Global Supply Chain Crisis 2021: Megathread - A cozy thread for watching the supply chain fall apart just in time for the holidays

[George Lucas]

He's a master.

Especially after his super hot girlfriend left him for Ben Shapiro.

Am I the only person who doesn’t think Abbey Shapiro is hot?

 

[Desu Mountain]

Am I the only person who doesn’t think Abbey Shapiro is hot?

She's hot from the neck down.

 

[Nate Higgers]

Ah so I ordered tires yesterday because although it said they were available, I figured that was bullshit based my experience late last year buying tires for another car. Got a call saying it is actually a 60 day back order. That's fine, I don't need them now, but yeah...

I ordered tires a couple days ago. Fuckin $100/tire for some Hankooks, or $60/tire for some Chinese rubber. After the “tire disposal fees” and “installation fees”, came out to about $600. I hate the antichrist.

 

[AbendCode12]

Null is right. The supply chains are run by computers. If someone from decades ago were to look at our supply system, though would call it an Expect System, or AI for short. When there is a shortage in a chain of stores, the supply chain will purchase more at the existing price. If the price from the supplier rises due to inflation, then the chain of stores will wait until all the chains have sufficiently low enough quantities to return the existing stock due to contractual clauses or the stock is exhausted due to purchases before buying at the higher price. There isn't enough leadership at medium to large companies to cut through this bureaucracy, since these supply shortages are temporary and don't affect stock price. It will just seem like to the consumer random occurrences of supply shock. The computers run the systems and the people don't interfere. If anything the manufacturers and distributors will want to encourage panic buying since it will likely result in fewer returns. Stores will happily shelf units that are days from expiration in the hopes that it will purchased and not returned.

Ironically, there are too few people to handle the workload of adjusting to disruptions to the modern supply chain predictive algorithms, so the consumer suffers. This is fine because it doesn't impact the share holders. The product isn't the product. Financialization and stock buy backs took care of that. The executives and the corporate board are the customers.

Traditional procurement is the procurement methodology that has existed for decades - sourcing materials, products and services across a range of organizational functions. Traditional procurement uses manual processes to complete the tasks necessary here - identifying a supplier, sourcing desired goods or services, requesting delivery, invoicing and payment, and supplier relationship management. These tasks are often undertaken by a procurement team, with each team member working to fulfill a specific function - some might file paperwork, while others might work to publish catalogs, and others still may work with the finance team in order to ensure that supplier payments are completed timeously.

These manual processes - physically filling out paperwork, filing documents, and creating requests - has, as mentioned above, been the accepted system for decades, around the world and in every industry. However, with the advent of cloud software, new opportunities that increase the efficiency of business operations have arisen at a rapid rate. One of the business functions affected is procurement, available in a new form: eProcurement.

https://www.supplychainpartner.com/resources/eprocurement-vs-traditional-procurement

If you know of any independently operated stores not closed by COVID, that don't work Just In Time, then you will be mostly unaffected by the disruptions, but you may have to wait two weeks to get something ordered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ4z0QhD92Y

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Are these supply chain issues ever going to go away, or are they "The New Normal"?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Are these supply chain issues ever going to go away, or are they "The New Normal"?

Eventually things will re-stabilize, but it might take years. We'll eventually see manufacturers give up Just in Time or actually learn what the Toyota method actually means instead of the crib notes version they currently do.

Longer term, expect local manufacturing to start becoming a thing again, especially if Trump wins a third time in 2024.

The era of madness, where you ship shit from one country to another willy-nilly, is coming to an end.

 

[Toolbox]

Are these supply chain issues ever going to go away, or are they "The New Normal"?

They can normalize if people force them to normalize. Every western country should start moving manufacturing back into their countries, should have begun two years ago, if not before.

 

[AbendCode12]

Are these supply chain issues ever going to go away, or are they "The New Normal"?

Not in America. But don’t let that get you down. Instead live the life you want and try not to dwell on consumer goods. Get married. Start a family. Strengthen your kinship with your blood relatives. Go to church and have faith in The Lord. The good times came and the good times are leaving. But you can have a family and the love that comes with it.

If the reset happens, then you’ll have nothing and be resentful. If the collapse happens, then you’ll wish you were in better terms with the local criminal cartels. If we stay locked in this stalemate, then things will tend to go sideways and loopy like we are seeing.

Isaiah 40:31​

But they who wait for the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not faint.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Get married. Start a family.

>getting married and having kids in this world in 2020+

Also while being too materialistic isn't good, it's kind of annoying when necessities aren't available.

 

[potato in mah painus]

Eventually things will re-stabilize, but it might take years. We'll eventually see manufacturers give up Just in Time or actually learn what the Toyota method actually means instead of the crib notes version they currently do.

Longer term, expect local manufacturing to start becoming a thing again, especially if Trump wins a third time in 2024.

The era of madness, where you ship shit from one country to another willy-nilly, is coming to an end.

Trump will not be allowed a republican nomination in 2024, and the EPA (in its current form, not the full blown go green utopia powers it will have eventually) pretty much makes setting up traditional industry impossible.

What you say will only happen once half the country burns, those of us in our 40s won't live long enough to see the country recover from that.

