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Will those Volhojl people say such things in an Islamic republic, I wonder?
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This one is almost certainly his best:
Although now that I look, I seem to mostly only have goofy ones or pictures that he happens to also be in. He has one (1) respectable photo, taking a picture with someone else at that forum Paul held a short while before he died. There are other pictures of him that came to mind, like a photoshoot he and Paul did for DCS and a trophy picture after a buffalo hunt, but I can't seem to find those, they must have been several phones ago.
In the "Fashion Show" video a couple years back you can see Greg, this was a thinly veiled show of all their soon-to-be illegal weapons (in Oregon) without proof of prior ownership due to some new legislation.
Yeah, that was me. I heard from Greg that he "was probably dead by now" because he had planned to shoot himself. Apparently something happened and he decided not to, but I didn't know this until the morning after. Paul said many times that he never wanted to waste away and would rather take matters into his own hands when the time came, so I didn't think twice about it. I still wonder what changed his mind right then, if he had some kind of religious experience or recognized the beauty of life or some shit, but we'll never know. All I know is that after that, he accepted treatment for the cancer, which was mainly just painkillers like morphine. Even though by that point it looked like he had only days to live, he ended up living several more months, to everyone's surprise. And yeah, he was rawdogging one of the most painful conditions a human can experience without anything stronger than ibuprofen for months. This time, though, I can tell you with absolute certainty that Greg's dead. I saw his body myself.
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Thats a really long winded way of admitting you're a clout chasing faggot.
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Can someone explain to me like I’m a retard (I am) what Franklin Armory’s new “anti AFT” gun is?
Cuz I still have zero clue after watching several of their videos.
Cuz I still have zero clue after watching several of their videos.
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The NFA says that an SBR is a gun with a barrel less than 16" designed to be fired from the shoulder and that is designed to fire a single projectile per trigger pull (the latter is also why you don't need a second tax stamp for an MG with a short barrel).
Franklin designed a weapon that shoots special multi-projectile rounds, which means that it is not an SBR as defined by the NFA. Of course, it just so happens that this weapon can also shoot normal ammunition and that their special rounds will also work in other weapons, but that's irrelevant to the law.
Romulus augustulus
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isn't this just a modern day volley gun which was already allowed under NFA?
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It’s more like a modernized Project SALVO.
Multiple-projectile guns have always been legal and are not MGs, but the key loophole in the NFA that Franklin noticed is that an SBR is explicitly defined in the law as a single-projectile gun so it is legal to have a shoulder-fired multi-projectile gun with any length barrel.
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Basically the Government has declared (via private settlement between Franklin and the DOJ, Ala Rarebreed) that Franklin has magic powers to make SBR's that aren't actually SBR's and Franklin claims that they have the ability to grant other people this magical power (which they plan to do) despite as far as I can tell not having a pending or granted patent relating to any (nonexistent) technology featured in the Antithesis (It is as far as anyone knows a Standard AR that has been "designed" to fire multiple projectile ammunition but a Judge ((and presumably the DOJ via the settlement Franklin reached with them)) also said it's okay to fire regular ammunition through it)
Nobody except Franklin and DOJ lawyers know the exact details of the settlement that grants Franklin these magical powers and as far as I have seen nobody has even begun to speculate by what means Franklin plans to license the supposed monopolistic rights (remember, they don't seem to have a patent and don't claim to have on pending or granted) granted to them to other manufacturers or even WHAT they plan on licensing, that is, what even is there to license, Franklin makes no claims to patented technology or trade secret, do they plan to issue literal permission slips? Would there even be a penalty for a party other than Franklin to "violate" the Franklin/DOJ Settlement via unpermitted manufacture of multi projecrile firing firearms? How could there be? There's no legal protections outside of the DOJ Settlement and as far as I know the government can't just declare that one individual company has ownership of a concept without formal legal statements and a clearly defined scope of claims.
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By this logic any pistol or rifle that has ratshot in that caliber would fall under this. As long as you have the intent to use ratshot in it.
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No, it has to be "designed" with said Intent (even if such "designing" doesn't modify the firearm in the slightest) you can't apply such intent to an already existing firearm because it's already been transferred as a Pistol/Rifle according to a form 4473 (you could maybe get away with a stripped lower but more on that in a minute), it has to leave the factory having had magic words spoken over it, thus imbuing it with a magical essence of "Not an SBR".
Regarding stripped lowers that have been transferred as " Other" on a 4473 you could MAYBE get away with it depending on the language in the non public Settlement between DOJ and Franklin but Franklin is at least implying that they're the only ones who have the magic power to declare an SBR to not be an SBR via "design" so I don't know if it's even possible for just anybody to claim they "designed" a stripped lower to fire multiple projectile ammunition and if it is Franklin isn't going to rush and tell everybody due to that being bad for business.
