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Got a 22 inch Dell monitor from a thrift store today to use as my third monitor. 60hz, 16:9, and oddly, 1050p, despite using display port. Its kinda dim because of that. That said, I can finally take that 5:4 VGA monitor I have and move it over as a pure utility monitor instead of watching Youtube on it. So im happy. In total I have 63 inches of monitor space now with one 17 inch, one 23 inch, and the new 22 inch.
 
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Betonhaus said:
pretty sure the math doesn't work that way. you definitely do not have the same square inches of a single 63" display
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I mean its still a lot of screen for me to work with. I was just adding them up as a frame of reference.
 
I can't deal with multiple monitors. There is something with my OCD that gives me anxiety working on one monitor and worrying constantly about what I'm missing that might be going on on a second monitor. - so I stick to 1 ultrawide monitor (21:9 because 32:9 would be too much), I can multitask, but I can keep everything within one birds eye view.
 
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barrow greeter said:
I can't deal with multiple monitors. There is something with my OCD that gives me anxiety working on one monitor and worrying constantly about what I'm missing that might be going on on a second monitor. - so I stick to 1 ultrawide monitor (21:9 because 32:9 would be too much), I can multitask, but I can keep everything within one birds eye view.
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I mean to each his own, I'm glad you found a solution. I've just found with me that it helps with projects.

And it's cheap enough to set up- thrift stores always have old monitors for $10 or less. This 22 inch one I just got was 7, plus 2 bucks for a power cable I found there, so $9 in total. So far I've found it makes a good youtube screen. And now my old VGA 5:4 monitor can be used for utility tasks and not youtube and such.

But again, that's just my autism, and the fact money is tight for me. If a ultrawide setup works better for you and you can afford it, I literally cannot judge, I don't even have one to form a opinion on. If it works for you, it works.
 
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barrow greeter said:
I can't deal with multiple monitors. There is something with my OCD that gives me anxiety working on one monitor and worrying constantly about what I'm missing that might be going on on a second monitor. - so I stick to 1 ultrawide monitor (21:9 because 32:9 would be too much), I can multitask, but I can keep everything within one birds eye view.
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Im Team 48” 4k OLED TV monitor.
 
Overly Serious said:
How far away from it do you sit? Low-Earth Orbit or High?
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60cm. I run it at 100% scaling, so in practice it's kind of like having two ultrawides on top of each other, or four normal monitors in a grid (my previous setup). This is better in every way, OLED is superb for films and games, and one huge monitor rather than four small ones means not only do things actually work, I also don't get hideous borders.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
And it's cheap enough to set up- thrift stores always have old monitors for $10 or less. This 22 inch one I just got was 7, plus 2 bucks for a power cable I found there, so $9 in total. So far I've found it makes a good youtube screen. And now my old VGA 5:4 monitor can be used for utility tasks and not youtube and such.
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Do you use any CRT monitors?
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Got a 22 inch Dell monitor from a thrift store today to use as my third monitor. 60hz, 16:9, and oddly, 1050p, despite using display port. Its kinda dim because of that. That said, I can finally take that 5:4 VGA monitor I have and move it over as a pure utility monitor instead of watching Youtube on it. So im happy. In total I have 63 inches of monitor space now with one 17 inch, one 23 inch, and the new 22 inch.
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27 inch, 2560x1440p is a sweetspot. Curved is a great bonus for me.
seri0us said:
Do you use any CRT monitors?
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I'd love to buy a CRT monitor for shits and giggles but sadly they don't make them anymore.
 
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Intel claims that top Lunar Lake beats top Strix Point graphics (Radeon 890M) by 16%, and Meteor Lake by 31%.


If their claims are accurate, not only is it a better choice than Strix Point for most games, AMD's future lower-cost Kraken die (4+4 cores, 8 CUs RDNA3.5) will do little against it... although Kraken is rumored to support faster LPDDR5X than Strix Point, which is one of the main bottlenecks.

All Lunar Lake SKUs have 4 P-cores and 4 LP E-cores, 8 threads. Some of them have less L3 cache. You get 16 or 32 GB of LPDDR5X, always at 8533 MT/s which is the fastest on the market.

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The Lion Cove P-cores are probably on par with Zen 5, if not faster. So they are likely to be more than enough for gaming when you consider that the Steam Deck does OK with 4-core Zen 2.
 
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WULULULULU said:
I'd love to buy a CRT monitor for shits and giggles but sadly they don't make them anymore.
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They are still being made, just in very small numbers and for very specific purposes. Think CCTV monitors and replacement modules for various industrial equipment.
 
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Intel claims that top Lunar Lake beats top Strix Point graphics (Radeon 890M) by 16%, and Meteor Lake by 31%.


If their claims are accurate, not only is it a better choice than Strix Point for most games, AMD's future lower-cost Kraken die (4+4 cores, 8 CUs RDNA3.5) will do little against it... although Kraken is rumored to support faster LPDDR5X than Strix Point, which is one of the main bottlenecks.

All Lunar Lake SKUs have 4 P-cores and 4 LP E-cores, 8 threads. Some of them have less L3 cache. You get 16 or 32 GB of LPDDR5X, always at 8533 MT/s which is the fastest on the market.

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The Lion Cove P-cores are probably on par with Zen 5, if not faster. So they are likely to be more than enough for gaming when you consider that the Steam Deck does OK with 4-core Zen 2.
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Interesting move to go exclusively with 4+4 cores for a laptop chip. Will that really be enough? Also, peak power is really low, under 40W.
 
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Interesting move to go exclusively with 4+4 cores for a laptop chip. Will that really be enough? Also, peak power is really low, under 40W.
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I think most people... and games... have modest multi-thread needs. I'm using old Intel quad-cores and they are just fine. These new P-cores are very fast.

Skymont E-cores have massive IPC boosts over Gracemont, claimed 38% (integer) to 68% (FP), which brings them right up to Raptor Cove level but at lower clocks. I assume that they are active more often in Lunar Lake than the weird separate die LP E-cores were in Meteor Lake (high latency). But I don't think they can access L3 cache. Lunar Lake could end up being a decent 8c/8t, but if it acts more like a quad-core, that's probably fine.

There are a lot of power optimizations in the design, including the on-package memory you love so much, and it looks like their marketing is claiming "Overall 2.29 times more power efficient [CPU] than Meteor Lake".

That is interesting that they have a (configurable) processor base power of 30W for the top chip, and maximum turbo power of 37W. We'll have to see what reviewers come up with.

Other things to note. It supports 4x PCIe 5.0 for SSDs (wowee). It also has H.266 (VVC) hardware decode. The iGPU still has better INT8 AI performance than the NPU (67 vs. 48 TOPS).
 
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