Culture Government has sent a clear message to the far right: arson and violence work. Is treise an dúchas ná an oiliúint. - "It may be that the decision to stop locating accommodation centres in parts of the country takes the heat out of anti-migrant protests. But given the victory they have just been handed, I wouldn’t bet on it" - shitlib snark seethe lol

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We should recall, too, the murder threats against security personnel at asylum accommodation centres, the arson attacks on tents belonging to homeless refugees on Dublin’s Sandwith Street (above) and the November 2023 riots. Photograph: Niall Carson/PA Wire
According to internal documents, as reported by Conor Gallagher in The Irish Times last week, the Government has decided – in response to what the documents term “local and political feedback” – to stop opening asylum centres in certain parts of the country. One of the major forms of such feedback, the documents specify, is “violent protest and criminality”.

A brief reminder of what that violent protest consisted of might be useful here.

In November 2018, a hotel in Moville, Co Donegal that was being prepared to accommodate 100 asylum seekers was deliberately set alight. In Rooskey, on the Leitrim-Roscommon border the following February, a hotel that had been earmarked as a direct provision centre was set on fire, in what gardaí described as a premeditated attack involving careful planning and co-ordination. In January 2023, a derelict former school building on Sherrard Street in Dublin was broken into and set alight after rumours circulated that it would be used to accommodate asylum seekers.

In the two years that followed, arson attacks were carried out on numerous similar properties, and for similar reasons – in Ballybrack, in Rosslare, in Tallaght. All over the country these acts of arson occurred; wherever accommodation was being prepared for asylum seekers, anti-immigration activists appeared, hateful propaganda about “unvetted males” as a danger to Irish women and children was spread, and buildings were set on fire.

And it wasn’t just buildings either, we should recall. We should recall, too, the murder threats against security personnel at asylum accommodation centres, the arson attacks on tents belonging to homeless refugees on Dublin’s Sandwith Street and, for that matter, the riots that convulsed the capital in November 2023, and which were incited by far-right social media activists spreading anti-immigrant hysteria.

When the Government document mentions “violent protest and criminality” in relation to its decision to no longer open asylum centres in certain locations, this is what is being referred to. The International Protection Accommodation Service (IPAS), the state body responsible for such projects, is, according to the document, unique within the Civil Service in that “the work of the division is subject to significant instances of protest, instances of arson and other violence or criminality, and targeting by anti-immigration or far-right activists”.

There are a number of implications to this decision and to the wording around it – some blatantly obvious, some less so. The first of these, surely, is that the anti-immigrant right, which has thus far failed to become a serious electoral force in this country, has been handed a pretty clear tactical victory.

In saying that it will no longer open asylum accommodation facilities in places where violent resistance to those facilities has occurred, the Government is acknowledging that this tactic of violent opposition – of intimidation, of arson, of spittle-flecked fury and dehumanisation – is a potent one, one that gets results.

Terrorism is a famously vexed and slippery term, but one fairly uncontroversial definition of it would be “the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims”. And when I say uncontroversial, I mean that this is literally the precise definition you will find in the Oxford English Dictionary. Those tent burnings, those acts of arson against buildings housing asylum seekers, those murder threats against security guards employed to protect them: these were, precisely, unlawful uses of violence and intimidation against civilians in the pursuit of political aims.

It was terrorism at a fairly low level, certainly, and hardly threatened the fabric of society or the rule of law, but it was nonetheless very effective in achieving a political aim.

Anti-immigrant campaigners were pleased with the outcome – understandably so, as people always are pleased when their plans come to fruition. If you require evidence of this, you’ll find it on Twitter/X, which is well on the way to becoming a propaganda organ of the international far right.

Responses to one post about the news, by a failed independent general election candidate, included such sentiments as: “Resistance works”; “About time they listened to the locals!”; “This should tell every Irish person that they can get results if they start taking action”; “Very important to keep fighting back”; and “So now we know what works.”

This last was the bluntest of all, and the most obviously correct. We – meaning all of us, not just the anti-immigrant right – know now exactly what works. What works is violence. What works is arson and threats and dehumanisation.

