General GunTuber thread

[Autistic Gunspergings]

All right you faggots, Cokeman posted a video about the GT drama and last night's live stream.

Cokeman as always with the most informed take on this
Guns are a hobby for the majority of civilians. above absolutely everything else, shoot guns, talk about guns, train with guns, to have fun. This is why we engage with hobbies in the first place. Everything else about it, preparedness, self defense, etc, is tertiary for the majority of people. Lucas was talking about how hard it is to train civilians but you cannot train them the same way you train someone who has to do this professionally. If you cannot make your training interesting from a hobbyist perspective, then civilians just will not be engaged in the content.

That's probably the biggest critique I have with Lucas's content, IMO. Im fine with him emphasizing citizen preparedness and getting people to be more conscious of this but every time I watch a video from him I get the impression that I'm supposed to treat this like a full time job and not a hobby I casually engage in on the weekends. Would not surprise me if that translates over to his classes.

 

[CIS White Droid]

All right you faggots, Cokeman posted a video about the GT drama and last night's live stream.

I absolutely love that a man that shoots phonebooks inside his home and owns/owned a gold tiger stripe Desert Eagle has the most logical take on internet drama. God bless cokefag.

 

[Foley]

Yes, riveting content like the holsters of James Bond movies.

Yeah well, that was obviously done because stuff like that is featured on the book his company was publishing and Ian was actively promoting it.

But a great deal of his content did come from RIA.

What happened with that again?

There are a few stories circulating. One is that RIA wanted more control on what guns Ian would feature. Another one is that he actually wanted to buy a gun featured in the action from under the table straight from the consigner, cutting out RIA. And one is that Ian and the owner had a personal fallout, which could be related to either of the two previous stories. Or not.

 

[Meat Target]

Cokeman as always with the most informed take on this
Guns are a hobby for the majority of civilians. above absolutely everything else, shoot guns, talk about guns, train with guns, to have fun. This is why we engage with hobbies in the first place. Everything else about it, preparedness, self defense, etc, is tertiary for the majority of people. Lucas was talking about how hard it is to train civilians but you cannot train them the same way you train someone who has to do this professionally. If you cannot make your training interesting from a hobbyist perspective, then civilians just will not be engaged in the content.

That's probably the biggest critique I have with Lucas's content, IMO. Im fine with him emphasizing citizen preparedness and getting people to be more conscious of this but every time I watch a video from him I get the impression that I'm supposed to treat this like a full time job and not a hobby I casually engage in on the weekends. Would not surprise me if that translates over to his classes.

I've met people like Lucas IRL before. One of them helped me build my AR. They may be good shooters, but they're also douchebags who make the 2A community look bad.

Who ever said above that the military doesn't necessarily make you a good marksman is correct. The military and LEO have bare-minimum qualifications because shooting is not that complicated.

If you go to the range or do dry-fire and reload drills even periodically, you're already training more than 95% of the population.

Timmy Tactitard may indeed be able to circumcise a fly with a pistol at 200 yards, but that's not necessarily substitute for being in a not-fucking-around fight for life or death. Nog'Tavious the Crip has more real combat experience than Timmy Tactitard, because he's actually killed motherfuckers.

Yes, guns are awesome, but there's more to life than them. Don't let playing Army become a substitute for your personaity or relationships.

And yes, you should train, but IMHO you should focus your training on the scenarios you as a civilian are most likely to be involved in, such as a home invasion or self-defense. The chances of you needing bang/breach/clear like you're in Fallujah are microscopic.

That's another thing I miss about Paul. He wasn't one of these my-way-or-the-highway faggots. He always emphasized that a lot of things about guns are subjective; your individual training, state of life, and circumstances are going to vary.

 

[quaawaa]

Nog'Tavious the Crip has more real combat experience than Timmy Tactitard, because he's actually killed motherfuckers.

Gang shootings are some guy pulling a pistol and spraying someone two feet in front of him and then running away. That’s not combat experience.

 

[likeacrackado]

2A community policing hasn't gotten very lame recently. Obviously frauds/bullshit should be called out and you shouldn't encourage batshit leftists to arm themselves. Outside of that I don't care to whinge about other people's behavior because calling them retards won't stop them from being retards. If you care so much, set an example for others and ignore the people complaining about "tacticool larpers" or "unserious hobbiests".

Thread tax: James Reeves video about a Texas plumbing truck turned ISIS technical:

 

[CyrusHowler]

He's also running with that shitty sweepstakes site and apparently giving away his own guns through it.

