
SinistralRifleman said:
It certainly beats talking shit on the internet and shooting at trash in the gravel pit.

The ability to shoot fast and accurately is never a bad thing. And if you can’t handle the stress of the clock in public, and some physical exertion degrades your marksmanship appreciably I don’t know how you’d expect to do well in combat.

If you get mentally defeated and can’t perform because you’re tired and sore on the clock how can you expect to do well in combat. if weather conditions destroy your will to win at an 4-8 hour match, how can you expect to maintain fighting mindset over the course of days, weeks, months? Watching peoples mindset and psychology degrade at matches under a mild amount of stress and perhaps public embarrassment is very enlightening.
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You're not even wrong but I'd like to see you guys incorporate real world scenarios like an ambush or IMT's into your training regime. There is also a lack of small unit tactics on display, I know you guys have done various courses but this type of stuff isn't real you can learn in a week or whatever.

I know that you're hamstrung by safety concerns, the practicalities of running a competition and the law but if your goal is soldiering then you're off the mark. It's funny but being a soldier is as much about shitting in a MRE bag next to your mate as it is about shooting people.

At the end of the day we're all just talking shit.
 
UVB-76 said:
Give me a guy who can start a fire, tie knots, fish, obtain clean water, crawl for a mile without making noise but doesn't know how to shoot, and I'll train him with the trash in the gravel pit.
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Give me a guy who can start a fire, tie knots, fish, obtain clean water, crawl for a mile without making noise and knows how to handle a gun well enough not to shoot me, the other people, or himself in the gravel pit, and I'll take that one instead.

Whether or not on-the-clock competition shooting helps (it doesn't), there's literally no downside to a population that's familiar with guns if you need to raise a lot of militia/territorial defense troops quickly. Every minute not spent teaching your merry band of butchers, bakers and candlestick makers which end of the gun should point towards the enemy is a minute you can spend teaching them how to keep their head down or how aim the damn rocket launcher.
 
Corn Flakes said:
and knows how to handle a gun well enough not to shoot me
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Touché. Yeah it's kind of a false dichotomy but my point is how little the type of range matters. There's a lot more to soldiering that can't be taught in a rush, while a gun familiarization course can be done in two days. Could be at the Blackwater training facility or the local gravel pit.
If anything, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers who never touched a gun wouldn't even be the hardest to train. It's the lawyers, accountants and marketing types with shooting competition experience that are going to be a nightmare due to training scars and ego.
 
UVB-76 said:
Touché. Yeah it's kind of a false dichotomy but my point is how little the type of range matters. There's a lot more to soldiering that can't be taught in a rush, while a gun familiarization course can be done in two days. Could be at the Blackwater training facility or the local gravel pit.
If anything, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers who never touched a gun wouldn't even be the hardest to train. It's the lawyers, accountants and marketing types with shooting competition experience that are going to be a nightmare due to training scars and ego.
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No the hardest to train would be the guys who did 4 years in the Army and think they already know everything.
 
SinistralRifleman said:
It certainly beats talking shit on the internet and shooting at trash in the gravel pit.

The ability to shoot fast and accurately is never a bad thing. And if you can’t handle the stress of the clock in public, and some physical exertion degrades your marksmanship appreciably I don’t know how you’d expect to do well in combat.

If you get mentally defeated and can’t perform because you’re tired and sore on the clock how can you expect to do well in combat. if weather conditions destroy your will to win at an 4-8 hour match, how can you expect to maintain fighting mindset over the course of days, weeks, months? Watching peoples mindset and psychology degrade at matches under a mild amount of stress and perhaps public embarrassment is very enlightening.
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How to say you've never been shot at without saying you've never been shot at.

If anything, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers who never touched a gun wouldn't even be the hardest to train. It's the lawyers, accountants and marketing types with shooting competition experience that are going to be a nightmare due to training scars and ego.
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It's easier if you have no bad habits to break, unlike gamer faggots who shoot two or three times, then drop a mag out of sheer habit. There was one department that had a gamer train their officers and they developed stupid habits like that, I'm trying to remember which one... Anyway because dipshit thought he was an actual trainer despite no combat or LE experience, he got a few officers shot because they were trained to fire X amount of times, drop their mags, and reload. A shoot out while on the job is one thing, but can you imagine going into actual combat like that?
 
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White Devil said:
It's easier if you have no bad habits to break, unlike gamer faggots who shoot two or three times, then drop a mag out of sheer habit. There was one department that had a gamer train their officers and they developed stupid habits like that, I'm trying to remember which one... Anyway because dipshit thought he was an actual trainer despite no combat or LE experience, he got a few officers shot because they were trained to fire X amount of times, drop their mags, and reload. A shoot out while on the job is one thing, but can you imagine going into actual combat like that?
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Sounds like bullshit bro
 
Antarctica said:
That's exactly what he's doing, unfortunately. He would rather die in a war that he probably doesn't even care about, than slowly die from a decease that brings nothing but anguish and embarrassment. Can't say I blame him.
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Hope he remembers he's supposed to let them kill him. Cause I'm getting the Story of Biorn vibes here, minus he being a warrior [sarcasm mode on] worthy of gazing about Valhalla.
 
White Devil said:
unlike gamer faggots who shoot two or three times, then drop a mag out of sheer habit
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Funny you mention that, a month or two ago Lucas from Trex arms disavowed 1-R-1 drills.
Speaking of which, what has he been up to?
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What the fuck?
 
So I haven't been able to find an article in question but I did find this which raises good points :
Corn Flakes said:
Whether or not on-the-clock competition shooting helps (it doesn't), there's literally no downside to a population that's familiar with guns if you need to raise a lot of militia/territorial defense troops quickly. Every minute not spent teaching your merry band of butchers, bakers and candlestick makers which end of the gun should point towards the enemy is a minute you can spend teaching them how to keep their head down or how aim the damn rocket launcher.
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WinchesterPremium said:
Sounds like bullshit bro
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UVB-76 said:
Funny you mention that, a month or two ago Lucas from Trex arms disavowed 1-R-1 drills.
Speaking of which, what has he been up to?
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What the fuck?
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White Devil said:
How to say you've never been shot at without saying you've never been shot at.


It's easier if you have no bad habits to break, unlike gamer faggots who shoot two or three times, then drop a mag out of sheer habit. There was one department that had a gamer train their officers and they developed stupid habits like that, I'm trying to remember which one... Anyway because dipshit thought he was an actual trainer despite no combat or LE experience, he got a few officers shot because they were trained to fire X amount of times, drop their mags, and reload. A shoot out while on the job is one thing, but can you imagine going into actual combat like that?
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That sounds like bullshit but cops are retarded...
wopirish said:
42A right out of BLC. Insufferable cunts lol
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They're like that before BLC too and long after.
UVB-76 said:
Funny you mention that, a month or two ago Lucas from Trex arms disavowed 1-R-1 drills.
Speaking of which, what has he been up to?
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What the fuck?
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He was actually just on the Art and War podcast.
Rambling about the pedophilia rate in the LBGT community and about how we'll see a genocide in the US in the next 20 years.
 
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