One desire here, on the part of the political establishment, is presumably that this capitulation to the opportunistic thuggery of the anti-immigrant right will also function to remove much of the political charge from that movement. No longer accommodating asylum seekers in areas where the locals don’t want them means removing the arena in which the far-right stages its overwrought psychodrama of threatened innocence, with its pantomime villains and damsels in distress, its peaceable burghers pushed too far by globalists bent on destroying their communities and their culture by infecting them with foreign elements.

It may be, I suppose, that this political calculation eventually works out. It may be that it serves to diminish the force of the extreme right as an organised electoral threat.

But given the victory that has just been handed to their movement, I wouldn’t want to bet on it. I wouldn’t want to bet on these people forgoing further violence, and further capitulations by the State. Because despite their rhetoric about wanting to protect local communities from the threat represented by immigrants – immigrants who are, in many cases, fleeing horrendous violence and oppression in their own countries, and in other cases simply seeking a better life for themselves and their families – these activists in fact thrive on causing the very violence and chaos they claim to be trying to prevent.

The far right is still, thankfully, a fairly pathetic formation in this country, peopled mostly by obsessive misfits and cheap grifters. It would be comforting to believe that having won this battle, it would stop prosecuting its war against immigrants. But these people want power, and power, for the extreme right, is drawn from the generating of hatred and fear. They will likely find other sources from which to generate that energy.
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The far right is still, thankfully, a fairly pathetic formation in this country, peopled mostly by obsessive misfits and cheap grifters
See this confuses me. Who is this statement aimed at? All this is nothing to do with this nebulous ‘far right’ and the Troubles wasn’t a right left thing either. They have to know that surely? They can’t possibly be so stupid as to see the Troubles as right v left? Or this as right/left.
And they can’t see this either through that lens. But they want the public to? Or are they actually dim enough these days to see it like that? I hope the latter.
The Irish are not the English. within a generation they were hosting paramilitaries working against occupation - that knowledge is still there and the government are exceptionally stupid to think that something like that couldn’t flare up again. I don’t think any of us who lived through that period want to see the Troubles type violence start up again - it makes me despair to see our ruling classes re ignite such violence after decades of peace.
At the same time….
What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? ." Thomas Jefferson, 1787.
We live in interesting times
 
Well done, but the struggle isn't won until every last one of these subhuman invaders and their enablers are sent back where they came from. Even the potato people of Ireland deserve to have a homeland where they can do their riverdance and shit. I'm glad those patriots found their will and have taken what these hypocritical leftists call 'direct action'.
except for the jews, inshallah we shall fire them out of a cannon into the sun
 
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Muslims have proved that violence works.
The worst sin the Rules Based Liberal Order ever committed was convincing people that this was ever untrue.

The far right is still, thankfully, a fairly pathetic formation in this country, peopled mostly by obsessive misfits and cheap grifters.

Alright, I'm going to use that dirty communist Umberto Eco's definition of "Fascism" against the dirty communists here:
Property 8: Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak".
Kindly clobber yourself with a bike lock for being a fascist, journoscum author.
 
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only evil Irish people would march alongside unionists.
The first principles of unionists is keeping the island of Ireland, homeland of the Gaelic race, forever divided and disunited to maintain the hold the British Crown has on the island. Coolock is not a rich area, it's quite poor with disenfranchised people only now becoming politically active and aware. Having them make asses of themselves by marching with people with interests directly against their own Irish Nationalism is almost expected. They've been fighting in the courts over this asylum centre for months now with success that other communities have replicated. Westmeath towns forced off a Mullingar centre by weaponising retarded environmental laws against development for plantation compounds like this.

The needed leap of logic for people is to join the dots from illegal/asylum seekers to legal migrants being just as bad for the country. Leftists used to be cogent on this on labour grounds by equating foreign peoples as scab labour and competition.
 
Like what "falsehoods" are you talking about?
Genesis is all BS. Creation myth is BS. Table of Nations is BS and aged horribly with the Autosomal DNA revolution in Archeogenetics. Every modern population is translucent now in terms of ancient ancestry now anyways.

I'm not sure the Church of England even believes in God, tbh
Good. The Abrahamic cult has shown the world their true colors. They're pushing radical ideologies and politics that would mean my people's destruction and disenfranchisement. Once we lose critical mass, then it's over.

