GLITCH Productions - From the guys that brought you the Super Mario 64 bloopers

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Funny creators who go on to unfortunately become libtards. I don't know why it's so common but fuck it's depressing. *sigh*

Seriously, SMG4 isn't even a shadow of what it once was. As bad as Modern SML is, there's still a resemblance to what came before it; you can still tell that Mario and Marvin are supposedly the same character, and there's still an effort to maintain the politically incorrect humor that made the series so iconic in the first place. Classic SMG4 and Modern SMG4 don't feel like the same series. The best example of this is SMG4 himself:


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These two entities are supposed to be the same person, but if you watch an episode of SMG4 of each, you get the feeling that they are not the same character, neither in appearance nor in personality, hell, they don't even have the same name: the guy on the left is called SuperMarioGlitchy4, the guy on the right is called SuperMemeGuardian4 (yes, seriously, they retconned what SMG4 stands for).

SuperMarioGlitchy4 is intelligent, but not overly so, as he has his moments of stupidity. He's the voice of reason, contrasting with Mario's stupidity and rudeness. He's the straight man in a world full of stupid people.

SuperMemeGuardian4 is.... whatever. He doesn't have a defined personality. Is he dumb? Is he smart? We don't know. The writing in Modern SMG4 is so incompetent that they can't decide what his personality actually is. The closest thing he has to having a personality is that he's literally OBSESSED with memes, a joke that was never funny and quickly becomes annoying. I get the feeling the writers don't know what to do with him, but are still forced to include him since the show is named after him. He's easily the least interesting character in the current main cast. He is simply whatever the plot demands him to be. Well, it could be a lot worse...


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Poor SMG3... He deserves much better.
 
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Just pointing this out but James Bailey (One of Glitch's editors and @Not_Jame on Twitter) seems to have some weird obsessive hatred for MrBeast. He tweets/RTs stuff about the guy every other day.

https://x.com/Not_Jame?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

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There's something hilariously ironic about this considering Mr. Beast himself actually visited Glitch Productions last year.
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Unless people take issue with it I'm gonna use this thread just to highlight how politically spergy Glitch's employees are, young and old.

https://x.com/FM54321/status/1961651956293742811

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Seems Glitch has quite a few folks like this unfortunately...
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There's something hilariously ironic about this considering Mr. Beast himself actually visited Glitch Productions last year.
Interesting... So either something changed since then, or they're just pussies that won't say it to his face. I don't like Mr. Beast either but like, what a bunch of bitches.
Or it could also be Glitch doesn't just understand opsec so they don't care what their talents are spewing online, even if it by transit makes them look retarded.
Or both. Probably both.
 
No problem. There aren't really any other places where you can talk about this show without being dogpiled by insane Tumblritas and dumb children for disagreeing with them (or if there's one, I have yet to hear about it). I tried using 4chan to avoid those two groups, but the threads there are so bad that they got expelled from /co/ twice (oy vey). There's nothing there worth seeing—you will only find endless coomposting (half of them are done by Xitter artists browsing those threads) and pointless drama related to an altchan they colonized after getting shoah'd for the first time. Say anything negative (literally anything negative) in their threads once, and they will accuse you of being one of their boogeymen, thus derailing the entire thread for hours at least.
The subreddit is for mostly just posting fanart, but they are actually a little bit willing to discuss criticism of the show, it doesn't get brought up too much (because everyone there low-key knows it really isn't that good), when it does, they are honest about how they feel about it.

You talk about going to 4chan...yeah don't go there, it isn't that bad nowadays because its mostly coomers posting and occasional fan works, but when the show was still going they DID NOT like anyone talking bad about the show at all, saying anyone who didn't like it was just filtered by the pilot and just didn't understand the plot, as if that's the only thing that was bad about the show, it's one of the very few cases where reddit is actually better than 4chan when it comes to discussion in all categories

I really, really hope that all of the people saying Murder Drones was amazing now are just stupid kids that don't understand how storytelling works and hopefully when they grow up they'll realize how fucking dogshit it was and maybe we'll get a few video essays breaking down everything wrong with it. :story: That's me being :optimistic: though.
you are 100% right about the Murder Drones audience being full of kids btw,I have encountered many kids of probably about 10-14 years of age on youtube where they have one of the robots as their pfp or proudly lists the show as one of their interests

