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Shaka Brah said:
When it comes to the Osprey in particular, I'm pretty sure those things have killed more Hawaiian Marines than the Iraq War did. They crash so often it's insane that anyone still lets them get in the air. Even with modernizations and safety improvements there's at least 1 fatal crash per year just out of Hawaiian bases.
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I somehow missed that the Osprey was a death trap.

SinistralRifleman said:
I cannot publicly comment on an ongoing legal situation.
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Well, good luck with that.

Full Spectrum said:
To give you some background on who I am, I run a tiny Youtube channel by the same name.
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Big fan of those videos, very comprehensive.
 
Shaka Brah said:
The Navy almost has the opposite problem and I'm not sure why that is. A lot of their new cutting edge equipment is dogshit and plagued by lifetime reliability issues due to jumping too deep into untested waters (though I guess calling a 30 year old airframe "cutting edge" is wrong now, but it was right when they were introduced). The Osprey, the Littoral Combat Ship, even Rebreathers (these things are great when they work, but they have to be stored really well or the chemicals decompose and you can't tell they don't work).
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Yeah, I agree. For the actual procurement guys for the Surface Navy, it's been a shitshow since the Clinton Era. The Little Crappy Ships, the Ford Class, and the unholy abomination that was the Zumwalt class. I guess I am going to rant a bit, sorry.


The Littoral Combat Ships were wildly over designed for one of the tasks that they were supposed to perform, which was largely anti-piracy and smuggling duties. A task already handled quite well, and much more efficiently by the Corvettes which usually performed such tasks (such as the Cyclone-class).

Yet, it was radically incapable of handling its other main mission: being a flexible ship capable of anti-mine, anti-submarine, light amphibious operations, and limited surface warfare capabilities. The largest problem was that it could conduct only one of those missions at a time, and had to go to dock to change that mission. It also had a rather poor sensor package, incapable of beyond line of sight engagement until the Fire Scout drones came a decade later. In the end they decided to dedicate groups of these vessels to a single specific mission each. The amphibious warfare idea was dropped altogether.

So yes, the LCS was a ship that was supposed to operate in enemy coastal waters, without the ability to defend itself from more than one pre-determined threat profile at a time.

This is to say nothing of the fact that this isn't a single ship class, its two ship classes. Because why would we want parts, crew, and servicing commonalities? Maintenance issues were horrendous on both classes, repeated engine failures on the Freedom-class and systemic galvanic corrosion on the Independence class among the many notable issues.

We have built, building, or ordered 38 of these damn cursed ships. And what are they useful for? Being a glorified and many times more expensive Sentinel class, sitting out there in the gulf doing anti-smuggler work.

At least the FREMM based Constellation-class frigate looks to be a decent design that can actually defend itself and others in an actual warship capacity.

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Well, shit... this post is getting kinda long and I haven't even touched on the Zumwalt and Ford. I'll come back and hit those later.
 
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BONE_Buddy said:
Yeah, I agree. For the actual procurement guys for the Surface Navy, it's been a shitshow since the Clinton Era. The Little Crappy Ships, the Ford Class, and the unholy abomination that was the Zumwalt class. I guess I am going to rant a bit, sorry.


The Littoral Combat Ships were wildly over designed for one of the tasks that they were supposed to perform, which was largely anti-piracy and smuggling duties. A task already handled quite well, and much more efficiently by the Corvettes which usually performed such tasks (such as the Cyclone-class).

Yet, it was radically incapable of handling its other main mission: being a flexible ship capable of anti-mine, anti-submarine, light amphibious operations, and limited surface warfare capabilities. The largest problem was that it could conduct only one of those missions at a time, and had to go to dock to change that mission. It also had a rather poor sensor package, incapable of beyond line of sight engagement until the Fire Scout drones came a decade later. In the end they decided to dedicate groups of these vessels to a single specific mission each. The amphibious warfare idea was dropped altogether.

So yes, the LCS was a ship that was supposed to operate in enemy coastal waters, without the ability to defend itself from more than one pre-determined threat profile at a time.

This is to say nothing of the fact that this isn't a single ship class, its two ship classes. Because why would we want parts, crew, and servicing commonalities? Maintenance issues were horrendous on both classes, repeated engine failures on the Freedom-class and systemic galvanic corrosion on the Independence class among the many notable issues.

