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Dragged Into Sunlight said:
I love that Scott Steiner isnt a character, it's just how Scott Steiner is. One of my favor8te wrestlers at all time. There are so many that have an all time personality but not all time ring skills and vice versa but Scott had both. Two separate HoF worthy careers. As a tag with his brother doing the most absurd moves youve ever seen and then when his body started failing him, he pivoted to the Big Poppa Pump character and made the most hilarious promos in history.

Just look at the ease with which he suplexes THE GIANT in this clip.
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In his second year in WCW, Ric Flair wanted to drop the title to Scott, but Scott refused due to being dedicated to the Stenier Brothers team. It is a shame he never got a good singles run until he was unable to work a passable match, let alone a great one.
 
Samuel Fuller said:
In his second year in WCW, Ric Flair wanted to drop the title to Scott, but Scott refused due to being dedicated to the Steiner Brothers team. It is a shame he never got a good singles run until he was unable to work a passable match, let alone a great one.
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According to Bruce Pritchard (and I think Jim Ross confirmed it too.) Scott was pitched in the writers' room to win one of the Royal Rumbles, I forget if it was '93 or '94 but Vince didn't want see Scott as a singles wrestler.
 
Paradox Mystic said:
According to Bruce Pritchard (and I think Jim Ross confirmed it too.) Scott was pitched in the writers' room to win one of the Royal Rumbles, I forget if it was '93 or '94 but Vince didn't want see Scott as a singles wrestler.
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Scott would have basically got the 1993 Lex Luger push I guess? He might have done well in that role.
 
Kermit the Frog said:
There will definitely be a celebrity at Backlash because Danhausen has a mystery partner against Kit and Miz. They're really wasting a match spot on a PLE for this fucking nonsense.
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Kabuki Warriors weren't on the card at WM, but thank GOD we got to see jelly rolls put McAfee through a table. I was so afraid that an old NFL kicker wasn't going to receive his comeuppance from a formerly obese country rapper with a face that looks like a high school notebook.
 
Would said:
I believe Oba is the first non-Vince “star” and if he cools down then wtf is Triple Nose worth at that point?
Fucker has been through 45 self-proclaimed eras and it’s still the same cast for all of em.
He can’t create stars. He can’t create stories.
All he can create is meek hype and “muh moments” people will forget about weeks later.

“Cody and WM 40 though”, that was a Vince storyline carryover. Whoever dethroned Roman was bound to be a notable moment in WWE history.
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This is intentional. I imagine that TKO's influence is wanting to avoid shit like guys like McGregor being able to dictate terms or make money way out of proportion to what they feel is 'fair.'

Expect more watering down and homogenization.
 
I'm not really shocked that they use ChatGPT for storylines, considering every feud in wwe feels like a 2k universe mode feud/cutscene.
The shocker was that chatGPT can book way better than this, so they must edit the Ai's good ideas and use their shit ideas to tone it down.
 
AAA telenovela update:
The El Grande Americanos had the contract signing for their Mask vs Mask match on May 30th.
Gable Americano had a piece of paper with demands on it. The first was that Kaiser Americano couldn't touch him until their match. Kaiser quickly signed. HOWEVER, the second demand was that Andrea Bazarte, Kaiser's girlfriend, would have to be fired. Kaiser can't believe he let himself be fooled like this! Andrea accepts the condition so Kaiser can have the match. Gable smugly signs and the match is official.

 
Kermit the Frog said:
AAA telenovela update:
The El Grande Americanos had the contract signing for their Mask vs Mask match on May 30th.
Gable Americano had a piece of paper with demands on it. The first was that Kaiser Americano couldn't touch him until their match. Kaiser quickly signed. HOWEVER, the second demand was that Andrea Bazarte, Kaiser's girlfriend, would have to be fired. Kaiser can't believe he let himself be fooled like this! Andrea accepts the condition so Kaiser can have the match. Gable smugly signs and the match is official.
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I love this stuff so much. When Gable loses his mask (I assume), the pop is going to be unreal.
 
Jeff Dunham said:
This has been said ad nauseum but Darby has a Jeff Hardy appeal to him. With the risk of sounding fruity and pretentious, he's an art guy and wrestling is an extension of that. He has a distinct style, look and aesthetic for who his character is - similar to Jeff. Also like Jeff, he's not a talker, but he's smart enough to work around it with his style and cinematic stuff. My biggest peeve personally is his attire. It's hard to cheer for a dude wearing pantyhose like a gang member from a Troma movie. Someone steering some of his choices would benefit him, if he's willing to listen.
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I suspect his later career is going to end up like Jeff. It doesn't matter that Darby doesn't weigh a lot, doing that coffin drop spot is going to lead to him addicted to pain pills and multiple spinal fusions.
Kermit the Frog said:
There will definitely be a celebrity at Backlash because Danhausen has a mystery partner against Kit and Miz. They're really wasting a match spot on a PLE for this fucking nonsense.
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Since he isn't currently incarcerated, Pacman Jones is available. Hell, he is a former tag team championship belt holder.