There was this one hour long essay critiquing MD that I sadly didn't think to save for later so I have no idea how to find it now
 
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it was just filtered by the pilot and just didn't understand the plot
I'd love to hear them explain to me what the plot is supposed to be besides
  • N is good boy, V and J are meanie (But V maybe not so mean??? Okay, no, she's still kind of a horrible bitch.)
  • Uzi is weird and nobody likes her but also she gets cool powers because plot!
  • Cyn is also here and she is evil and wants to destroy the galaxy!
  • And then they fight!
:story:Cause that's basically all it amounted to since they never bother to answer any of the interesting questions.
 
First impressions:
I like the industrial grime, and how thought out a lot of the machines and designs are. The engineer grease monkey characters are wearing appropriately baggy and utilitarian uniforms, I love stuff like that. The big robot thing that shows up at the end is really cool, so is the machine they put Gwen in, I like how it moves and how it interacts with her. I appreciate that we don't actually see the park for most of the pilot, because you understand the atmosphere it has just by how Guinevere acts.
Everyone thinks they can do a hackneyed cyberpunk setting but this one has some elements I like, even if they aren't fully original.

I can see the angle they're going for, this is similar to towns like Celebration in Florida, or Hershey in Pennsylvania. Company towns where the culture is keeping the park running and resenting tourists. I wish the iconography the park used was a little more interesting but eh the park isn't the interesting part.

The two leads are boring, we have the hyperactive one and the stressed neurotic one. It's been done. They'll probably be fleshed out later but for now they're just serviceable, and their designs are just okay. I like the detail that Frank is missing teeth because her boss removes them when she fucks up.
I'm wondering if Andy and Gwen calling Frank "Francesca" and the old man character calling her "Franklin" is meant to mean something, but I can't say right now. Maybe it's her last name, maybe she's actually a dude.

I know it's a pilot but I really hate saying "they'll probably get into that later". And of course in the credits they're immediately advertising the plushies and shirts. Cause that's how these shows actually make money. Although the hoodie I would actually wear.

I give it a 7/10, good stuff going on but a lot of the non machine stuff isn't very interesting.

TL;DR, it's pretty good, like the setting but the characters could use some work.
 
I thought it was pretty solid. Pacing was a lot more tame compared to Gaslight District's pilot.

The use of blue blood for the machines is very clever. It's great foreshadowing for when Orvillebot's red blood seeps through the door to show Gwen killed him.

I like how while they’re clearly condemning corporate practices, the pilot still advocates for creators and the art they make. Frankie genuinely admires the magic that Guinevere is associated with. Meanwhile, Andi is hated by the public because she works for Park Planet even though she's just doing it to survive. Good commentary on how anti-capitalists miss the point of the system they say they hate.

The one thing I wish we got to see more of was the horror. The opening with Olivia using Gwen's intestine as a leash is a great way to show how sadistic she is, and hearing the offline Gwen scream in terror was a pretty chilling moment. There just wasn't as much robot gore as I hoped there would be.

Also, one thing I find funny is that Gwen is voiced by the bully from The Owl House (the pink one, not the love interest), which makes me think Dana Terrace asked Eden Riegel if she wanted to star in her new show the second The Owl House wrapped up.

Overall, I thought it was pretty good. Can't wait to see where the story goes.
 
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Knights of Guinevere was ok. Better than I was expecting. AMAAAAAZING special effects animations.

Too much exposition and boring MCs were the worst part. I hope Andrea doesn't bitch and moan the whole series if it goes beyond this pilot. Francesca was okay but she looks like Greg Universe.

Also, idk if my pattern recognition is going off the charts, but I got Battle Angel vibes (manga, I've never seen the live action movie).
 
To be honest, I found the pilot kinda weak compared to the other main 3 shows (TADC, Gaslight and even Murder Drones), but it's still pretty good.

