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Fools Idol said:
You can nigger-rig together a shitty tube gun with nothing more than a vice, angle grinder, hammer, drill (preferably a bench drill), a welder and some measuring and scribing tools. Tube stock is already a basic receiver and you could make a trunnion out of bar stock with some holes drilled into it.

I know it sounds like a lot, but it's really only just basic garage tools and the right materials.
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Or you can do something that's close to factory accurate with $250 and some plastic for a loss of durability in your apartment. It's not hard to see why printing caught on. What you're describing has been possible since home power tools were a thing. The market is at saturation. The people who want to do that already do that and have their own cliques.
3D printing is new and growing. We went from the Liberator to the FGC9 and tons of very durable AR lowers in a decade. It'll run out of steam and stagnate, but that'll be a few years yet.
 
Puff said:
It's more than two mags to get a point of aim drop. It'll die before you melt it visibly. I can't remember how many mags they got on PLA+ before it just shits itself.

And on sheet metal fab... Most people don't have the money or space for the equipment. 3-D printers take a few cubic feet.
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A plastic HK rifle that suffers POI shift when you mag dump it? Truly everything old is new again
 
Neigh said:
The luty and cheetah are that type of DIY garage gun. People are designing hybrids where the non-stressed parts are printed which allows them to print more complicated shapes to accommodate the more simplistic metal parts. The Cheetah's frame is 3D printed and, iirc, there is a hybrid Luty as well.
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This seems like the best and most practical way of doing it, but it's still going to need some basic metalworking.
 
It seems like the fundamental problem with the 3D Printed community is that their currency is social credit in the form of notoriety/renown/respect vs actual cash. Accordingly people get ass mad if the “wrong” people get too much social credit. It doesn’t surprise me that there’s a disproportionately large number of socially maladjusted people attracted to this stuff, and therefore their interactions with each other are strained when combined with the above.

I find the stuff a lot of these guys are making intellectually interesting because they’re able to go through 10 generations of revisions in a very short period of time that we simply can’t do in real firearms manufacturing because of tooling cost. I could easily see some of these designs being matured through this process and picked up by real manufacturers; that is assuming it wouldn’t turn into a mess of lawsuits over who did what to the design and wants credit for it.
 
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Burmese rebels with an interesting selection, looks like everything from muzzle loaders to AKs, with a couple of FGCs in the mix too
 
Champion The Wonder Horse said:
Are 3d printed guns particularly useful to the average American, who can go to his local FFL and buy a pistol calibre AR that will shit all over an FGC9? Absolutely not.
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I think 3D printed guns are awesome despite not owning any or even being interested in making one, but they are useful to Americans in that it's useful as a political tool.

They're useful in that they are a very real example of the idea that gun control simply isn't a viable option politically. You can't show the FGC9 videos or for that matter a video of somebody making a slamfire shotgun (something so insanely easy to do that anyone can do it) to a room of people (normies) and then tell them with a straight face "I want to bar you from purchasing firearms from an FFL and take the ones you already have for the safety of everyone" and expect them to believe disarming themselves is then a good idea that's going to work for the purposes of "reducing gun crime" or "reducing gun violence".
 
Dvsilverwing said:
I think 3D printed guns are awesome despite not owning any or even being interested in making one, but they are useful to Americans in that it's useful as a political tool.

They're useful in that they are a very real example of the idea that gun control simply isn't a viable option politically. You can't show the FGC9 videos or for that matter a video of somebody making a slamfire shotgun (something so insanely easy to do that anyone can do it) to a room of people (normies) and then tell them with a straight face "I want to bar you from purchasing firearms from an FFL and take the ones you already have for the safety of everyone" and expect them to believe disarming themselves is then a good idea that's going to work for the purposes of "reducing gun crime" or "reducing gun violence".
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They're also great because you can turn pipe guns or plastic hand blasters in to retarded blue state police departments for a gun buyback because the ATF legally considers them a firearm. They can't lawfully refuse giving you $50 for $5 worth of steel pipe and plywood, or $10 worth of PLA.
 
Karl has apparently been getting pushback for his most recent video from the 2022 AWCY Maker's Match where he interviewed Derwood (who is a well known butthurt faggot) about his KC-9 PCC design.
He has made the following tweets and from them I can say that Karl is a Bipedal Vagina on account of his unbelievable sensitivity, you would think his PH balance was disturbed the way he is acting. Really Pussy Perturbed.
 

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Puff said:
That's the Amigo Grande, a gatalog/ctrl-pew design. They work pretty well until you do a few mag dumps and the section holding lockup gets warm and soft.
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So it's a lot like an aluminum FA91.
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Puff said:
Like most of the printed designs, the lockup is all metal from the stock gun, so it shouldn't explode.
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CETME/G3 doesn't quite lock though. I'm not sure what kind of problems would happen exactly if the barrel starts shifting back or forth, but it's probably not good, what if the trunnion/barrel shifts forward while chamber pressure is still really high?

Neigh said:
The luty and cheetah are that type of DIY garage gun. People are designing hybrids where the non-stressed parts are printed which allows them to print more complicated shapes to accommodate the more simplistic metal parts. The Cheetah's frame is 3D printed and, iirc, there is a hybrid Luty as well.
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Ah, that's the kind of stuff I've been hoping to see more.
 
HumptiDouji said:
Ah, that's the kind of stuff I've been hoping to see more.
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Don't forget there's plenty of non-printed garage guns as well. It's obviously the trend in making your own firearms now since you can download plans to make the various parts, but it's still limited to getting access to (and being able to competently use) a 3D printer. The absolute shenanigans the Chechens cooked up that (in theory) worked in the 90's and early 2k's is pretty wild.
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Edit: Pakistani Khyber shit is also pretty wild to look into, in the same vein, given that a significant amount of the parts are hand-made in copy of modern stamped/milled/forged stuff.
 
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Dvsilverwing said:
Pakistani Khyber shit is also pretty wild to look into, in the same vein, given that a significant amount of the parts are hand-made in copy of modern stamped/milled/forged stuff.
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Everytime I hear Khyber pass I remember that martini henry pistol and the legend of the shattered wrists.
 
Corn Flakes said:
Now that sounds like an express ticket to the Fun Zone™.
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I mean I have one but I’m also a machinist by trade and my boss thought it was bad ass and gave me time on the machines to make parts.

If the 3D community decides to scratch the .50BMG itch please let me know beforehand so I can make my industrial size bag of popcorn.
 
All this talk about DIY firearms reminded me of Harry Baxter, an Aussie who worked for Bechtel as an engineer back in the 70's. Bechtel and the Papua New Guinea gov had been trying to develop a copper mine in Bougainville since the 60's and Baxter had been hired to help them do that. The locals weren't too happy with the situation but there wasn't much they could do about it.

At some point Baxter became a disgruntled employee™ and decided to help the Bougainvilleans. He helped them smuggle weapons in from the Solomon Islands at first and that did allow the locals to control the copper mine but that wasn't enough. Somebody at some point figured out the the island had a shit ton of WW2 Jap and Bong shit just laying around and Baxter being the creative type figured he could use it.

The Bougainvilleans where able to get autonomy and the promise of an independence referendum all because one man with the right knowledge and basic tools decided to stick it to his former employer.

This is only scratching the surface of this story, I didn't even go into the Sandline affair or the military coup in PNG. I'll leave you with a Bren converted to belt feed.


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