Why does that bother people on here so much lmao. The frothing and malding over sponsored content here is quite perplexing.

Yes, riveting content like the holsters of James Bond movies.

Are you retarded? Seriously…Are you?

James Bond is one of the most famous intellectual properties in the world and Ian’s company just published a book detailing the guns of Bond with a section on the holsters. Why would you not capitalize on it while also trying to appeal to Bond nerds, and normies in general.
“Hey, I know James Bond…That sounds interesting.”
The video was good to boot.

 

[CyrusHowler]

Nog'Tavious the Crip has more real combat experience than Timmy Tactitard, because he's actually killed motherfuckers.

A bunch of “Timmy Tactitards” vs Crips.

Gang shootings are some guy pulling a pistol and spraying someone two feet in front of him and then running away. That’s not combat experience.

Thank you. Somebody with logic and critical thinking skills.

That's another thing I miss about Paul

Jesus Christ shut up.
Half of you knuckle dragging subhumans never gave a shit about Paul when he was alive. Barely ever talked about him. Now you’re all here mourning his death like he was your Father or some shit.
We all loved Paul and wish more Guntubers were like him. But being cringe and gay and stupid and retarded about it isn’t gonna change things or bring him back, only make you look like a fucking whining asshole.



Sorry for the Double Post.

 

[waffle]

Gang shootings are some guy pulling a pistol and spraying someone two feet in front of him and then running away. That’s not combat experience.

I agree, and disagree at the same time. It's in almost no way military combat, but at the same time he has probably had firearms pointed at him with lethal intent and has killed a man. There are some dudes who can't handle that stuff, and he already been through the "first time" adrenaline dump. I do think that matters.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

So you're saying for real training I need to get in gun fights with gangs? Sounds more fun than a 3-gun match. Will I need to follow the 180-degree rule still?

 

[Samhain]

Guns are a hobby for the majority of civilians. above absolutely everything else, shoot guns, talk about guns, train with guns, to have fun. This is why we engage with hobbies in the first place. Everything else about it, preparedness, self defense, etc, is tertiary for the majority of people.

Mostly true. A lot of guys who EDC a CCW don't really take training seriously. They either don't train at all, or just fuck around when they do go to the range. It's even worse if all they have is an indoor range where they can't properly train. Can't move around, can't draw from their holster, etc. A lot of guys simply won't go the extra step to increase their skill level. I'm super thankful I have a spot in the woods where I can set up my targets and shoot without any bullshit.

That's probably the biggest critique I have with Lucas's content, IMO. Im fine with him emphasizing citizen preparedness and getting people to be more conscious of this but every time I watch a video from him I get the impression that I'm supposed to treat this like a full time job and not a hobby I casually engage in on the weekends.

Lucas's problem is he thinks being a gun owner should be a 100% serious thing at all times. "No fun allowed." He's also detached from the reality of regular men who have limited time and money to train because his wealthy parents had money to give him for ammo and land to shoot on. There's nothing in the 2A that says guns can't be owned just for fun or sport, but Lucas is a tryhard minuteman kind of guy. I don't know why he says he wants to convert gamers into gun owners, but then makes it all about being a dead serious citizen soldier LARP. Yeah, if you want to protect yourself and your loved ones, take your training seriously, but don't be a humorless sheepdog dickhead about it.

Another thing about being a prepared citizen -- if Lucas wanted his viewers to be prepared, he'd do videos about stockpiling food with limited space, collecting and treating water, idiot-proof radio comms, basic first aid, collecting/storing power, etc. But he'd rather larp on the range in tactical gear and leave those kinds of videos up to his brother Isaac, whose videos are far more interesting than Lucas's.

And yes, you should train, but IMHO you should focus your training on the scenarios you as a civilian are most likely to be involved in, such as a home invasion or self-defense. The chances of you needing bang/breach/clear like you're in Fallujah are microscopic.

Agreed. I think taking CQB classes has value, since those skills might come in handy during a burglary / home invasion, but you shouldn't be going on the hunt for someone if you don't have to. Get your family members into one room and call the cops. If the intruder tries to enter the room, engage. Other than that, EDC CCW classes have the most value to regular guys.

 

[Bogliacci]

These guys forgot the first rule of gun safety is to have fun.

 

[HelpingNoone]

Did Reno May go through puberty or something? Is it just me or does he sound completely different?

