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This YZY prints guy seems like a proper lolcow
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Some pretty big cow potential. Especially with him more than likely to get killed by type 2 diabetes or a heart attack. I think copyright striking FocusTripp will lead to some pretty funny outcomes in which YZY becomes a cow.

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Im really surprised Ian hasn't released a cope sesh about the P320 yet. The FBI report and the Air Force thing were pretty inauspiciously timed in relation to his last "isolated incidents" video. Seems like he's trying to whistle past the (literal) graveyard on this - addressing when you're wrong is the most important part of maintaining credibility.
 
That YZY Prints guy posted a video where he larps as some sort of revolutionary (despite looking like a flight of stairs could defeat him in combat) and encouraged illegal aliens and autogynephiliacs to shoot police and federal agents, and he's surprised someone noticed and pointed out how retarded he is? For a brave Marxist warrior, he sure can't handle the bantz.
 
waffle said:
Im really surprised Ian hasn't released a cope sesh about the P320 yet. The FBI report and the Air Force thing were pretty inauspiciously timed in relation to his last "isolated incidents" video. Seems like he's trying to whistle past the (literal) graveyard on this - addressing when you're wrong is the most important part of maintaining credibility.
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Cutting past the drama and autism towards Tripp, Ian's argument added up to "bad QA and tolerances being exceeded can make even safe designs unsafe". So far, even the FBI report hasn't been able to say it was a matter the P320 being a poorly-designed or a poorly-built pistol. The fact they had to grind the triggers to make them work points towards the latter. Someone has clearly fucked up between testing and mass manufacture.
 
Corn Flakes said:
even the FBI report hasn't been able to say it was a matter the P320 being a poorly-designed or a poorly-built pistol.
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I think the FBI report shows at a minimum a design defect in relation to the striker block. I don't really see how you can say otherwise.

Additionally the franken-gun design history of the p320 is just suspect to begin with, and belies that the entire project was about cost cutting
 
waffle said:
Im really surprised Ian hasn't released a cope sesh about the P320 yet. The FBI report and the Air Force thing were pretty inauspiciously timed in relation to his last "isolated incidents" video. Seems like he's trying to whistle past the (literal) graveyard on this - addressing when you're wrong is the most important part of maintaining credibility.
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I have noticed basically every guntuber with industry contacts is desperate to suck off Sig and pretend that the p320 thing is not a direct result of corruption and intentionally subpar manufacturing. Just saw a video of James Reeves that was him trying really fucking hard to defend Sig and act like Sig's blatant corruption and criminal negligence wasn't actually corruption and negligence, and was just due to Sig offering their handguns at cost.

They are so desperate to choke on Sig's cock for special industry treatment that they actually think anyone is buying their garbage. Ian's response to this has made me lose a lot of respect for him. He needs to just call Sig out and admit he was wrong, even if it means losing his industry darling status. It's too late for him to just keep his mouth shut on the topic.

Video if anyone is curious:

 
Fount of BadSpeak said:
I have noticed basically every guntuber with industry contacts is desperate to suck off Sig and pretend that the p320 thing is not a direct result of corruption and intentionally subpar manufacturing. Just saw a video of James Reeves that was him trying really fucking hard to defend Sig and act like Sig's blatant corruption and criminal negligence wasn't actually corruption and negligence, and was just due to Sig offering their handguns at cost.

They are so desperate to choke on Sig's cock for special industry treatment that they actually think anyone is buying their garbage. Ian's response to this has made me lose a lot of respect for him. He needs to just call Sig out and admit he was wrong, even if it means losing his industry darling status. It's too late for him to just keep his mouth shut on the topic.

Video if anyone is curious:

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He did make a short making fun of the 320 using that retarded Russian holster that chambers a round when you push the gun down to unholster.

 
waffle said:
I think the FBI report shows at a minimum a design defect in relation to the striker block. I don't really see how you can say otherwise.

Additionally the franken-gun design history of the p320 is just suspect to begin with, and belies that the entire project was about cost cutting
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Oh, it absolutely was. This whole thing is on Sig and anyone trying to claim otherwise is being either an ignorant fool or outright dishonest.

