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are you people for fucking real or do I wear crazy goggles when I read shit
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/shrug? I dunno, man, I'm just trying to make sense of weird shit.

EDIT: There's also a lot of context missing, too. Even though certain things were clarified in the bloodletting thread, there's still a lot us plebs don't know.
 
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Really, to me it looks more like Snakes kinda ganging up on Panda, who is being civil, & Glaive who's just kind of there, at least near the end. It also seems like, for the most part, Glaive seems more concerned about Pandas supposedly talking shit about Snakes than Snakes herself.
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Snakes and Pandas were both just bitchy girls having a spat. Both are probably at fault.
 
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Okay, so. I've torn pretty harshly into @Null already. I stand by literally everything I've said. I think Null gets emotional and transfers those emotions into a biased interpretation of fact. But we're all guilty of that to some extent or another, and there's still something that needs to be said because to leave this unsaid would be patently unfair to Null.

Glaive is a liar. Null is 100% and absolutely correct on that score.

I'm not talking about a dishonest person who lies to keep himself out of trouble or malign his enemies. I'm talking about a compulsive liar who constantly tells pointless lies for no conceivable reason or benefit to himself or anyone else. I say this as Glaive's friend. Like Null, I've seen Glaive's soft gooey interior. I know what type of person Glaive is. I know he's a good person at heart and despite what I'm about to say, I still consider him my friend. But he lies. He lies to everyone. He lies to me. In the past few weeks I've caught him out in multiple lies he's told me personally. There has been no discernible pattern or payoff to these lies. For the longest time I doubted it because I considered Glaive is a friend. But at some point, the obvious becomes obvious. Either Glaive is telling pointless and meaningless lies on a regular and consistent basis, or dozens of people are conspiring to frame him for it.

So I've done some digging. A huge amount of disseminated rumours and gossip trace their lineage directly back to Glaive. Just what I can think of now, off the top of my head.

1. He lied about WC just being a ruse. That's the biggest one.
2. He lied about being stalked and harassed by a female member of the boards, who was one of his purported friends
3. He lied about having a joint bank account with snakes.
4. He made the vast majority of drama-causing /cow/ posts against other kiwis, such as the ones Null thought came from Pine Tar
5. I am convinced to a moral certainty that he is responsible for passing malicious rumours to two different forum users, both of whom he was in internet relationships with at different times, deliberately setting them against each other in a cycle of catty, vicious, girl-hate and indelibly damaging both of their reputations here
6. He's lied about the current status of snakes and tyce's relationship
7. He claimed Waifu told him Null doxed his girlfriend in the shitbox. Waifu knew nothing about this.

There's more, of course, but I'm not going to go digging through logs over this. The pattern is clear enough to me.

The day I have to trust fucking Waifu over a friend is a dark day indeed. But that's what things have come to. I love Glaive. I will always love Glaive. But I'm not blind to his flaws, and it's unfair that I'd pillory Null so harshly without turning the same attention to Glaive. Glaive's not here to defend himself, so I was very reluctant to make this post. But I'm making it for the same reason I made my last post. People need to know it's okay to challenge Null's percieved worldview. But they also need to know they should be careful about assuming anything Glaive says is truthful just because there's no discernible motive for him to lie about it. Hell, a lot of the nasty shit Null believes about Glaive and Snakes relationship came directly from Glaive himself, and some of it even seems to date back to when they were still together. I honestly don't know why Glaive is making up random lies with no conceivable benefit to him or anyone else. It's very likely that I'll never know why he's doing it. I know only that he's doing it and that there's two or three particular forumites with nasty rumours floating around them, and practically every malicious rumour I track back to its source stops at Glaive.

You might consider this me betraying Glaive's friendship. I'm sure Glaive himself will consider it a betrayal. I don't know what to call it. How can I know what to call it when I honestly don't even know where I stand?

This is not how you do #pronks, Glaive.
 
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Dynastia said:
Okay, so. I've torn pretty harshly into @Null already. I stand by literally everything I've said. I think Null gets emotional and transfers those emotions into a biased interpretation of fact. But we're all guilty of that to some extent or another, and there's still something that needs to be said because to leave this unsaid would be patently unfair to Null.

Glaive is a liar. Null is 100% and absolutely correct on that score.

I'm not talking about a dishonest person who lies to keep himself out of trouble or malign his enemies. I'm talking about a compulsive liar who constantly tells pointless lies for no conceivable reason or benefit to himself or anyone else. I say this as Glaive's friend. Like Null, I've seen Glaive's soft gooey interior. I know what type of person Glaive is. I know he's a good person at heart and despite what I'm about to say, I still consider him my friend. But he lies. He lies to everyone. He lies to me. In the past few weeks I've caught him out in multiple lies he's told me personally. There has been no discernible pattern or payoff to these lies. For the longest time I doubted it because I considered Glaive is a friend. But at some point, the obvious becomes obvious. Either Glaive is telling pointless and meaningless lies on a regular and consistent basis, or dozens of people are conspiring to frame him for it.