God does exist, but God is just logic. Reality is shaped by what is logically impossible and how it must be kept logically impossible in perpetuity. Nothingness can't exist; only something/objects can exist.

Homo Sapiens, especially West Eurasians which are a Taxa below species are the most special given our legacy of innovation. We might be able to cause things like superintelligence to emerge and even great streams-of-experience than consciousness.

Compared to England? I'd find that the people are more outgoing and easier to get talking to, more open about what they think of you good or bad, locally grown food fresh from the market, a distinct lack of LGBTQBBQ+ flags everywhere, the ability to criticise Islam without being arrested
That's because radical political wishes are trying to be fulfilled in England. Demographic change is inherently radical. Start getting rid of people who don't even genetically belong in NW europe. They are only mimicking the culture.

Once the average genetic traits change, so does the core of the culture and eventually the entire culture as time goes on. NW european core cultural traits are all very similar even abroad as a diaspora. It just emerges out of our people naturally.

Punjabis are 1/5th Scandinavian-like. Is any of their culture Scandinavian-like? Absolutely not.

NW europe is not just NW europeans ancestral homeland. It's our genetic homeland. All of those gene flow events from the pre-neolithic, to neolithic to the bronze age were not flukes.
 
Genesis is all BS. Creation myth is BS.
Okay. So to my point then, that says nothing about what I actually wrote which is that someone who shares Christian values is someone I have more in common with than someone who has very Progressive values that I see as anti-family, anti-societal. The accuracy or inaccuracy of Noah leading two of every animal onto a giant ship is entirely incidental to that.

Also, if that's your reasoning on dismissing Christianity (as included under the umbrella of Abrahamic faiths), then it seems a little reversed when put against your idea that certain religions belong to certain genetic groups. Because these faiths emerged only very recently and those genetic groups predate them by a hundred thousand years.

Nothingness can't exist; only something/objects can exist.
I'm starting to get Tom Stoppard vibes now:

"You can't not-be on a boat."
"I've frequently not been on a boat."
"No, no, no - what you've been is not on boats"


I think you're getting caught up in linguistic traps of confusing the words for the things, the map for the territory. To "exist" is to have presence. "Nothing" is where no thing has presence. But "exist" is also applied to concepts and definitions. We can say a definition "exists" but that is qualitatively different to saying a chair "exists", yet we are constrained to use a single word for two meanings. This has led you to blend two different meanings together. To say "nothing can't exist" is permissible in English but to mean "nothingness must be present," that is to say "there is no thing present must be present" is clearly nonsensical. Nor is there a clear chain that I can see from this to White people shouldn't be Christian.

Happy to bud this off and discuss in Deep Thoughts if you wish.

That's because radical political wishes are trying to be fulfilled in England. Demographic change is inherently radical. Start getting rid of people who don't even genetically belong in NW europe. They are only mimicking the culture.
Again this belief that religous beliefs, culture and values are defined genetically and that if in your opinion someone's genetics don't match up with what you consider their values should be, they're faking or mimicking it.

That's a very American attitude. A people who through Progressive and Identity Politics are brought up to not be able to distinguish between culture and race. Hence they produce works of insanity like the book 'How the Irish Became White' or you get Joe Biden telling a Black interviewer that if he doesn't vote for him, "he ain't Black". I note the times of your replies - are you North American by any chance? Or worse, Canadian?

Again, I point out to you that the culture we are talking about, current religions, post-date the racial groups you're trying to bind them to by a hundred thousand years.

Once the average genetic traits change, so does the core of the culture and eventually the entire culture as time goes on. NW european core cultural traits are all very similar even abroad as a diaspora. It just emerges out of our people naturally.
Yet today I find more similarities between modern Christians from Nigeria to pre '60's people in Europe than I do between modern people in Europe to pre-60's people in Europe. How can that be if culture is a mere manifestation of our DNA?

Punjabis are 1/5th Scandinavian-like. Is any of their culture Scandinavian-like? Absolutely not.
I have no idea but you appear to be arguing against your own position here.

Move this to Deep Thoughts if you'd like to discuss this further.
 
