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Dynamite numbers up a bit this week because of Kenneth but of course they had to end the episode with Mox winning against a homegrown guy they'd built up as a real threat before the inevitable Deathriderzzzzzzzz post-match beatdown that gets broken up by the Copester. They are the House of Torture of AEW.

Just have Omega randomly win the belt off Jon on next weeks show and put this entire NWO-lite angle to bed. Mox still has a place in the company but he just isn't top guy material at the moment. Have him run his faction of hardcore dipshits like a dictator and do an angle where he "tests" potential new members by pitting them against each other/his guys. You don't need a belt to have something that matters on the line in this scenario.
 
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THE STRESS said:
We getting Joe Hendry at the Rumble, boys?
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Likely but considering he's booked for the Jericho cruise, it might be safe to say that he's going to have a scheduling conflict. Maybe when the ship reaches the Dominican Republic but who knows?
Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr. said:
I'm not gonna hold my breath, but TNA showing up in any capacity on the WWE 2k games would be pretty cool.
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Honestly, I'm kinda wishing for a new TNA game. Maybe TNA x NXT: Cross The Line '26 or something.
WhimsicalTrolli said:
I think WWE will buy tna by the time this partnership ends.
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To be honest, I feel as though this is more of a working relationship than a full merger. Anthem at this point really doesn't seem to have any reason to sell TNA as it's basically cheap content to get on the air as they have their own networks. Attendance has been solid as well so far but what somewhat concerns me is their venue choices for Rebellion and Slammiversary this year. The choices just seem like too much of a risk for a promotion that just took off this year and with how they were for most of its existence, 20 years at a permanent venue along with bad creative and mismanagement can take a toll on a promotion or a brand. Look at NXT for example when they tried to book the same venue Raw was at for St. Louis back in October but failed to get decent ticket sales so they moved it to a smaller venue and have been doing smaller venue on the road weekly shows ever since.
trent said:
If WWE markets the partnership with TNA properly then AEW could be in a bit of trouble in the future.
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Likely but considering TNA's high expectations for Slammiversary and Rebellion, I wouldn't be so sure. Yeah they did well with last year's Slammiversary and Bound for Glory but those were with venues they are well accustomed to. The concern for me is if the hype can maintain itself long term before it fizzles out. Working with WWE could be a big boost to that hype which they are already doing based on past tapings for Impact and live NXT broadcasts along with their respective PPVs. The Royal Rumble which is coming up next month could also lead to representation from other companies that WWE is already in working relationships with like CyberFight's Pro Wrestling NOAH, Marigold, GCW, Reality of Wrestling, and a few others. Though I have a feeling that with the way things are going, we could see a Worlds Collide PPV somewhere down the road.
 
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CyrusHowler said:
Bad gimmicks aside, Mox is one of the most top guyish top guys they’ve ever had.
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I agree, however the timing of everything couldn't have been any worse. In my mind, the Death Riders gimmick doesn't work, because of the events surrounding and leading into the current dynamic with AEW. Lets rewind 12 months shall we?

- The Elite turn heel and start doing Vince McMahon inspired gimmick in which they control the show how they see fit, holding up title shots and make people grovel to them
- They alter the gimmick slightly due to Vince being ousted as a sexpest, but the premise remains the same with The Elite calling the shots
- AEW show the CM Punk / Jack Perry clip, assuming they'd be in the right. Everyone deems Perry a cuck, CM Punk told no lies. Elite damage control and put Perry in the group
- FTR and other "loyalists" attempt to right the ship and say they don't care, they want the best for AEW

All of this took place during the Samoa Joe and Swerve Strickland title reigns might I add, neither of whom interacted much with the Elite bar Christian being awarded a title shot for being a good bootlicker. Khan rushes a Danielson reign, which leads us too...

- BCC turn heel and start doing a Vince McMahon NWO inspired gimmick in which they control the show how they see fit, holding up title shots and make people grovel to them
- They alter the gimmick slightly due to Vince being ousted as a sexpest BCC sounding like a sexual fetish, but the premise remains the same with The Death Riders calling the shots
- AEW show backstage vignettes of Moxley ranting about desire and his status in the company, assuming he'd be in the right. Everyone deems Jon a loser, CM Punk is main eventing WWE programming
- FTR and other "loyalists" attempt to right the ship and say they don't care, they want the best for AEW

Meanwhile "The Elite" have undergone no actual character development or clashed with the Death Riders on the same scale as others. Had they any ounce of self-awareness, they'd have done "The Corporation" type clash with "The Ministry" in which the suits come to terms with the anarchy unfolding? Maybe even put Khan on a crucifix, lol. Okay. Maybe not that far. Instead they had a petty feud with Private Party and appear to be turning on Jack Perry. Had the roster been able to rise up, blame them and make them feel the same level of misery, it create a natural brooding dynamic of what AEW stands for with a borderline civil war.

