Phagan, like I said you spend an awful lot of time carrying water for people who either don't care about what is being said on Kiwifarms or don't want to defend themselves. You put your nose into places it does not belong. You and the company you own are named specifically in that lawsuit. Ian and Karl are not. Even Karl is smart enough not to stick his nose in that situation. You consistently want people to like you and you will do whatever it takes to get those likes.
Karl is well aware of Kiwifarms and the comments herein. He chooses not to defend himself and to tell you the truth kudos on him. Here we are though, with Phagan dueling it out for his honor. It is his honor not yours. You are stating things for him. You are making excuses for him.
This is the kind of half wit comment one would expect. It is not half wit because you are stupid but, because you only put half your wit into it. In recent memory a certain actor/producer killed one person and injured another from a firearm that was "unloaded". "it just went off" right? The idiot in that case is hiding behind it was an accident but, we all know it was a preventable accident. Just don't point guns at people. Guntubers make it a general principle to show the camera a clear chamber to help ease the audiences safety concerns. It is not needed as it is not a live show. Guntubers as a rule go to extreme lengths not to muzzle the camera. No bullet is going to come out of your monitor. One of the reasons they do things like this is to promote safe firearm handling practices. Throwing firearms around like a basketball kind of invalidates that idea.
Karl, in those two specific incidents, did things that no coach, trainer, parent, or friend would ever condone. Karl's two gun action challenge is a mixture of two different disciplines. He mixes these because he believes that unholstering and holstering a handgun adds an unsafe element to the match. He then chucks a firearm over his shoulder to make a point. I will level the charge of hypocrite to the mix. Phagan and yourself seem to think it was the dumspter video that was the most egregious. Quite honestly, that was weird. It was the chucking of the handgun over his shoulder that is an example of Karl getting angry and doing stupid shit. Other videos exist of him being a sperg I was just using that as an example.
One of the reasons why Phagan is being sued is he is alleged to have helped facilitate the transfer of intellectual property from Shawn Nealon to KE Arms. Intellectual property that did not belong to Shawn Nealon and KE Arms had no right to purchase. Also, it is alleged that Phagan lied when he sold "ALL" the intellectual property of the CAV-15 lower to GWACS. So in other words you cannot trust a word that Phagan makes. Care to comment Phagan?