GOG says "we will not tolerate review bombing" after Hitman release sparks online DRM backlash

Remember,

Back the Gamergate days GoG went full retard with "If you don't like Diversity and Inclusion then you can feel free to not buy our stuff" them getting butthurt because they backtracked on their "Our Games won't have DRM because DRM is bad for the customers" to suck the Corpo Tit shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
 
Remember,

Back the Gamergate days GoG went full retard with "If you don't like Diversity and Inclusion then you can feel free to not buy our stuff" them getting butthurt because they backtracked on their "Our Games won't have DRM because DRM is bad for the customers" to suck the Corpo Tit shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
Do you have any proof about GoG going full retard during GG days? Because I remember them getting trashed by gaming journos for posting a gif of the Postal Dude pissing on the grave of gaming journalism and lots of tumbrl/twitterfags along with journos calling GoG as Nazi's and white supremacists.
 
Do you have any proof about GoG going full retard during GG days? Because I remember them getting trashed by gaming journos for posting a gif of the Postal Dude pissing on the grave of gaming journalism and lots of tumbrl/twitterfags along with journos calling GoG as Nazi's and white supremacists.
I recall them putting out a tweet about Diversity and Inclusion and how bad mysoggyknees are. It was a long time ago so I don't have the details at hand but When a company says "Well don't buy from us" I listen.
 
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You have to love it when customer service drones step in and just pour gasoline on an already burning dumpster fire. I have yet not to see this happen.
What's with community managers fucking shit up lately? the most recent example i have is the saints row twitter nigger being snappy at their fans for the woke row reboot.
Also, how do you easily fix this?
1 - Remove DRM.
or
2 - DON'T SELL YOUR GAME ON FUCKING GOG IF YOU CAN'T REMOVE THE DRM.
GOG niggers are right to complain about a DRM game in their No-DRM store, like the "no girls allowed" thingy.
 
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What's with community managers fucking shit up lately? the most recent example i have is the saints row twitter nigger being snappy at their fans for the woke row reboot.

"Community managers" are, by definition, the absolute dumbest and most useless people involved in game production in any capacity. They have none of the technical or artistic skills needed for a frontline development job, and they're not smart or ambitious enough to work on the publishing side, where the corporate money and cushy hours are. Basically, their only qualification is knowing how to use Twitter and Reddit. Most of them probably only have their jobs as a direct result of nepotism.
 
The only reason to buy games off of GOG is no DRM. Way to fuck up the only thing you're good for.
personally after smearing shit all over themselves blatantly lying why they decided not to put devotion on the store "after many messages from gamers" I stopped buying on gog completely, and most of the time it doesn't even make a difference: the only ones who can afford DRM are AA+ games, which you hardly see on gog in the first place. the majority of indie games don't have it (maybe steamworks, but even then it depends to what extend it's implemented), so steam is nothing more than a glorified downloader the same way galaxy is.

What's with community managers fucking shit up lately? the most recent example i have is the saints row twitter nigger being snappy at their fans for the woke row reboot.
low effort low requirement job, usually filled by women "because they can better talk with people" (guess stereotypes aren't bad when they work in your favor). as such if you have to hire women to not get fined it's the preferred place to dump them after HR.

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"Community managers" are, by definition, the absolute dumbest and most useless people involved in game production in any capacity. They have none of the technical or artistic skills needed for a frontline development job, and they're not smart or ambitious enough to work on the publishing side, where the corporate money and cushy hours are. Basically, their only qualification is knowing how to use Twitter and Reddit. Most of them probably only have their jobs as a direct result of nepotism.
that changed over time tho, in the same way their job changed. back then when communities where smaller and you could actually interact with them you actually needed some social skills and knowing what you were talking about. not so much being in charge posting the latest PR blurb released by marketing on social media...
 
that changed over time tho, in the same way their job changed. back then when communities where smaller and you could actually interact with them you actually needed some social skills and knowing what you were talking about. not so much being in charge posting the latest PR blurb marketing released on social media...

>social skills
>posting on forums full of sped fanboys

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But the issue is that Hitman 2016 was always with DRM. What, do these idiots just assume that when it went on GoG the devs are gonna magically remove that thing from the game? That's not how that shit works, again some EA games that went to GoG also said how you'll need an Origin account to run them, yet I didn't see people bitch up a storm over that shit. So, why is THIS suddenly any different?

