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Google to delete inactive accounts starting December​

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May 16 (Reuters) - Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google on Tuesday said it would delete accounts that had remained unused for two years starting December, in a bid to prevent security threats including hacks.

The company said that if a Google account had not been used or signed into for at least two years, it might delete the account and content across Google Workspace, which includes Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet and Calendar, as well as YouTube and Google Photos.

The policy change only applies to personal Google Accounts and not to those for organizations like schools or businesses.

In 2020, Google had said it would remove content stored in an inactive account, but not delete the account itself.

Starting Tuesday, Google will send multiple notifications to the account email address and recovery mail of the inactive accounts before deletion.

Last week, Elon Musk said Twitter would remove accounts that have been inactive for several years and archive them, saying that the action is "important to free up abandoned handles."


[OP note: Here's the actual Google blogpost]
https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/ [Archive]

Updating our inactive account policies​


People want the products and services they use online to be safe and secure. Which is why we have invested in technology and tools to protect our users from security threats, like spam, phishing scams and account hijacking.

Even with these protections, if an account hasn’t been used for an extended period of time, it is more likely to be compromised. This is because forgotten or unattended accounts often rely on old or re-used passwords that may have been compromised, haven't had two factor authentication set up, and receive fewer security checks by the user. Our internal analysis shows abandoned accounts are at least 10x less likely than active accounts to have 2-step-verification set up. Meaning, these accounts are often vulnerable, and once an account is compromised, it can be used for anything from identity theft to a vector for unwanted or even malicious content, like spam.

To reduce this risk, we are updating our inactivity policy for Google Accounts to 2 years across our products. Starting later this year, if a Google Account has not been used or signed into for at least 2 years, we may delete the account and its contents – including content within Google Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet, Calendar), YouTube and Google Photos.

The policy only applies to personal Google Accounts, and will not affect accounts for organizations like schools or businesses. This update aligns our policy with industry standards around retention and account deletion and also limits the amount of time Google retains your unused personal information.

We are going to roll this out slowly and carefully, with plenty of notice:

  • While the policy takes effect today, it will not immediately impact users with an inactive account — the earliest we will begin deleting accounts is December 2023.
  • We will take a phased approach, starting with accounts that were created and never used again.
  • Before deleting an account, we will send multiple notifications over the months leading up to deletion, to both the account email address and the recovery email (if one has been provided).

How to keep your account active

The simplest way to keep a Google Account active is to sign-in at least once every 2 years. If you have signed into your Google Account or any of our services recently, your account is considered active and will not be deleted. Activity might include these types of actions you take when you sign in or while you’re signed in to your Google Account:

  • Reading or sending an email
  • Using Google Drive
  • Watching a YouTube video
  • Downloading an app on the Google Play Store
  • Using Google Search
  • Using Sign in with Google to sign in to a third-party app or service
If you have an existing subscription set up through your Google Account, for example to Google One, a news publication or an app, we also consider this account activity and your account will not be impacted.

As previously announced, you will need to specifically sign in to Google Photos every 2 years to be considered active which will ensure your photos and other content are not deleted. Similarly, we will send multiple notifications before we take any action.


Creating a backup plan for your account and its content

We encourage users to provide a recovery email at sign-up. It's important to make sure this recovery email in your account settings is up-to-date.

We also offer a variety of free tools to help manage your account and provide options to backup your data.

You can download and export your data to other platforms through our Takeout feature, which has been available for over a decade. Similarly, Inactive Account Manager allows users to decide what happens to their account and data when it becomes inactive for a period of up to 18 months. Options users can select at enrollment include:

  • Sending specific files to trusted contacts of their choosing,
  • Applying a Gmail autoresponder, and
  • Deleting their account entirely
Today’s update helps us continue our advancements in account security, and helps reinforce our commitment to keep your private information private. For more information on this policy, please see our Help Center.


UPDATE:

Google is backing down on deleting old accounts that have uploaded Youtube videos... at least for now. They might still do it in the future when there's less backlash.
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The maker went full DFE after Trump won thanks to TDS driving him insane. No, he didn't have people cheering on Trump in comments or anything. He just didn't want anyone to have nice things while Trump was in office.
The Special Edition was taken over by someone else and I believe it can still be downloaded.

It's a bug ridden, massively overengineered piece of shit though. Even by Skyrim standards.
 