It's funny to think that the Dark Order had a perfect promo about this (yes, I know right?) in which Uno admits that Moxley might be right, that the group was at it's best when it was hungry. Instead the other Dark Order members berate him and said to think logically about them having stability now.

AEW have had four faction storylines go nowhere. The Pinnacle did nothing of note but educate even the biggest smarks on MJF's ego, Undisputed Kingdom has yet to do a promo in which all the members are medically cleared. Nor can I see the Elite's current arch or the direction of the Death Riders ending any better either. Whoever Mox drops the title too, if it be Omega or Darby, make the man take a break. Give that entire group a hard reset, elevate PAC and Claudio. Yuta can go to ROH for all I care, just get them away from one another once this is all said and done.
 
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These MJF segments where he goes face to face with someone are so formulaic, it's like a MCU movie. They say yo momma, personal shit but it never feels natural, it's just references so the 4 marks in the audience scream OHHH.

Seems he learned this from Punk as he also has these weird unnatural promo battles that fit better in theater.
 
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I still just don't get the love for Cody. He's OK. The 3-Star general. And that's fine, but that's all I see. An above average wrestler. I don't get where the popularity comes from or why.

I do enjoy how he carries himself, though. He's self aware enough about how retarded wrestling is without going around constantly winking and nudging people about how it's fake, but he's not trying to treat it like it's a serious and real sport deserving of respect. He's got a nice middle ground approach.
But that's about as far as my appreciation and understanding of the Ender of Racism goes.
 
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Caddo Cobgang said:
exactly the problem, they keep trying to save the company by re-hashing the nWo stuff but they keep shelfing whatever the new heel faction is after a few months and forgetting about it, God I hate Tony so much its unreal
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It is bizarre that TK copies NJPW so much but ignores the fact that they handle factions better than anyone because they keep them around for years and have them as a part of their storylines rather than making them the entire storyline.

It makes a big deal out of people leaving/joining, heel/face turns, the entire thing imploding etc.
 
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doesn't dragongate up the stakes with their stables by doing a point system with wins and losses? i could've sworn that's something they did
 
you can always tell when there's a #2 and below in the USA because WWE finds somebody beneath the #2 to work with
 
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Rick The Stick said:
I still just don't get the love for Cody. He's OK. The 3-Star general. And that's fine, but that's all I see. An above average wrestler. I don't get where the popularity comes from or why.

I do enjoy how he carries himself, though. He's self aware enough about how retarded wrestling is without going around constantly winking and nudging people about how it's fake, but he's not trying to treat it like it's a serious and real sport deserving of respect. He's got a nice middle ground approach.
But that's about as far as my appreciation and understanding of the Ender of Racism goes.
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He's another one of those wrestlers where people watch him because of the chase for the championship but once he's champion, the people that wanted him in that position get bored of him and don't care anymore.
 
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ChunkyKong said:
I could see them doing it just to get the Tape Library since most of the legends and current stars have footage there. Just continue to grow the vault.
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To be honest, I don't know why people continue to push these speculations but clearly some IWC nutjobs on Xitter thought WWE would be buying TNA based on some vague announcement from Triple H last year. I never bought into the rumors because they lacked a lot of evidence and it is clear that they still lack that evidence. Closest we ever legitimately got to that was WWE almost buying Pro Wrestling NOAH but they still got WWE's attention even if they were not bought. However, NOAH was in a similar situation to what TNA was in during the 2010s but under different circumstances. Mainly Yakuza involvement which almost killed the company after Mitsuharu Misawa died. As some of you might know, having Yakuza ties can be quite controversial in Japan. However, the Yakuza incident that almost killed Pro Wrestling NOAH was caused by a Yakuza couple who sponsored wrestlers by scamming old people out of their money. They even scammed the widow of Misawa.
 
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