General GunTuber thread

[HumptiDouji]

Why does nobody make new rockets. For 200$ a pop you can hand make those and still get a profit. Is it something on the legal end?

Maybe if someone figured out a way to do the angled jet nozzles in an easy and consistent way with modern manufacturing, someone could do some occasional small scale runs to order, but it'd be for a very small scene of diehard enthusiasts.

It'd almost make more sense to just reinvent the whole thing, just make a better engineered rocket pistol which isn't a flimsy potmetal toy, except the whole part where you need to convince people to spend money on a gun which isn't that good.

the OG assault rifle

The Fedorov feels more akin to the Browning or Johnson rifles, almost light machineguns but actually not really (the BAR was just kind of adapted to better fulfill that role later on, there was no bipod originally). The choice of the 6.5mm Arisaka cartridge was a compromise, Fyodorov wanted to use an all new rimless 6.5mm rifle cartridge which was a bit more powerful.

 

[August Levasseur]

Maybe if someone figured out a way to do the angled jet nozzles in an easy and consistent way with modern manufacturing, someone could do some occasional small scale runs to order, but it'd be for a very small scene of diehard enthusiasts.

It looks to me like the OG cartridges were two part, with a nozzle plate made separately and attached to the pressure vessel. You could probably make the nozzle plates with metal injection molding, or metal 3D printing for small production runs.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

It'd almost make more sense to just reinvent the whole thing, just make a better engineered rocket pistol which isn't a flimsy potmetal toy, except the whole part where you need to convince people to spend money on a gun which isn't that good.

Need to first answer the question of "why" as the gyrojet absolutely solves no problems that have already been solved with existing types of ammunition. Well aside from being an IoM Elbonian tier makework job program.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Why does nobody make new rockets. For 200$ a pop you can hand make those and still get a profit. Is it something on the legal end?

The ven diagram between people who can afford bespoke 200 dollar rocket rounds and the people who are willing to blow off their fingers and priceless relic with Bubba’s pissing hot rocket load is probably pretty small.
No real demand.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Need to first answer the question of "why"

I assumed that it was for novelty, I completely agree that it's a convolution which solves nothing, hence why I figure that it could at best hope for the small scale enthusiast angle.

Bubba’s pissing hot rocket load

It actually feels like it's not quite safe to be shooting these, because of a situation similar to .50BMG SLAPs where they're valuable collectibles which wander loosely through god only knows which paths, only I haven't heard of any counterfeit Gyrojet rockets yet. On the flip side, these little chintzy zinc toys don't make very mighty pressure vessels, which I guess is why on Herrera's pistol the rocket could just fucking take off with the barrel without him even realizing.

Could you imagine though, bubba making fake Gyrojet rockets and he figures he'll put fucking Tannerite or something in there?

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Brandon isn't the first guntuber to do a shooting video with the gyrojet as Taofledermaus done one five years ago.

I assumed that it was for novelty, I completely agree that it's a convolution which solves nothing, hence why I figure that it could at best hope for the small scale enthusiast angle.

Was going to post something else but I did found this video on making gyrojet ammunition.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

The Fedorov feels more akin to the Browning or Johnson rifles, almost light machineguns but actually not really (the BAR was just kind of adapted to better fulfill that role later on, there was no bipod originally). The choice of the 6.5mm Arisaka cartridge was a compromise, Fyodorov wanted to use an all new rimless 6.5mm rifle cartridge which was a bit more powerful.

The Fedorov was an Automatic Rifle /LMG in the same veign as the BAR, Chauchat and Madsen. It was adopted by the Russian empire to increase the supply of squad automatic weapons. The adoption was it's self a compromise, so was the caliber choice since Fedorov could make some guns before the Madsen factory was finished using ammo Russia had on hand. It was meant to be issued 6 to a company, 1 to a platoon, with assistant loaders as part of an LMG section.
The idea that it's an Assault Rifle has come from people wanting really hard for the StG-44 to not be the first AR, Russia wanting really badly to be first at something, making fun of Japs and saying 6.5 is intermediate. If the Fedorov is an AR, the BAR is also an AR because the Swedish ones were in 6.5 and 7.62 > 6.5.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

I showed this to a cousin that's a retired captain. He said he doesn't know shit about standard issued rifles either since it was never his job. I guess that makes some sense but it's a little shocking how little most people in uniform know about fighting. Fighting is so detached from some branches that they get a medal for throwing a grenade in a training environment.

