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HelpingNoone said:
This sounds like Navyman is scared to be pulled into a defamation lawsuit.

Proof of damages is the number one reason that defamation lawsuits go nowhere. But modlite and now navyman in the comments have layed it out.
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He may have an easy deflection since TrannyArms publicly stated Modlite pulled out due to troubles they had with their lights, but who knows.
 
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Wonder why there wasn't an Inrange collaboration with his tactical boygirlfriend on this topic? 🤔
 

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XM193 said:
Wonder why there wasn't an Inrange collaboration with his tactical boygirlfriend on this topic? 🤔
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You're late to the party Karl, Skinny Medic, Stop The Bleed, and literally every other outfit that actually knows trauma first aid has been towing this line for years.
 
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Sleazy Car Salesman said:
You're late to the party Karl, Skinny Medic, Stop The Bleed, and literally every other outfit that actually knows trauma first aid has been towing this line for years.
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having completed basic field medical training (combat lifesaver) as well as the US Army SERE medical course, a tampon (especially one with a plastic applicator!!!) isn't designed or even really effective in managing bloodloss in the field. velocity/puncture/GSW usually has components of crushing, tearing, and hyper expansion of soft tissue which causes massive hemorrhaging (bleeding) of the wound site. tampons are generally designed to staunch and absorb blood flow but it does little to encourage clotting or seal/stabilize the injury site. when you're dealing with literally losing a pint of blood over several minutes it's unlikely to absorb all that without becoming overly saturated and useless where a proper medicated dressing would be better.

what you want is clamping or sealant to encourage clotting and platelet action, then a filler material to occupy the injury site to help prevent further trauma and stave off infection with steriods and anti-bacterials and anti-fungals. pressure bandage and celox or quik-clot being ideal. aren't tampons also sometimes scented or something? that might play badly with wounds vs a vagina which has a completely different flora/fauna and pH level than, say, a punctured chest cavity where you have a sucking chest wound and are losing pressure collapsing a lung. tampon's gauze isn't going to help that, but quik-clot and a pressure bandage will.

i'm not an EMT or anything, but i've been around, and nobody in the field i've ever seen has used a tampon like that. some do use them so they can be unraveled as a compact store of gauze though.
 
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Club Sandwich said:
having completed basic field medical training as well as the US Army SERE medical course, a tampon (especially one with a plastic applicator!!!) isn't designed or even really effective in managing bloodloss in the field. velocity/puncture/GSW usually has components of crushing, tearing, and hyper expansion of soft tissue which causes massive hemorrhaging (bleeding) of the wound site. tampons are generally designed to staunch and absorb blood flow but it does little to encourage clotting or seal/stabilize the injury site. when you're dealing with literally losing a pint of blood over several minutes it's unlikely to absorb all that without becoming overly saturated and useless where a proper medicated dressing would be better.

what you want is clamping or sealant to encourage clotting and platelet action, then a filler material to occupy the injury site to help prevent further trauma and stave off infection with steriods and anti-bacterials and anti-fungals. pressure bandage and celox or quik-clot being ideal. aren't tampons also sometimes scented or something? that might play badly with wounds vs a vagina which has a completely different flora/fauna and pH level than, say, a punctured chest cavity where you have a sucking chest wound and are losing pressure collapsing a lung. tampon's gauze isn't going to help that, but quik-clot and a pressure bandage will.

i'm not an EMT or anything, but i've been around, and nobody in the field i've ever seen has used a tampon like that. some do use them so they can be unraveled as a compact store of gauze though.
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Tampons work great for nosebleeds and periods, but tampons are not absorbent enough for GSW.
 
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How did this tampon myth get started in the first place? I remember hearing about it years ago.
 
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How did this tampon myth get started in the first place? I remember hearing about it years ago.
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When I was in DEP in around 2005 or 2006 there was a story being floated around that a US marine that received tampons in error at a FOB ended up using one in to seal a gunshot wound in a MacGuyver moment. I recall snopes claiming it was unverified. I'm pretty sure Quik Clot was being issued in every USGI IFAK at the same time as it was considered a game changer for battlefield trauma (though it was less of a bandage and more of a powder you pour into a wound and have several teething issues like people ripping the packages open with their mouths and burning themselves on the lips) so I doubt its authenticity.
 
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MG-34 said:
When I was in DEP in around 2005 or 2006 there was a story being floated around that a US marine that received tampons in error at a FOB ended up using one in to seal a gunshot wound in a MacGuyver moment. I recall snopes claiming it was unverified. I'm pretty sure Quik Clot was being issued in every USGI IFAK at the same time as it was considered a game changer for battlefield trauma (though it was less of a bandage and more of a powder you pour into a wound and have several teething issues like people ripping the packages open with their mouths and burning themselves on the lips) so I doubt its authenticity.
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QuikClot was definitely in use as a powder in 2005 like you said, I had it in my kit around that time. The earliest I heard of the tampon method was when the game Army of Two was getting promoted and it had a minigame of stuffing tampons into the wounds of your downed teammates. Almost everyone laughed at it (and it was removed from the final game) it but for some reason it seemed to stick with some people, supposedly due to a similar anecdote of it being used as a last resort by a Blackwater guy.
 
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Tampons definitely don't have a use on the battlefield.... but maxi-pads do. They work well for large & shallow wounds if you're in a hurry, don't need to waste multiple field-dressings, and in a difficult location, esp. when keeping it clean is more of a concern than bloodloss.

As long as the pad can cover the gash, just about anything can be used to keep it in place as long as it doesn't cause unwanted constriction.

Source: my motorpool & clumsy mechanics. It worked well enough that I kept a couple pads in my CLS bag, even though it had a wide variety of dressings, and kept me from having to make the extra trip to the TMC for restocking.
 
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White Devil said:
Ehhh.

I would say beneath the kernels of shit, you can still find good info on arfcom.

/k/ is just shit.
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I would say the same thing about /k/, kernels of good stuff inside piles of shit.

The difference for me at least is that /k/ doesn't take itself seriously (for the most part) and should not ever be expected to be a source of info. Arfcom is an actual forum full of people who are trying to give sincere advice but none of them know shit about shit, which is pretty on form for a forum but still.
 
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