Like the term "TERF", "far-right" is quickly becoming a meaningless term as left wingers label anyone ranging from their own grannies to some average guy who dares to slightly disagree with their political views. I've seen some of the protests against the "far roish", if you can call them that in Dublin City Centre and the attendance is microscopic. It's usually a very small number of unwashed shitlibs making fools of themselves in public.

Both sides of the Troubles should bury the hatchet even further and go after these people.
I don't think some of the userbase on this forum or anyone from outside of Ireland understands that Northern Ireland is not some sort of white utopia. It's a perfect example of the failures of multiculturalism. Nationalists and Unionists have never had a very warm relationship to begin with but the Troubles has frayed the community relations between the two groups to the point where reconciliation isn't in the interests of either side. Of course there are exceptions but a good portion of Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants still don't trust each other and cannot agree on anything even after almost 30 years of the Good Friday Agreement taking place. Their politics, values, and cultures are extremely different, and no amount of strenuous attempts to improve cross community relationships by political parties will ever bring them together. Look no further for better examples than the parliament building of NI, Stormont, which is never functional for this reason or the county and city of Derry which is officially named Derry-Londonderry because neither side can make a compromise on deciding what the official name of the place is. Centuries of suspicion between Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants stemming from the Plantations of Ulster and decades of violence and trauma aren't magically going to go away because of the threat that mass migration poses.

Because of all this animosity and strife, unionists and nationalists tend to avoid each other on a day to day basis. They live parallel lives in settlements segregated based on ethnonationalist lines away from one another. It's a shame because there are so many kind and interesting people from both sides of the community, but many are still very uncomfortable with each other today.
 
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Well yeah, it's never not been the fucking case. Whites have always been able to do the same horrible shit, with the more or less even condition that they're probably getting stuck with a felony criminal record. Well, what does that mean anymore? You can't travel to another country that's also swarming with muds, so horrifying that it makes yellow tourists fall into clinical depression? You can't get a cushy job that's going to a non-White anyway due to anti-White hiring quotas, and even if you could you still won't be able to afford a house or support your family?
So we're subjected to all this deathly dark blackpill, plus any possible political solution on the horizon that might even work as a safety valve gets discredited, infiltrated by feds, or outright banned from politics by the establishment. What else is there to do?
 
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Actual protests and violence works, in the Netherlands several protests by local residents succeeded in preventing the AZC from getting build. Some seething local official demanded that the government denounce these protests and that they should tell a clear message about how protests are 'le bad'. The current government is 'right wing', so he was 'ignored'.

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Responses to one post about the news, by a failed independent general election candidate, included such sentiments as: “Resistance works”
That's a great slogan, and was worth reading this article for. Resistance works. Print it on your flag and cry it from the rooftops.

Good. The Abrahamic cult has shown the world their true colors. They're pushing radical ideologies and politics that would mean my people's destruction and disenfranchisement. Once we lose critical mass, then it's over.

God does exist, but God is just logic. Reality is shaped by what is logically impossible and how it must be kept logically impossible in perpetuity. Nothingness can't exist; only something/objects can exist.

Homo Sapiens, especially West Eurasians which are a Taxa below species are the most special given our legacy of innovation. We might be able to cause things like superintelligence to emerge and even great streams-of-experience than consciousness.
This, though, is just a new brand of euphoric fedora atheism, indistinguishable from early 2010s fedora atheism except for the thin coating of haplogroup talk. It is obnoxious, corrosive blather undermining the genuine and heartfelt identity of those living in the region (Catholicism or Protestantism, ethnicity, local culture and belonging), and offering some kind of ersatz substitute. The people who are setting those migrant silos on fire would likely be horrified about the way you talk about their Catholic faith and heritage. They are genuine blood and soil nationalists who will now shake hands with other blood and soil nationalists in face of a terrible new enemy. You, on the other hand, are trying to take away the things that define them and make them distinct and unique in favor of an identity they do not know and do not want.

Fuck you and your subversive bullshit.
 
A fitting fate for you would be to be surrounded by 90% Nigger Catholics. Enjoy the hell that they would create, and you would deserve to be exiled for turning your back on your ancestry.
My Irish ancestors were honorable warriors for the Catholic Faith. They came to the island in the 12th century to bring the Gaels back into the fold, served the English faithfully until the split with Rome, and since then resisted the power of London because they were Catholics above all else. Such honorable men would not let retarded bigotry get in the way of serving God and His Church.
 