Also, customer reviews being neutral? Fucking bullshit on that alone, I've seen people write negative reviews on games because a dev said something on Twitter about a group they support/don't support, I saw people write negative reviews on a game because it got bought by another company and etc. Maybe in the past, we had customers be neutral. But now, it's a whole different thing.
Once again, I need to point out that leaving a negative review because a game is bundled with unwanted DRM software, is in no way the equivalent of leaving a negative review because of something somebody said on Twitter. A legit review, per your own definition, last time you checked, is a review about a function or feature of the game itself, and DRM is very much a part of that experience. What customers are doing on GOG right now is not review bombing. They are leaving legitimate reviews, according to you.


Furthermore, it sounds as though you want reviews to be neutral. Yes? At the very least, you seem to take issue with the idea of people review bombing and leaving non-neutral reviews.

Even if you believe that reviews are frequently non-neutral (and that may indeed be the case), it does not then follow that you should embrace an even more drastic degradation of review neutrality.

If a company like GOG or SquEnix is allowed to curate reviews, such that these companies can eliminate legitimate reviews solely on the grounds that the community response to a game has been overwhelmingly negative, then neutral, honest community reviews will be a thing of the past. If you are at all concerned with review neutrality and promoting the dissemination of fair, accurate, legitimate reviews, then there is really only one position you can take here: against GOG.
 
Once again, I need to point out that leaving a negative review because a game is bundled with unwanted DRM software, is in no way the equivalent of leaving a negative review because of something somebody said on Twitter.
well i had made a nifty edit but chrome went full retarded and nothing was saved so fuck it.
still the review bombing is a term used by journos to add more impact to the occurence, pretty much all journo sites are claiming that hitman GOTY edition is being "review bombed" for having a DRM.
meanwhile steam calls it "offtopic activity", lastest examples being factorio dev being based and killing floor 2 nigger getting the boot.
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meanwhile on the thread, the fucking sped which is a community janny left a note "don't review bomb"
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low rated. KEK.
 
Back the Gamergate days GoG went full retard with "If you don't like Diversity and Inclusion then you can feel free to not buy our stuff"
I'm with @The tired cat on this. They got into hot water for mocking games journalists. They bent the knee by deleting the tweet, but I don't remember them going woke.

I do remember back when they first started they pretended to close down in order to get clicks. What I remember about that is that in their apology video they were wearing robes for some reason. I think it was part of cult skit.
 
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personally after smearing shit all over themselves blatantly lying why they decided not to put devotion on the store "after many messages from gamers" I stopped buying on gog completely, and most of the time it doesn't even make a difference: the only ones who can afford DRM are AA+ games, which you hardly see on gog in the first place. the majority of indie games don't have it (maybe steamworks, but even then it depends to what extend it's implemented), so steam is nothing more than a glorified downloader the same way galaxy is.
Honestly, Devotion is a game that clearly only is popular because it got the Chinese government/patriots pissy and not because it's good or scary. Not that I agree with GoG's stupidity deciding to instantly pull it away. But again, that game's main draw was only because of its sudden notoriety, without that factor I'd say nobody would have even given a shit.
 
>social skills
>posting on forums full of sped fanboys

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well, I'd consider being able to handle those speds a skill of it's own (and at least you got paid for it).

besides, in the days of old before videogames became completely mainstream and the internet was a scary place where anonymous blew up vans you hardly had a lot of those speds to begin with.

Honestly, Devotion is a game that clearly only is popular because it got the Chinese government/patriots pissy and not because it's good or scary.
how would you know if you can't buy it?

Not that I agree with GoG's stupidity deciding to instantly pull it away. But again, that game's main draw was only because of its sudden notoriety, without that factor I'd say nobody would have even given a shit.
of course. and if they would've have said "at this time we decided against hosting it" it would still mean they value the chink cock more, but it's a understandable business decisions. I would still call them retarded for making the announcement in the first place since they obviously have no clue what they're doing.
however claiming it's because it was what "we" the "gamers" wanted (you know the ones who actually want less games to buy) is simply horseshit. if you sell out at least have the balls to wrap it in PR speak and own your decision, not claim it was public demand instead the potential loss of sales in china.
 
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I think review bombing is perfectly fair, it means the system is working, especially if the product has a glaring issue at launch. Review bombing seems to be the only way things change in the game industry.

Like, seriously, what's wrong with review bombing? In most of these cases it's because of a legitimate problem that is impeding the players' enjoyment of the game. An influx of bad reviews at launch does not mean there're vindictive 4chan conspirators organizing attacks against the damn game, it means people are organically frustrated with an aspect of it.

Review bombing is dumb in some instances, of course, but it's not morally wrong by any stretch of the imagination.
 