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Well Intentioned said:
This is intentional. I imagine that TKO's influence is wanting to avoid shit like guys like McGregor being able to dictate terms or make money way out of proportion to what they feel is 'fair.'

Expect more watering down and homogenization.
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Napoleon Blownapart has done a really good video on how TKO is trying make professional boxing even shittier.


In my mind, it's the same thing they want to do with pro-wrestling. The talent get paid next to nothing and have no control on their careers and the investors get all the cash. And the fans have to pay for slop.
Kermit the Frog said:
AAA telenovela update:
The El Grande Americanos had the contract signing for their Mask vs Mask match on May 30th.
Gable Americano had a piece of paper with demands on it. The first was that Kaiser Americano couldn't touch him until their match. Kaiser quickly signed. HOWEVER, the second demand was that Andrea Bazarte, Kaiser's girlfriend, would have to be fired. Kaiser can't believe he let himself be fooled like this! Andrea accepts the condition so Kaiser can have the match. Gable smugly signs and the match is official.

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There are just so many little things I like. They aren't just having Chad play a moron. And kudos to Chad who gets the crowd to react at a snap of his finger. The "hated foreigner" gimmick has been over done to death. It never lasts. They keep establishing that Chad doesn't know Spanish, but at the same time, he gets the better of El Grande Americano at every turn. Chad is just killing it.

My kid freaking hates Chad Gable now when he is in character. It's hilarious.

Working Bazarte into the story line, you get sort of a throw back to Macho Man/Miss Elizabeth vibe. It's a source of weakness for El Grande, without making him look stupid.

And like the run ins. Not just Chad and Ludwig look like they are trying to kill each other, but their underlings, doing runs, look better than it has in years.

I've rambled my old ass in the past about how crazy over the Junkyard Dog was in the Mid South West and the blinding story was so insanely over. This whole storyline feels like this.

Add in the fact I can watch this shit on YouTube instead of some fucking streaming service, I'm to the point I'm only following AAA.
 
JustStopDude said:
Napoleon Blownapart has done a really good video on how TKO is trying make professional boxing even shittier.

https://youtu.be/DchyWORozpk?si=ZW1FQtuyKwqweL3m
In my mind, it's the same thing they want to do with pro-wrestling. The talent get paid next to nothing and have no control on their careers and the investors get all the cash. And the fans have to pay for slop.
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Yep, the video itself dives into WWE a little bit, too, although Napoleon isn't as familiar with WWE as he is with punchsport stuff. A lot of the shit that's been creeping into WWE has TKO's fingerprints all over it.
 
Kermit the Frog said:
AAA telenovela update:
The El Grande Americanos had the contract signing for their Mask vs Mask match on May 30th.
Gable Americano had a piece of paper with demands on it. The first was that Kaiser Americano couldn't touch him until their match. Kaiser quickly signed. HOWEVER, the second demand was that Andrea Bazarte, Kaiser's girlfriend, would have to be fired. Kaiser can't believe he let himself be fooled like this! Andrea accepts the condition so Kaiser can have the match. Gable smugly signs and the match is official.

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Mis kiwis, estoy siendo entretenido por el EnterrAAAdor!!


J50 Hamwich said:
This guy made a titantron animation out of paper cut outs.

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Ha! amateur.
The real pros make a shitty wordart text with generic background animations that felt cheap even during Photoshop 6.0.
 
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Might be late, but apparently we have some logic behind some of the recent cuts - TKO apparently aren't fans of Spooky.

Which I mean, I get it. Undertaker was clearly the exception to the rule, and even then he's essentially retired the Deadman and just shows up as Bikertaker whenever a cheque clears now. Meaning that the closest we're probably getting to a proper Spooky character is going to be Danhausen.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
even then he's essentially retired the Deadman and just shows up as Bikertaker whenever a cheque clears now.
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He retired the Deadman/Phenom. The American Badass is, in Taker’s mind anyway, too close to his real life persona and tastes to actually retire vs use as his public persona.
We never saw the Deadman after he put down the hat and trenchcoat, long before TKO decided spooky doesn’t tickle advertising anus.
 
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