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Just wanna throw in my own two cents about BoyBoy and his videos about guns; they didn’t get so many responses from gun guys because gun guys are fragile/insecure about being called gay or whatever, the responses are based on the pretty obvious inference that gun guys are all homophobic bigoted right-wing assholes who hate LGBT people. The joke in their video wasn’t “We’re calling you gay!”, it was “We’re calling you gay and you must HATE THAT because you HATE the gays!”. It’s mocking a strawman version of gun guys that they’re assuming they all fall under the umbrella of so no shit they’re gonna respond back with a little bit of indignation.
Their framing of the entire drama with Brandon is so shitty and disingenuous too. No one is claiming you tricked him into shooting the kid targets, they’re giving you shit for coming to the guy with the intentions of just doing a robot dog video which you then turned into a political hit piece about how guys like Brandon are psychos while trying to pretend he had no issue with the kid targets (he did, as seen in his video, he went along with it because of it was seen as a dark edgy joke by everyone in the room when it was revealed what they sent him.)
Also the hand-wringing about the passive aggressive woman comment is so bizarre, these guys will talk endless shit about men and how weird and violent and insecure and angry they are but if you make a milquetoast joke that I’m pretty sure even a lot of women would agree with then you’re being a misogynist asshole? It’s like they view women as fragile little babies who also can’t handle banter or jokes or insults (the gun guys are the insecure ones though remember that).
Their whole video is such crybully shit, it’s the definition of Schrödinger’s Douchebag. If you respond positively than you’re a good sport who sees their point, but if you don’t like us insinuating you’re some kind of evil asshole then you’re just an insecure baby because you’re getting mad at jokes. They change from jokes to serious comments based on the response, and BoyBoy admits this in one of the comments on their video.
Pretty much the whole video about gun guys serves as a demoralization tactic hidden behind irony. That’s why they’re so gun-ho on screaming about toxic masculinity and how fucked up it is while mocking men for showing vulnerability about being upset online; they’re fine with weaponizing stuff like toxic masculinity against their enemies. It’s the same reason why there’s so many comments on their original video of other gun-owners being like “I’m a gun owner and yeah, these guys are so weird!” like somehow in an event where everyone’s guns are confiscated they’d be exempt for being good sports about it. Also given there’s at least one comment on the video where a trans girl says she’s armed to the teeth and the comments to that are supporting her there’s also some friend/enemy distinction double standard going on there as well.
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the taurus judge falls into the magic category of being a gun designed to fire shotgun shells, being chambered in a shotgun cartridge, and is legally not defined as a short barrel shotgun despite having a 4 inch barrel. The gun cannot be legally defined as a shotgun because it's rifled. There's also the Mossberg Shockwave argument where a firearm cannot be legally defined as a shotgun if it was never designed to be shouldered.
from what i see it looks like they're trying to use the exact same argument, that if they produce a gun chambered in .410/45 then it would be kosher for the same reason, but they took it another step of mental gymnastics further and just chambered the gun in 5.56 and are trying to use the bare minimum definition of "producing ammunition" by including a satchet of 5 birdshot bullets for the end user to assemble into cartridges themselves.
if that's the case then all they would need to do to "license" this out to other entities is to just give them the bullets so they could do the same thing.
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The antithesis is already removed from the Franklin armory website.
The youtube videos they uploaded yesterday have been set to private.
The atf posted on twitter
"On August 29, 2025, ATF issued an open letter reclassifying Franklin Armory’s Reformation and Antithesis. The open letter implemented a settlement agreement, which classified these weapons as “firearms” under the Gun Control Act but not subject to the controls of the NFA. The open letter only applies to the two models listed in the letter, in the specific configuration that was the subject of the settlement agreement. Other short-barreled firearms are not covered by the settlement agreement, even if they are being branded as “Reformation” or “Antithesis” firearms."
The youtube videos they uploaded yesterday have been set to private.
The atf posted on twitter
"On August 29, 2025, ATF issued an open letter reclassifying Franklin Armory’s Reformation and Antithesis. The open letter implemented a settlement agreement, which classified these weapons as “firearms” under the Gun Control Act but not subject to the controls of the NFA. The open letter only applies to the two models listed in the letter, in the specific configuration that was the subject of the settlement agreement. Other short-barreled firearms are not covered by the settlement agreement, even if they are being branded as “Reformation” or “Antithesis” firearms."
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This is why I don't care for "people" like these being disarmed or disbarred from being armed. They don't deserve to be armed, and are potential timebombs waiting to go off.
May time solve this issue. I truly hope a hard reset in society won't be necessary, but rather a soft reset. Who knows.
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Romulus augustulus
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I am not surprised. video hosting has never turned a profit. even youtube.