What I'm personally interested in is figuring out where, exactly, did they fuck up. We all know the 320 was the cheapest thing they could come up with to "technically" fulfill the requirements set in their contracts, but did they fuck up by sending test samples that weren't representative of what they were actually going to build in the first place? Because presumably the P320 was tested before being adopted, and those failures are both blatant and seemingly easy to trigger. So, did they offer actual production-quality samples and then bribe the officials doing the testing? Or did they get the contracts, realize they couldn't makes as much profit as they wanted with the product they offered, and then ditched their QA and hurried to get the cheapest manufacturing possible to cut all the costs?

It's all incredibly retarded, and I can't wait to see the lawsuits. Specifically, what comes up in discovery.
 
Protrabrand with a P320-leg compilation, starting off with the gun the FBI took a look at. (archive, before the SIG hitsquads get him)

Even Colion Noir is dunking on the P320, the mainstream will be exposed to it whether SIG likes it or not.

EDIT: Autism Crossover Alert, this is not a drill
 
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@Corn Flakes you should go read about the MHS adoption process, I'll try and find links later if I have time. They didn't really test it, there is a lawsuit from Glock where their complaint is that the testing was all fake and incomplete, and the whole thing was a setup for sig to begin with.

There were pretty credible allegations of bribery and kickbacks before the safety issues came out.
 
Ian posted his video for tomorrow under the paywall, and iiiiiit's...The 320 question!

The core message seems to be there might be or might not be a mechanical issue with the gun (initially it sounds pretty sweep-y) but then goes into how it doesn't matter because this is basically strike 3. These pistols now represent an unknown risk unless they find a problem, and agencies aren't going to touch them with a ten foot pole if they can help it.

Which is true, I guess.
 
waffle said:
@Corn Flakes you should go read about the MHS adoption process, I'll try and find links later if I have time. They didn't really test it, there is a lawsuit from Glock where their complaint is that the testing was all fake and incomplete, and the whole thing was a setup for sig to begin with.

There were pretty credible allegations of bribery and kickbacks before the safety issues came out.
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See, that's what I want to dig into. Someone is going to get reamed for shit like this and I'd love to know how high up it goes. Post the links if you ever find them, please.

Mikoyan said:
The core message seems to be there might be or might not be a mechanical issue with the gun (initially it sounds pretty sweep-y) but then goes into how it doesn't matter because this is basically strike 3. These pistols now represent an unknown risk unless they find a problem, and agencies aren't going to touch them with a ten foot pole if they can help it.

Which is true, I guess.
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That Airforce guy getting killed with his gun still in the holster turned the P320 from "bad PR" to "completely radioactive" overnight. Even if they recall every single P320, fix them completely for free and throw in a complimentary blowjob with every return of over 10 units, nobody wants to be holding the bag of liability for guns that somehow slipped through the cracks of the recall. That model is done.
 
Corn Flakes said:
That Airforce guy getting killed with his gun still in the holster turned the P320 from "bad PR" to "completely radioactive" overnight. Even if they recall every single P320, fix them completely for free and throw in a complimentary blowjob with every return of over 10 units, nobody wants to be holding the bag of liability for guns that somehow slipped through the cracks of the recall. That model is done.
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You'll probably like 95% of the video then. It's going to be interesting to see how deep people watch.. It starts off with a lot of 'nothing's been proven about the 320' and I expect a nonzero number of people will start reeing at that moment.
 
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This is what you get when you start adopting those PLASTIC 9mm pea-shooters! I'm sure even the most lip-wristed airman in the CHAIR FORCE (go ARMY!) can handle a 45 Colt. The 1911 won us two world wars and it would have won us 'Nam too if that damn hippy Cronkite wasn't spewing commie bull**** every night! When I served I never heard of anyone getting shot by their own 1911. Thank God Almighty I got out before they forced us to use those Breda 92 pea-shooters that would break their slides after a magazine! I still carry the Colt government series 70 that I bought with my enlistment bonus to this day and I shoot once a year. Do you know how many times it's gone off when I didn't want it to? ONCE. One time in over 40 years ain't too shabby if I dare say so myself! I was going to replace that toilet anyway.

Hey, ARMY/Navy/Marines/Chair Force, bring back the 1911 and you won't have these problems! Teach those damned kids how to use iron sights instead of that laser sight that probably goes through more AA batteries than my son's old Nintendo when we'd go on road trips to our timeshare in Branson, Missouri.
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