The maker went full DFE after Trump won thanks to TDS driving him insane. No, he didn't have people cheering on Trump in comments or anything. He just didn't want anyone to have nice things while Trump was in office.
His actions are the reason Nexus eventually made it harder to delete mods. By the time this was done, no one cared about those mods. They had better options.
 
The Special Edition was taken over by someone else and I believe it can still be downloaded.

It's a bug ridden, massively overengineered piece of shit though. Even by Skyrim standards.
Yeah, its impressive really. Although not perhaps in the way it was intended to be.
 
Almost literally playing devil's advocate but dead accounts actually are a security concern. More than once I've explored some niche content from an old forgotten channel and found that the newest uploads--after a decade-long hiatus--are from some Pajeet who hacked the account and is advertising his bitcoin scam or phishing links.

However, flushing all content from inactive accounts rather than just locking them would be like burning down your house to make sure you never get termites.
 
Youtube's not going anywhere. No need to go full doomer on this. Deleting old inactive accounts + their videos isn't even an effective way to cut costs. They already have a system in place to reduce file size on disk for unpopular videos: delete high resolution copies until there's nothing but the 144p left. I'll start worrying about youtube's financials when they block 1080p and 4k video behind a paywall. If storage space were a concern, they'd charge users to upload beyond 15 gb or some arbitrary limit.
 
The company said that if a Google account had not been used or signed into for at least two years, it might delete the account and content across Google Workspace, which includes Gmail, Docs, Drive, Meet and Calendar, as well as YouTube and Google Photos.
Even Google's money is not infinite. Still, they must be really in a pinch if they've decided to use a 2-year threshold.

Google is backing down on deleting old accounts that have uploaded Youtube videos... at least for now. They might still do it in the future when there's less backlash.
Any alternatives to Youtube that have firmly stated they are never going to delete uploaders' accounts?

An the obligatory:
FUCK GOOGLE
 
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If that's the idea that Google is going for, would the same apply to Twitter and Imgur? Too many twitterers are gaining reach and need to be stopped?

Or, worst, doomsday scenario, are we witnessing the start of the tech-collapse? The bubble burst big in 2000/2001, are we seeing the first steps of tech-bubble-burst 2.0? Laying off employees and cutting down on server/storage costs as a desperate attempt to plug the holes in the damn?
All the signs are pointing to the latter. The zero-interest loans and free money are running out, all these massive services that have never made a penny of profit in a decade will face their reckoning.
 
Almost literally playing devil's advocate but dead accounts actually are a security concern.
I'll agree on this point because I seem to recall that one of the security issues Null dealt with last summer/fall was the result of one or more inactive accounts being hijacked.

With Google more or less claiming "We're not going to delete everything en mass, trust us!" time will tell if they're being honest. Still, one wonders if this is a back door way for them to justify removing older content that's no longer socially acceptable in $CURRENT_YEAR.
 
All the signs are pointing to the latter. The zero-interest loans and free money are running out, all these massive services that have never made a penny of profit in a decade will face their reckoning.
Could this be a reason that we are seeing torrent sites shut down? Storage is becoming too expensive, they have too may files/torrents to store and their parent company/funder is pulling the plug?
 
Could this be a reason that we are seeing torrent sites shut down? Storage is becoming too expensive, they have too may files/torrents to store and their parent company/funder is pulling the plug?
No, because torrent files are only kilobytes in size. The reason torrent sites are closing down is because governments across the world are resorting to draconian punishments for copyright infringement.
 
All the signs are pointing to the latter. The zero-interest loans and free money are running out, all these massive services that have never made a penny of profit in a decade will face their reckoning.
This. Especially for something like Youtube. Google considered it to be worth the cost of operating in return for retaining market dominance in the space, on the hope that they'd eventually find a way to effectively monetize it. Works fine in a world where your profit generators are growing faster than the losses from this service - Investors won't care too much as long as the general trend is up. But now those profit generators are either hitting the ceiling or receding entirely, while the losses from the service increase significantly. Remember Adpocalypse? Hits both sides of the equation, and there's another one going on right now. Rates are in the gutter, and youtubes gonna be feeling that, at a time when content consumption and costs are at all time highs.

The tech reckoning is going to be juicy, but its not going to be a mass collapse. We will see walls, monetization, exodus, and the scrabble for successors. Going to be a lot of money to be made for folks who are paying attention.
 
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