We have built, building, or ordered 38 of these damn cursed ships. And what are they useful for? Being a glorified and many times more expensive Sentinel class, sitting out there in the gulf doing anti-smuggler work.

At least the FREMM based Constellation-class frigate looks to be a decent design that can actually defend itself and others in an actual warship capacity.

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Well, shit... this post is getting kinda long and I haven't even touched on the Zumwalt and Ford. I'll come back and hit those later.
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This is a problem with our military, they want one thing that can do everything then shrug and ignore the issue when it can't do anything.
 
White Devil said:
This is a problem with our military, they want one thing that can do everything then shrug and ignore the issue when it can't do anything.
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That or they want something that's hyper-focused and only does one thing well, but it's a thing that they'll never have to do within the platform lifetime of whatever they asked for (all the money they spent on outfitting Pentomic Divisions in the 50s-60s for example). Or when it's finally done and all the graft has been made, it doesn't do that thing well (like the LCS).
 
Slightly off topic but has anyone else been getting bombarded with BRCC ads? New Ads too. Wonder if it has anything to do with going public. Also does anyone else have a suspicion that BRCC is maneuvering towards some larger goal? I mean going public, throwing cash around with Guntubers, Money for new Ads. Things like that are not for nothing.
Archie_Kimkicker said:
Too many democrats in the San Anton metro?
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Probably wanted to be literally as close as possible to Demo Ranch for collaborations. I think many will agree with me that Herrera is largely a more grown up Demo Ranch with a bent towards AKs and a small amount of Engineering, so I think it likely that further cooperation is going to lead to him being another rung on the ladder for young gunspergs.
 
AGPinochet said:
Slightly off topic but has anyone else been getting bombarded with BRCC ads? New Ads too. Wonder if it has anything to do with going public. Also does anyone else have a suspicion that BRCC is maneuvering towards some larger goal? I mean going public, throwing cash around with Guntubers, Money for new Ads. Things like that are not for nothing.

Probably wanted to be literally as close as possible to Demo Ranch for collaborations. I think many will agree with me that Herrera is largely a more grown up Demo Ranch with a bent towards AKs and a small amount of Engineering, so I think it likely that further cooperation is going to lead to him being another rung on the ladder for young gunspergs.
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I don't see adds because I use an adblocker like you should be doing.
 
AGPinochet said:
Slightly off topic but has anyone else been getting bombarded with BRCC ads? New Ads too. Wonder if it has anything to do with going public. Also does anyone else have a suspicion that BRCC is maneuvering towards some larger goal? I mean going public, throwing cash around with Guntubers, Money for new Ads. Things like that are not for nothing.
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Not just that but they are opening physical coffee shops too, and there definitely a larger goal: to make a lot of money.

The stock is up 199% since going public so it seems there plan is working.
 
I was always under the impression they were some small coffee company that strategically pushed for trump to get the boomercon demo. Do they have large investors? If they do it should be a red flag for people but then again anything "right wing" that gets popular is artificial with the same wealthy investors.
If the email leaks are anything to go by, its run by opportunists who hate their clientele but, again, boomer cons are retarded.
 
Smoke Manmuscle said:
founder is literally a CIA fag
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They should just rename it to CIA Nigger Coffee, they can have a gimmick where the coffee glows in the dark after you make it.
I frankly just figure anything that's ""PATRIOTIC"" or ""PRO-AMERICAN"" and gets any positive coverage at all is just astro-turfed.
There's more to being patriotic than the stars and bars, sadly that's all you have to do to sell something to conservatives, just wave a flag around and say you love the second amendment. You don't even have to do anything to actually support it, just say you do. Just look at the NRA!
 
Profilmenn said:
They should just rename it to CIA Nigger Coffee, they can have a gimmick where the coffee glows in the dark after you make it.
I frankly just figure anything that's ""PATRIOTIC"" or ""PRO-AMERICAN"" and gets any positive coverage at all is just astro-turfed.
There's more to being patriotic than the stars and bars, sadly that's all you have to do to sell something to conservatives, just wave a flag around and say you love the second amendment. You don't even have to do anything to actually support it, just say you do. Just look at the NRA!
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Their reaction to the Rittenhouse case is proof enough of their grift. They support guns as a fashion statement, not as a tool of self-defense.
 
Brandon looks like an early 90s wrestler getting fat on booze and codeine.
 
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