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Seafarer said:
Don’t forget that India is probably the worst country in regards to actually making functional firearms. Iirc their service rifle makes the original L85 look like a fudd’s perception of an AK-47 and before that their FAL clone was pretty much regarded as the worst FAL clone adopted by a major military.
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Also don't forget the Jeets were too poor and jeety to buy a FAL license. They reverse engineered the poorfag rifle of the west.
That would be like reverse engineering a Hi Point.
 
F-16 Viper said:
I watched Ian's 320 video and came away with a strange feeling. Anyone else feel like Ian is a snake in the grass? He just seemed very disingenuous.
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the dude looks like the king of the hill satanist guy. I liked him more when I was younger he's informative but I would never want to hear him talk about anything other than rare guns and I don't really watch that anymore anyways.
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Devious Dave said:
the dude looks like the king of the hill satanist guy. I liked him more when I was younger he's informative but I would never want to hear him talk about anything other than rare guns and I don't really watch that anymore anyways.
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Nah, that's Styxhexenhammer/Tarl Warwick. He and Ward Rackley are so much more alike to the point of you'd have to wonder who's a parody of who.

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quaawaa said:
Yes. Ian did a video on them:
Pay attention to the horrible machining.
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I saw that on the India-Pakistan conflict thread, and noticed how it looked like a "AK-47" at first. Yet I thought it would either be a Galil or maybe a FN Fal. I wouldn't be amazed if it is a mishmash of all three, honestly (haven't watched the video yet).
 
F-16 Viper said:
I watched Ian's 320 video and came away with a strange feeling. Anyone else feel like Ian is a snake in the grass? He just seemed very disingenuous.
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I think Ians just trying to fence sit. The only financial interest he’s trying to protect is the amount of viewers that want to watch his videos and subscribe to his Patreon.
 
GeorgeHWBush said:
I think Ians just trying to fence sit. The only financial interest he’s trying to protect is the amount of viewers that want to watch his videos and subscribe to his Patreon.
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That and considering his job is fairly dependent on his reputation within the industry I'm not really surprised. If a company has some weird prototype gun in their archives then they aren't going to give it to FW if they think he's going to talk shit about them.
 
Autistic Gunspergings said:
That and considering his job is fairly dependent on his reputation within the industry I'm not really surprised. If a company has some weird prototype gun in their archives then they aren't going to give it to FW if they think he's going to talk shit about them.
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His explanation of the tolerance stack and manufacture methods was okay, but the thing he latched on when talking about Tripp's video was the claim that the change from stamping to MIM was meant to save 30 dollars per gun, on a part that was already dirt-cheap with stamping. That's the part he took offense to, the rest was mostly just fluff for context.

I don't think he's fence-sitting or protecting his contacts so much as he's allowing his "THERE'S SOMEONE WRONG ON THE INTERNET" autism to act up over a subject that he really has no business talking about. No matter what he said, someone would end up pissed off at him.
 
Corn Flakes said:
I don't think he's fence-sitting or protecting his contacts so much as he's allowing his "THERE'S SOMEONE WRONG ON THE INTERNET" autism to act up over a subject that he really has no business talking about. No matter what he said, someone would end up pissed off at him.
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The real issue is that he and Tripp are talking past each other. Ian is trying to zero in on the engineering side of the problem while Tripp is trying to zero in on the human side of the equation. Both if them recognize that the striker safety is the issue but Ian sees it as a failure of engineering while Tripp sees it as a failure of management.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Imagine the recall required, a waterfall of P320-sized boxes going through FedEx, UPS, and the USPS.
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Why imagine it when 1.3 million Remington 700s were recalled some time ago over Remington losing the lawsuit over their faulty trigger.

Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I wouldn't be surprised if they knew about this prior to sending the guns out but they did Pinto Math and determined that the litigation would be cheaper than redesigning and/or remaking all the parts.
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There's one major caveat to Pinto Math and that is Ford and similar sized and larger corporations can get away with it. As they can afford to buy enough politicians to either keep the lawsuits from happening. Or at worse mitigate the damage should one does happen and they lose.

Sig like Remington before them, can not afford to buy more a few politicians or stave off lawsuits once the law firm start smelling blood in the water.
 