And then go on social media to explain WHY no needs an ASSAULT WEAPON as a VETERAN!

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Was scrolling through guntube and found a guy fishing for attention by popping a PSA with crappy and probably turkish ammo.

(Invidious)

A PSA rep called him out for blaming the rifle(and saying PSA sucks) and other commenters aren't having either.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

And then go on social media to explain WHY no needs an ASSAULT WEAPON as a VETERAN!

A permanent standing army during peacetime was a mistake that the Founders would have tarred and feathered over.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

A permanent standing army during peacetime was a mistake that the Founders would have tarred and feathered over.

The "permanent standing army" the Founding Fathers were opposed is our federal law enforcement apparatus we have today. Not the U.S. Army, Marines, Navy, and Coast Guard as they weren't naive as fuck to think getting rid them entirely during "peacetime" was a good idea. Not when the United States was fighting injuns along the borders. And butting heads with the English, French and Spanish along their colonial borders pre-War of 1812.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

The "permanent standing army" the Founding Fathers were opposed is our federal law enforcement apparatus we have today. Not the U.S. Army, Marines, Navy, and Coast Guard as they weren't naive as fuck to think getting rid them entirely during "peacetime" was a good idea. Not when the United States was fighting injuns along the borders. And butting heads with the English, French and Spanish along their colonial borders pre-War of 1812.

To which is an issue extending from the ability (continuous expansion of the power) to regulate interstate commerce. Partially also because of long supply chains in the modern day. It'll be intresting to see if states are able to take these powers back and why.

I do always wonder if the states would be better off adapting the Swiss military system and model of citizenship, but I have a feeling in that case the US would breakup violently. Too many differing interests and too many disqualifications.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Cokeman got a Ruger to replace his fucked P22 and he broke it in with some more indoor shooting, silenced of course.

 

[Trig.Point]

Why do people that don't know shit about guns always hold VFGs like their hand would catch on fire if it touched the hand guards? If someone attached the grip to the side like a hammer drill, this idiot would have grabbed it.

I showed this to a cousin that's a retired captain. He said he doesn't know shit about standard issued rifles either since it was never his job. I guess that makes some sense but it's a little shocking how little most people in uniform know about fighting. Fighting is so detached from some branches that they get a medal for throwing a grenade in a training environment.

He should have done his annual rifle qualification, along with fitness and other mandated training. I'm guessing he's yet another shitbag officer in an admin post that managed to fudge it, a feature of a lot of western militaries.

 

[SHIGGSHOGG]

Cokeman got a Ruger to replace his fucked P22 and he broke it in with some more indoor shooting, silenced of course.

I don't believe him that was $1800, I'm not sure you can even spend that much on upgrade parts....

Hyped af to thread my Buck Mark and have something I can shoot cookbooks and the McMaster catalogue in my kitchen or living room. With a brake of course, and with funnels instead of earpro

 

[Romulus augustulus]

I don't believe him that was $1800, I'm not sure you can even spend that much on upgrade parts....

Hyped af to thread my Buck Mark and have something I can shoot cookbooks and the McMaster catalogue in my kitchen or living room. With a brake of course, and with funnels instead of earpro

you can easily spend that much if you drag it through the volqaurtsen catalog, and that's before optics and suppressors.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Fat gay retard LazerPig has recently mentioned his progress, or lack thereof, on his Sturmgewehr44-is-not-an-AK video turned StG44-is-bad-actually video.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/david-steel-lazerpig-ricewynd-malquistion.171556/post-18179273

ETA: Be wary of autism and noguns in the thread - they know not what they say, but they must post.

This is roughly 5 months after his initial foray into the topic, which proposed talking to gun people like Ian and Zach Hazard(Armorer who does gun reacts in games on YouTube)

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/david-steel-lazerpig-ricewynd-malquistion.171556/page-61#post-17184543

It's very likely any discussions with other creators have fallen through.

 

[Bogliacci]

It's very likely any discussions with other creators have fallen through.

Damn he was too fat and gay for even Karl

 

[likeacrackado]

Damn he was too fat and gay for even Karl

It would be hilarious if fag pig and crew refuse to talk to Karl because they saw his german ww2 dress up and think he's a wehraboo.

 

[Rainbow Idiot]

Anyone played around with the volqaurtsen stuff? Is it worth getting or only if your a competition shooter?