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If the choice is between the Irish marching with the British against Bongocoons or letting their lovely country die and become a third world shit hole, they'll march with the Brits.

Yeah, 'The Troubles' weren't nice (to say the least!) but what the WEF want is way worse.
 
Again, I point out to you that the culture we are talking about, current religions, post-date the racial groups you're trying to bind them to by a hundred thousand years.
Abrahamic cult did not even exist in the Bronze age. West Eurasians and East Eurasians first became a thing around 51k years ago. Modern West Eurasians like Europeans and West Asians are from mostly ancient west eurasians mixing with each other. We can actually track those gene flow events and it makes genesis's table of nations clearly BS.

Abrahamic faith was created by west eurasians, Israelites in this case who are an admixture of ancient west eurasians.

o say "nothing can't exist" is permissible in English but to mean "nothingness must be present," that is to say "there is no thing present must be present" is clearly nonsensical. Nor is there a clear chain that I can see from this to White people shouldn't be Christian.
I'm saying that logic is the creator. I believe that the universe is shaped by what is logically impossible, and that the things that emerge out of the universe ensures that the impossible stays impossible. We can't experience nothingness (it's impossible), that's why we instantly jump to waking if we've been in a coma... Or dreaming/waking if we fall into a deep-sleep. The interim while we're unconcious always gets skipped until we're concious again from our point of view. So when we die, I predict that somehow the universe iterates itself a mind-boogling amount of times, and after an uncountable amount of time elapses. You get born again out your mother's womb and struggle to take your first breath once more. Parents, grand-parents, etc are all the same. Cousins and siblings are different if you have any at all. Either that, or you might be get brought back through technological intervention if civilization is adanced enough to pull off such a feat. You'll still eventually die alongside the civilization eventually collapsing.

Either way, eternal life is impossible, and so is eternal death. One reason is because that there's so many uncouncious beings who missed their chance to be born. The interim they are in has to eventually end with them being concious again.

Consciousness is a very interesting property, it has profound logical implications.


Again this belief that religous beliefs, culture and values are defined genetically and that if in your opinion someone's genetics don't match up with what you consider their values should be, they're faking or mimicking it.
The creation of culture and values has an obvious genetic component to it. Adapting a culture over time has a genetic component to it. Mimicking culture is a different story. There's a difference between inventing the wheel and copying the wheel. It's the same for culture.

Otherwise, why is the core cultural traits of NW european culture so extremely similar?

If Non-English people who don't even have any genetic overlap with the English genetic cluster, starting adapting/changing the English culture when it needs to be updated... Then it's no longer English culture or even English-like. That's just the truth. The English have given the world so much, and the world has disrespected them and is trying to destroy them.

Different things emerge out of different groups of people. We aren't blank slates.

They are genuine blood and soil nationalists who will now shake hands with other blood and soil nationalists in face of a terrible new enemy.
You can't be a blood and soil nationalist and a Christian. Those politics and that religion are incompatible long-term. The terrible new enemy is already winning, and the ethnonationalists need a paradigm shift. Only problem with ethnonationlism is that some ethnic boundaries can be broken when the ethnic groups have a ton of genetic overlap with their genetic clusters. And there's the problem of someone who is say... 3/4 Danish and 1/4 Ashkenazim Jew or 1/2 English and 1/2 eastern pole both being part of the ethnic german genetic cluster without having a speck of German blood. It means that those populations are very german-like genetically.

You can mix Basques with Baltic people to create populations that are very NW european-like. So I prefer genetic-cluster nationalism and having some ethnic boundaries being broken.

Fuck you and your subversive bullshit.
I'll gladly subvert the status quos that are an obvious dead-end to the existence of the pan-ethnic group/ genetic clusters I'm a part of.

Atheism is not going anywhere, great English thinkers and scientists fleshed out atheism. It will constantly evolve and the ideological models it produces will totally eclipse religion and replace it.
 
Atheism is not going anywhere...
Staying locked in a basement is what it does best.

...great English thinkers and scientists fleshed out atheism. It will constantly evolve and the ideological models it produces will totally eclipse religion and replace it.
Communism already failed multiple times.
 
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