I doubt that. We've heard this before with the always online Sim City game. Supposedly the always online was so tightly woven into the game that it would be impossible to remove. Then clever people managed to get working offline, and eventually the always online requirement was dropped in a patch.

Other than elusive targets, I doubt things like storing a save file locally instead of on a server would require a ground up rebuild.
Sim City 5 always online was a dumb thing that EA made, the game had offline support in case your connection dropped, someone just found out how to keep that permanently. so much so that if you currently crack SC5 you'll get "unable to connect to the servers" while you are plopping your 7th megatower.
The only issue is that Denuvo was a protection system that got removed even on Steam, but that's is entirely different than what Hitman 2016 has going for it since its DRM thing is about unlocking stuff and the elusive targets appearing, along with fan-made contracts an, etc., so the question is how you make these features available while being offline for players? Also, I fucked up about it being Origin, I actually went to double-check and it was Battle-net that you needed if you wanted to play Diablo 1 along with Warcraft 1-2
Elusive targets are easy to be triggered, they are a literal scenario mode but the problem is the server check, just let the game trigger that file without doing a server check.
the elusive targets are in the game files and can be loaded, also diablo 1-2 and warcraft 1-2-3 had a bnet connection cd-key activation back in the day until people cracked it since the game ran on offline modus no problemo, you couldn't connect to old bnet since it would tell your cd-key was invalid but you can lan/ip play, i mean GameRanger exists...
since well like you said they need to re-write it and essentially rebuild it from the ground up.
not really quite, make it save on the gog folders just like steam does and do cloud sync.
going through the billions of line codes for that might be a hassle, but they are the ones that want to sell their shit on gog, not the other way around.
Anyone who is complinaing about how Hitman would need to be rebuilt from the ground up is a Grade A faggot. People have been able to hack the game so it plays fine offline since the very beginning. Hell, one of the first things people discovered in Hitman 2 behind the scenes was that all of the cut content like suits were already in the game and modding the save file activated them.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone managed to mod this GOG game in less than a week that fixed everything, but the problem was never 'fixing it' it was about making sure IOI was able to collect data about every playstyle for bizarre reasons. What exactly is IOI meant to do with data from Hitman 2016 in 2021? They're not going to patch Hitman 2016 to modify the playstyles, so the only other thing I can think of is soft DRM.

I think the modern Hitman games are great but I also fucking hate IOI for being massive faggots for first a) blaming Square for their stupid always online DRM b) blaming Warner Bros for their stupid always online DRM and c) having always online DRM even when they were an independant studio and capable of doing whatever they wanted.

The problem was never the big evil publishers, IOI have been using them to deflect criticism since 2016 now.
most of the "preorder bonuses" and even time-gated unreleased stuff is always avaliable to crackers because usually preorder editions have specific files which contain the extra assets and time gated shit means fuck all if the assets are in the game and can be pulled any time of the day, Far Cry 5 for instance had a Kriss Super V weapon which was time gated, pirates can buy it anytime they wish and even use the skins without problems not to mention the Arcade clothing which they can unlock by not even touching arcade mode.
even on MMO's that doesn't really matter since their packets can be reversed and the client can be fooled into thinking it's talking to the master server, else single player repacks of world of warcraft with bots wouldn't exist.
 
I'm with @The tired cat on this. They got into hot water for mocking games journalists. They bent the knee by deleting the tweet, but I don't remember them going woke.

I do remember back when they first started they pretended to close down in order to get clicks. What I remember about that is that in their apology video they were wearing robes for some reason. I think it was part of cult skit.
They threw one of their own posting under the wrong hashing which offended the troons. They have tried to be woke but it is never enough.

It seems like they are determined to piss everyone off.
 
Oh no, they have one game with DRM! That's totally gonna open the floodgates! Seriously, do you guys ever stop and think how retarded you sound?
Have you ever heard of the term “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile”?

Oh no, only the Xbox has paid online play while the PS2 is free! That’s totally gonna open the floodgates! Seriously, do you ever stop and think how retarded you sound? Sony will absolutely not start charging for playing games online by the time the fourth PlayStation rolls around, and neither will Nintendo soon after.
 
I think review bombing is perfectly fair, it means the system is working, especially if the product has a glaring issue at launch. Review bombing seems to be the only way things change in the game industry.

The only thing that should matter is if the reviews are actually coming from people who own the game. I think Steam requires reviewers to own the game, I don't know about GOG. And obviously Metacritic doesn't. If a mass of people are 'reviewing' a game they don't actually have as some kind of act of collective protest, then they're abusing the system no matter how valid their complaints are, and the publisher is justified in taking steps against them.
 
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