So I've done some digging. A huge amount of disseminated rumours and gossip trace their lineage directly back to Glaive. Just what I can think of now, off the top of my head.

1. He lied about WC just being a ruse. That's the biggest one.
2. He lied about being stalked and harassed by a female member of the boards, who was one of his purported friends
3. He lied about having a joint bank account with snakes.
4. He made the vast majority of drama-causing /cow/ posts against other kiwis, such as the ones Null thought came from Pine Tar
5. I am convinced to a moral certainty that he is responsible for passing malicious rumours to two different forum users, both of whom he was in internet relationships with at different times, deliberately setting them against each other in a cycle of catty, vicious, girl-hate and indelibly damaging both of their reputations here
6. He's lied about the current status of snakes and tyce's relationship
7. He claimed Waifu told him Null doxed his girlfriend in the shitbox. Waifu knew nothing about this.

There's more, of course, but I'm not going to go digging through logs over this. The pattern is clear enough to me.

The day I have to trust fucking Waifu over a friend is a dark day indeed. But that's what things have come to. I love Glaive. I will always love Glaive. But I'm not blind to his flaws, and it's unfair that I'd pillory Null so harshly without turning the same attention to Glaive. Glaive's not here to defend himself, so I was very reluctant to make this post. But I'm making it for the same reason I made my last post. People need to know it's okay to challenge Null's percieved worldview. But they also need to know they should be careful about assuming anything Glaive says is truthful just because there's no discernible motive for him to lie about it. Hell, a lot of the nasty shit Null believes about Glaive and Snakes relationship came directly from Glaive himself, and some of it even seems to date back to when they were still together. I honestly don't know why Glaive is making up random lies with no conceivable benefit to him or anyone else. It's very likely that I'll never know why he's doing it. I know only that he's doing it and that there's two or three particular forumites with nasty rumours floating around them, and practically every malicious rumour I track back to its source stops at Glaive.

You might consider this me betraying Glaive's friendship. I'm sure Glaive himself will consider it a betrayal. I don't know what to call it. How can I know what to call it when I honestly don't even know where I stand?

This is not how you do #pronks, Glaive.
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Goddamn it all. Thanks, @Dynastia , for clearing that up for us. *sigh* This makes a lot more sense now.
 
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Dynastia said:
There's more, of course, but I'm not going to go digging through logs over this. The pattern is clear enough to me.

The day I have to trust fucking Waifu over a friend is a dark day indeed. But that's what things have come to. I love Glaive. I will always love Glaive. But I'm not blind to his flaws, and it's unfair that I'd pillory Null so harshly without turning the same attention to Glaive. Glaive's not here to defend himself, so I was very reluctant to make this post. But I'm making it for the same reason I made my last post. People need to know it's okay to challenge Null's percieved worldview. But they also need to know they should be careful about assuming anything Glaive says is truthful just because there's no discernible motive for him to lie about it. Hell, a lot of the nasty shit Null believes about Glaive and Snakes relationship came directly from Glaive himself, and some of it even seems to date back to when they were still together. I honestly don't know why Glaive is making up random lies with no conceivable benefit to him or anyone else. It's very likely that I'll never know why he's doing it. I know only that he's doing it and that there's two or three particular forumites with nasty rumours floating around them, and practically every malicious rumour I track back to its source stops at Glaive.

You might consider this me betraying Glaive's friendship. I'm sure Glaive himself will consider it a betrayal. I don't know what to call it. How can I know what to call it when I honestly don't even know where I stand?

This is not how you do #pronks, Glaive.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Dynastia. This is something I've also noticed off-hand but I didn't really care enough to document it.

I noticed whenever some new big drama would occur Glaive would usually have all of the information about it. Like I remember the day the Chris Mercer shooting occurred everyone thought it was Eggman who did it. When I entered chat that day I asked around what was going on and Glaive said it was "confirmed" he did it.

That was something that stood out to me since it was later revealed Chris Mercer did it. But I noticed Glaive had a pattern of doing this (although he'd later admit to just "joking" about it). Literally the only reason I can think of why Glaive would do such a thing is for attention.

Like Dynastia I consider Glaive a friend and this entire recent drama confuses me a great deal. I've asked around with other members and almost everyone universally agrees it shouldn't have escalated to this degree.
 
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Oh oops. I never released this album to protect the parties involved and to help curb embarrassment with Glaive. No staff is unaware of this, so that's a fib, but this is the encounter attached. It's a series of PMs that I can only describe as cringeworthy. I've heard from Snakes on other accounts that she would tell people Glaive is her boyfriend an admin and thus they should do what she says.

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Yeah, don't give a shit. You seem to take "something that should be dealt with among involved parties" and turn it into "forum topic for people to bitch and/or take sides in."

Fucking stupid. Grow some balls and act like someone who isn't an autist who needs to grab forum members to justify yourself.
 
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