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Fatsuit Shinji said:
Why imagine it when 1.3 million Remington 700s were recalled some time ago over Remington losing the lawsuit over their faulty trigger.


There's one major caveat to Pinto Math and that is Ford and similar sized and larger corporations can get away with it. As they can afford to buy enough politicians to either keep the lawsuits from happening. Or at worse mitigate the damage should one does happen and they lose.

Sig like Remington before them, can not afford to buy more a few politicians or stave off lawsuits once the law firm start smelling blood in the water.
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Sure but if they can keep the customers from bringing in a class action suit then it's still cheaper. Hell I'd be willing to beg a class action settlement will still be cheaper than remanning all those parts. And clearly someone in the army is getting fat kickbacks so I doubt they're worried about the government.
 
Devious Dave said:
but I would never want to hear him talk about anything other than rare guns
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Case in point, hearing what he has to say on Politics. You’d think by seeing Karl’s spiral downfall and after seeing how normal guys like Brandon and Admin are…He’d stop and think, “huh, maybe this leftist thing isn’t really all it’s cracked up to be.”

Exhibit A from his video on the Fenian invasion conversion rifle:
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CyrusHowler said:
Case in point, hearing what he has to say on Politics. You’d think by seeing Karl’s spiral downfall and after seeing how normal guys like Brandon and Admin are…He’d stop and think, “huh, maybe this leftist thing isn’t really all it’s cracked up to be.”

Exhibit A from his video on the Fenian invasion conversion rifle:
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What kind of stupid faggot shit talks the best SecDef in my lifetime?!

Looks like Ian and Brunhilde have more in common politically than I would have suspected.
 
CyrusHowler said:
Case in point, hearing what he has to say on Politics. You’d think by seeing Karl’s spiral downfall and after seeing how normal guys like Brandon and Admin are…He’d stop and think, “huh, maybe this leftist thing isn’t really all it’s cracked up to be.”

Exhibit A from his video on the Fenian invasion conversion rifle:
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Also in that comment section:
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He also announced a new book about battle rifles today but mistakenly the map on the cover has Poland and Bulgaria as Cold War-era NATO countries despite them being members of the Warsaw Pact:
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Austria and Switzerland are also shown as blue, but they were neutral.

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On the lighter side of things, Othais has, at one point, verbally confirmed that he pays Kevin in sandwiches. I hope they're taking care of him, he's a decent stand-in for Crozier so far.
 
Ian just should have never said anything about the P320 thing. He has to keep things good with manufacturers because of what he does, so the smarter move is probably to just say "that's not something I talk about" instead of giving a flaccid shuck-and-jive.

quaawaa said:
Austria and Switzerland are also shown as blue
Ive never understood how Austria managed to skate on the cold war and any accountability for WW2. Literally the only thing I know of that even happened there between 1946 and 1991 is the invention of the Glock pistol
 
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CyrusHowler said:
Case in point, hearing what he has to say on Politics. You’d think by seeing Karl’s spiral downfall and after seeing how normal guys like Brandon and Admin are…He’d stop and think, “huh, maybe this leftist thing isn’t really all it’s cracked up to be.”

Exhibit A from his video on the Fenian invasion conversion rifle:
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I mean, calling out the US SecDef as the donkey as he is isn't being a leftist. It's just stating the fucking facts. Also kek at calling Brandon and Admin "normal". I mean compared to the commie faggot shit represented by Karl, sure. But your average people? They are far less subtle in their political opinions than Ian. Normal people usually keep it to themselves.
 
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waffle said:
Ive never understood how Austria managed to skate on the cold war and any accountability for WW2. Literally the only thing I know of that even happened there between 1946 and 1991 is the invention of the Glock pistol
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My understanding is that Austria in the immediate aftermath of WWII was an absolute clusterfuck. It was broken up into various occupation zones with some-sort of UN-style council governing it, this council was stuck in deadlock for the majority of its existence, eventually the Soviets and the West came to the agreement of Austria being a neutral independent nation rather than being partitioned like the Germans.
Also the Soviets stole anything they could lift while the US was working with the Yugos to prevent a Czech-style communist takeover.
 
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