Don't think I can add anything more on what other people have already said. Robot gore is cool and I love the industrial/heavy machinery setting, I hope they focus more on that aspect and the whole mystery/suspense of Guinevere, rather than the gay character drama the Owl House is known for.

This is also the best pacing I've seen for a GLITCH show... which isn't saying a lot in the grand scheme of things, but curse me if every other show didn't feel like an ADHD trip lol.

All in all, Dana "DISNEY ARE LITERAL NAZIS" Terrace definetly exceeded my expectations, I just really, really, REALLY hope she doesn't pull the rug under me and make the other 7 episodes to be about "toxic yuri lesbians being silly and quirky and funny and xD", because heavens forbid a man to watch cartoon androids bleed on YouTube.
 
That was actually pretty good ngl, I like the art direction they were going, animation was too choppy for my liking, but I guess that's how they can make the animation cheaper to produce, a little jarring cause the 3D animations of Glitch were way smoother

Easily the aspect I liked the most is how the worldbuilding was mostly diegetic and natural with relatively little exposition, just the aesthetic, dialogue, and behavior of the people inhabiting it told plenty about the setting, it's in my opinion that the best way to worldbuild is to just let it speak itself to the viewer, and I have to commend Dana for that alone, its something both MD and TADC never really did all that well.

The main characters are okay, they're at least likable as protagonists, they don't have any particularly strong personalities that shined through the episode, Frankie is quite childish and a little more optimistic about her outlook on life, while Andrea is the more serious and straightforward one, I'm actually surprised they aren't romantically paired yet at the start like I assumed and are CFs, so I guess that's just something that'll develop over the course of the season, but as of right now they're essentially random bystanders who stumbled into the plot, we'll just have to wait if they blossom into something more.

btw the Gwen robot design is just...*chef's kiss* good shit pal.
 
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Yeah, gotta say, looks good.

I never got around to watch Terrance's Owl House, I was under the impression that they were rehashing Gravity Falls, so I don't really have much reference on her style.

But when it comes to pilots, more so when it is the introduction of a series instead of an episodic show, there is a saying in theather that always comes to mind "everybody can write a first act".

Fiction is full of interesting ideas that either go nowhere or dispoint, so I guess we have to wait and see. But I do hope it gets picked up.

But so far, I'm not in love with the Glitch stuff, Murder drones is painfully Deviant Art amateur hour and Digital Circus relies too much on the intriging premisse without having to deliver anything besides some heartstring pulling.
 
But when it comes to pilots, more so when it is the introduction of a series instead of an episodic show, there is a saying in theather that always comes to mind "everybody can write a first act".

Fiction is full of interesting ideas that either go nowhere or dispoint, so I guess we have to wait and see. But I do hope it gets picked up.

But so far, I'm not in love with the Glitch stuff, Murder drones is painfully Deviant Art amateur hour and Digital Circus relies too much on the intriging premisse without having to deliver anything besides some heartstring pulling.
A worrying trend I see with modern shows, especially modern cartoons like these glitch ones is that they are kind of defined by having a fandom. They know people will be making theories, they know people will buy merch, they know people will participate in a fandom around their show. It becomes predictable.
I don't want to call it a symptom because it's mean spirited, but I think this is a product of animation fans and artists coming up on the fandom boom from last decade having a presence in the creative field. They know what will become a meme, they know what characters will become heart throbs, they know what it was like to be in a fandom based around a cartoon. The internet exacerbates this.

To some extent I don't blame them, fandoms are fun, and if I was making a cartoon I would also probably try and recreate the experience I enjoyed when I was younger. But it leads to nothing existing in a vacuum, and nothing being able to speak for itself. It also leads to pandering to online culture, which outside of dedicated cult followings is very flash in the pan with a low attention span. The same thing happened to Rick and Morty, the show was cool and hot for a year, and instead of taking risks it bought its own hype, jumped the shark, and became uncool again.
I hope the same does not happen with Glitch, because it would be disappointing to see so much young talent, and resources and networking that artists who worked before the internet could only dream of, being wasted on pandering to fandom.

I hope Knights of Guinever isn't a theory bait mystery box circle jerk that winks at the audience.
 
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