Testosterone?

 

[Corn Flakes]

Another thing about being a prepared citizen -- if Lucas wanted his viewers to be prepared, he'd do videos about stockpiling food with limited space, collecting and treating water, idiot-proof radio comms, basic first aid, collecting/storing power, etc. But he'd rather larp on the range in tactical gear and leave those kinds of videos up to his brother Isaac, whose videos are far more interesting than Lucas's.

This is a pet peeve I have with these people. If you're pushing for self-defense as the ultimate goal of civilian gun ownership, stop making videos in full tactical gear. You're not gonna have time to put on your full rig if there's a burglar or five breaking into your home, or if you notice someone shifty around the parking lot of wherever you stopped to have dinner at. Start doing videos telling people how to best carry spare ammo securely in a bathrobe, shorts or jeans.

 

[Frank Hassle]

I've met people like Lucas IRL before. One of them helped me build my AR. They may be good shooters, but they're also douchebags who make the 2A community look bad.

Do you still say "sporting rifle"?

 

[Samhain]

You're not gonna have time to put on your full rig if there's a burglar or five breaking into your home

It's stupid. Even if someone keeps a plate carrier next to their bed, they're going to get awoken, fuzzy and confused. Was that glass breaking? Is someone breaking in, or did the cat/dog knock something over? When someone gets ripped out of REM sleep like that, chances are extremely likely they're only going to have the presence of mind to grab their bedside rifle/pistol. Putting on a plate carrier in that state takes time, and that's time better spent retrieving kids from their rooms. If you have no kids, fine, toss on your carrier and hole up in your room.

I actually think a really handy piece of gear for a situation like this is the bandolier Shaw Concepts sells. Fill it with some medical supplies, an extra mag, and an old phone you can use to call 911. Just throw it on over your head. Much simpler and faster than donning a plate carrier.

 

[WelperHelper99]

There are also plenty of guns that he should really revisit, because some his early videos were fucking rough, man.

To be fair he just did a re-review of the SPAS-12 with shooting.

And he finally got a video of that old over complicated German 5cm mortar shooting

 

[AncientPhosphur]

I actually think a really handy piece of gear for a situation like this is the bandolier Shaw Concepts sells. Fill it with some medical supplies, an extra mag, and an old phone you can use to call 911. Just throw it on over your head. Much simpler and faster than donning a plate carrier.

Just slinging a chest rig over the side also works too.

Mostly true. A lot of guys who EDC a CCW don't really take training seriously. They either don't train at all, or just fuck around when they do go to the range. It's even worse if all they have is an indoor range where they can't properly train. Can't move around, can't draw from their holster, etc. A lot of guys simply won't go the extra step to increase their skill level. I'm super thankful I have a spot in the woods where I can set up my targets and shoot without any bullshit.

I think a lot of that is also due to the noise of guntubers doing the soldier minute man militia thing for clicks. Even regular class stuff is just rifle pistol basics. Tactical Hyve does a good simunition class I found helpful and informative because it’s also scenario based they pulled from real situations.

But largely I think it’s a mix of cost prohibiting, lack of knowledge about training/classes, and just watching a few youtube videos and shrug saying “Good enough”. You really need a drive to go into it. Competition shooting is good at that but it’s also not going to get you to the real work draw and shoot due to threat assessment and the like.

 

[Meat Target]

GRRRRR me is mad you are beneath me RREEEEEEEE Double Post.

Lol calm down and get the stick out of your ass.

You lose a shooting competition? Worst thing to happen is you don't get a medal. You lose a hoodrat shootout? You end up dead or maimed. You don't have anyone shooting back at you in a competition.

Real-world combat is not a friendly contest. It's bloody, messy, chaotic, and hideous. It doesn't matter if Nog'Tavious doesn't have proper form or is spraying everywhere. He's still engaging in raw, primitive violence where the stakes are life or death, and you won't feel so smug when he's emptying his Hi-Point in your direction.

There's a police saying: "Don't be afraid of the bullet with your name on it. Be afraid of the bullet addressed 'to whom it may concern'".

And most shootings, lawful or not, happen at up close and personal distances.

But please, keep being a supercilious jackoff to make your e-penis feel bigger, tough guy. LARPing as Billy Badass doesn't mean you're immune to ending up as a loot drop. No plan survives first contact.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

LARPing as Billy Badass doesn't mean you're immune to ending up as a loot drop.

Maybe he walks around in Texas with his strapon.