Gone missing without a single trace (missing 411)

Dilligaff said:
I try to watch Paulides's videos but he spends so much time bitching about critics and non-believers it turns me right off.

The stories are interesting, but I still think that especially in rocky regions it's easy to fall down in a crevice or crawl under a boulder and no one will ever find you. In some areas there's old mines peppered everywhere. If you've ever read posts from search and rescue folks they will tell you that it's not as easy to find people as the public might think. Like @mate said, the north American wilderness is fucking huge. It's still interesting to talk about though!
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Hes like, if you were to take your dad and put him on the internet. its funny to me, but I do have respect for the man.
 
Frog God said:
Hes like, if you were to take your dad and put him on the internet. its funny to me, but I do have respect for the man.
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You know, I respect his tenacity, I feel like he really does want to know what happened to all those people. If spreading awareness helps find any of the missing, I'm for it, weird theories and all.
 
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Australia's got a good one; Harold Holt. Probably drowned somewhere during his family swim and is now fish food or a coral reef, but he fits the criteria for 'missing without a trace'. People actually believed he absconded in a Chinese submarine, which doesn't really make sense, but it made for a good read at the time.
 
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There's a ton of missing person cases near and around Canadian shores and it's suspected that it's been orcas who have been going out and eating humans, but animal rights groups have been trying to keep it under wraps so people don't purge the whales.

Mind you Orcas eat moose and deer who get too close to deep water.
 
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Interesting topic. I enjoy the Canam411/Dave Paulides updates on YT.
 
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Australia's got a good one; Harold Holt. Probably drowned somewhere during his family swim and is now fish food or a coral reef, but he fits the criteria for 'missing without a trace'. People actually believed he absconded in a Chinese submarine, which doesn't really make sense, but it made for a good read at the time.
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Harold Holt who has a swim centre named after him.
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...and a memorial with the inscription 'He loved the sea'
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I looked a lot into this guy’s stuff a while ago and frankly it is disturbing as shit. The Dennis Martin case freaks the shit out of me the most.
 
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I've been binging this guys vids for the past few days. At first as background noise, then as entertainment since its unintentionaly hilarious dad asmr(just imagine anyone under 30 trying to make a vid like he does with the whole dog in vid, print out maps kinda thing) but now im genuenly intrested.
I honestly cant quite tell if hes just a really good grifter or actually onto something. Like yea the moment he brings up Ayys it gets somewhat rediculous but there really are some strange cases where explenations are really hard to come up with.
Sure many of the cases coverd by him are just people being dumb and getting eating by the earth but what got me baffled are the cases about kids that are found alive after a unreasonable amount of time in the bush.

That there are multiple cases where kids under two years of age just vanish and somehow reappear multiple airmiles away in places hard to reach even for well equipped adults or somehow survive up to a day after storms nearly unscathed is hard to rationalize.
I personally still hope that hes just really good at lying by omission or that feds are just suppremly good at both doing psyops while also pretending to be genuenly too retarded to do so.
 
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I should just stick to frogs shouldn't I?
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Missing 411 is a fascinating dive into a lore created by this one guy, which is quite a feat. I binged on Paulides' interviews for a while, until I realised that it's more or less a one trick pony. It's also very open-ended. He has no opinion on what it is one way or another and I think it's part of his business strategy - with luck he can keep milking this thing for ever. Great story-teller, good businessman, no issue there.

I also get a feeling that the paranormal circuit is a scene with a bunch of gay drama and in-fighting. A lot of people don't like Paulides and you can hear them criticise him in their podcasts, rightly or wrongly and they can be quite interesting too. The Lore Lodge analysis of his work being one example.

What is great about the whole thing is that he more or less created his own niche topic in the greater paranormal genre. Those disappearances he chooses to include are inexplicable, or at least they remain so until someone is found, which happens occasionally, like that older Australian lady.

He also weighed in on the Smiley Face Killers, which is pretty interesting, though there is a bunch more new material on that topic. Such as a recent interview with a young guy who survived one of these attacks.

BTW, his earlier work on Bigfoot is pretty cool. There, he is more explicit - it's closely related to humans with their own language and crude art, the Indians consider them a tribe of people, we have their DNA on record. No Woo from memory, which I personally like. Sasquatch Woo is almost always corny, new age-sounding bullshit.

There used to be a good lecture of his on the subject, filmed at a MUFON conference. Must have been just before he switched to 411. I can't find it right now.
 
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