 

[Toolbox]

Trump will not be allowed a republican nomination in 2024, and the EPA (in its current form, not the full blown go green utopia powers it will have eventually) pretty much makes setting up traditional industry impossible.

What you say will only happen once half the country burns, those of us in our 40s won't live long enough to see the country recover from that.

There's worse things coming than Trump for the 'ruling class' as it is, and even with their ego they probably know it at this point. It's just they still want to follow through with their incredibly lofty, retardedly reality rejecting ambitions of the great reset so they'll keep doing the same things they've been doing until society as it is right now collapses.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The era of madness, where you ship shit from one country to another willy-nilly, is coming to an end.

Every western country should start moving manufacturing back into their countries, should have begun two years ago, if not before.

"Outsourcing" was an "exceptional" idea to begin with.

Seems it could be driven by greed too, like using sweatshops in China to "maximize profit margins".

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Eventually things will re-stabilize, but it might take years. We'll eventually see manufacturers give up Just in Time or actually learn what the Toyota method actually means instead of the crib notes version they currently do.

Longer term, expect local manufacturing to start becoming a thing again, especially if Trump wins a third time in 2024.

The era of madness, where you ship shit from one country to another willy-nilly, is coming to an end.

Not only that, shipping from country to country makes sense, if you have shit that is literally only in one country, going to another that doesn't have it.

We do gobsmacking retarded stuff like shipping goods out to be processed or packaged and sent back, food out to be processed and sent back. Or countries shipping out wheat or iron or whatever to one country while importing wheat and iron or whatever from another country.

That has to end.

 

[Blasterisk]

>getting married and having kids in this world in 2020+

"Oh no, the world is too awful to ever have kids" has been a thing since the 1960s, and the vast majority of the people who now subscribe to it wouldn't be around if it was an idea worth following. But, yeah, bet the Cold War's gonna turn hot any second now and kill us all so let's just smoke weed dude.

Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a town and spend a year there, doing business and making money.” Yet you do not even know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes. Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wishes, we will live and do this or that.” As it is, you boast in your arrogance; all such boasting is evil.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"Oh no, the world is too awful to ever have kids" has been a thing since the 1960s

Regardless of what modern "society" or The Narrative™ says on having kids or not having kids, I personally don't like the idea of bringing kids into this world as it is now. Also I think those who think it's a bad idea to have kids started thinking that later, or were born to those who didn't oppose having kids in this world.

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

Update from my job:

Certain piece parts for the JT-15D series of Pratt and Whitney engines have a lead time of 475 days. You read that right: about a year and four months.
Customers need their parts back (ideally) within a couple weeks. Pratt's answer thus far has been "lmao figure it out [company name]". This makes that 90 day lead time on small exit duct heat shields I last posted about look momentary in comparison. We have lost business because of that, too. If I have to quote certain models of small exit duct for heat shield replacement the customer will respond with "please return the part as is" where they would've approved the part for overhaul before.

It's honestly been pretty frustrating

 

[Nate Higgers]

Update from my job:

Certain piece parts for the JT-15D series of Pratt and Whitney engines have a lead time of 475 days. You read that right: about a year and four months.
Customers need their parts back (ideally) within a couple weeks. Pratt's answer thus far has been "lmao figure it out [company name]". This makes that 90 day lead time on small exit duct heat shields I last posted about look momentary in comparison. We have lost business because of that, too. If I have to quote certain models of small exit duct for heat shield replacement the customer will respond with "please return the part as is" where they would've approved the part for overhaul before.

It's honestly been pretty frustrating

What applications are those engines usually used in? Planes? What kind of planes?

 

[Mr. Skeltal]

What applications are those engines usually used in? Planes? What kind of planes?

Business jets, typically. The 15D is a turbofan engine.

The heat shield thing was for the PT6 (turboprop) that's typically used for regional cargo/passenger/agriculture, though I have seen some military end use parts come through the door.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Not only that, shipping from country to country makes sense, if you have shit that is literally only in one country, going to another that doesn't have it.

We do gobsmacking retarded stuff like shipping goods out to be processed or packaged and sent back, food out to be processed and sent back. Or countries shipping out wheat or iron or whatever to one country while importing wheat and iron or whatever from another country.

That has to end.

That's called arbitrage. Demand and supply for fungible commodities (like iron and wheat) fluctuate all the time, which can cause gluts and supply shocks even when you have a sensible stockpiling strategy. Arbitrage smooths out the supply and allows demand to be met more effectively. The problem isn't the arbitrage, it's the fact that corporations (and nations) have outsourced so much to single points of failure and don't have any sort of contingency planning for supply chain issues.

 

[NyQuilninja]

That's called arbitrage. Demand and supply for fungible commodities (like iron and wheat) fluctuate all the time, which can cause gluts and supply shocks even when you have a sensible stockpiling strategy. Arbitrage smooths out the supply and allows demand to be met more effectively. The problem isn't the arbitrage, it's the fact that corporations (and nations) have outsourced so much to single points of failure and don't have any sort of contingency planning for supply chain issues.

So what you're saying is are world leaders are greedy corrupt pantshitting retards.