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Another game making 8gb cards untenable.

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Betonhaus said:
if he was smart he would ensure local production of chips was in place first.

Tariffs are used to encourage local industry, but that's meaningless if there is no local industry.
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It’s going to cost five or six times more to buy components produced in the west, and with economies of scale you can’t just start small and cater to a luxury market or anything like that, you either produce big and sell at a massive loss or don’t produce at all. Everyone chooses the latter. Setting up tariffs even though there’s no existing domestic industry is likely intended to make it more feasible to start up that domestic industry. Yeah your components will be fiendishly expensive, but because of the tariffs the cheap foreign ones wouldn’t be much cheaper to the end consumer.

In practice I expect it’ll just kill all your domestic electronics industry except that fraction the military budget keeps on life support. And good riddance to it, Made in USA is a byword for shoddy craftsmanship.
 
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Pattern Juggler said:
Another game making 8gb cards untenable.

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What I'm supposed to be getting out of this is that 8 GB cards are not good for 1440p? What a shock! It was actually lower than I expected (started listening to discussion of this on HUB).


This is all rumor shit, but there seems to be a consensus forming that the 5070 Ti will be the card to get on account of having 16 GB VRAM (if you're too POOR to afford a 5090). It has 83% of the cores of the 5080, and the same 16 GB on 256-bit. Once 3 GB GDDR7 modules become available, Nvidia can easily refresh VRAM amounts, such as a rumored 5080 with 24 GB.

Meanwhile, I just want to see RTX 5050 (or lower).
 
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there's a bunch of delidded and liquid metal'd 7980xe's on ebay for $200 and i'm currently using a non-liquid metal 7940x with the two shitty cores disabled so i can run it at 4.5ghz on an air cooler. do you think if i disabled six cores on a 7980xe i could get it to 4.8ghz on an air cooler?
 
Pattern Juggler said:
Another game making 8gb cards untenable.

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Yeah, but at 4K Epic, even if your card has over 8GB of VRAM, it's not running over 60 fps unless it's a 4090. According to their benchmark, my 12 GB 6700 XT gets 19 fps at Epic 4K and and 35 fps at 1440p Epic. Even at 1080p Epic, it's only at 48 fps. So if you thought getting a high-memory video card a couple years ago was "future-proofing," it really wasn't.
 
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Fcret said:
Only the 4060 is still being made, presumably because we won't see the 5060 until at least the middle of 2025.
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4060s still being "made". Gotta get that last bit of slop out of the bottom GPU bin. Waste not, want not.
 
macrodegenerate said:
4060s still being "made". Gotta get that last bit of slop out of the bottom GPU bin. Waste not, want not.
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The RTX 4060 is the full AD107 die (3072 cores), so it's a top bin of a small die. It has reasonable performance and is a good choice for low profile (although it uses more than 75 Watts). The downsides are the price and you have to cope with 8 GB.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
The RTX 4060 is the full AD107 die (3072 cores), so it's a top bin of a small die. It has reasonable performance and is a good choice for low profile (although it uses more than 75 Watts). The downsides are the price and you have to cope with 8 GB.
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There also an AD106 4060, which launched in 2024. I believe this is the GPU he's referring to.
 
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A friend of mine (not the one that told me to buy a prebuilt desktop PC) sent me this after telling him I’m now in the stages of deciding which GPU to go with.IMG_0337.webp
I can only ponder in horror over the possibility (or eventuality) of future GPUs needing their own power supply separate from the one provided by the motherboard.
 
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A friend of mine (not the one that told me to buy a prebuilt desktop PC) sent me this after telling him I’m now in the stages of deciding which GPU to go with.View attachment 6675592
I can only ponder in horror over the possibility (or eventuality) of future GPUs needing their own power supply separate from the one provided by the motherboard.
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So an eGPU?
 
Pattern Juggler said:
Another game making 8gb cards untenable.
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"its your fault for buying a graphics card older than 4 years old goy"
Archeops said:
I can only ponder in horror over the possibility (or eventuality) of future GPUs needing their own power supply separate from the one provided by the motherboard.
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it makes sense at this point. instead of demanding someone also upgrade their power supply with their gpu every generation just have a separate one. a 650w power supply isn't that expensive to add vs demanding a 1000w then 1200w then 1500w power supply. The 4090 and 3090 both demanded 450w.
 
Archeops said:
A friend of mine (not the one that told me to buy a prebuilt desktop PC) sent me this after telling him I’m now in the stages of deciding which GPU to go with.View attachment 6675592
I can only ponder in horror over the possibility (or eventuality) of future GPUs needing their own power supply separate from the one provided by the motherboard.
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Ironically it'd be a much safer connector than 12VHPWR
 
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Any calculator nerds here? I was looking to get a nice graphing calculator, as my trusty Ti-84 Plus met a bad fate. But it has been probably 20 years since I've even looked into this stuff and now I see that they have "AI" built into them and all sorts of features. The full-color screens are definitely nifty. But I'm sort of lost. Any of you have opinions on calculators?
 
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IrishGuy088 said:
Any calculator nerds here? I was looking to get a nice graphing calculator, as my trusty Ti-84 Plus met a bad fate. But it has been probably 20 years since I've even looked into this stuff and now I see that they have "AI" built into them and all sorts of features. The full-color screens are definitely nifty. But I'm sort of lost. Any of you have opinions on calculators?
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at this point i'd just get a phone app. Desmos is pretty good.
 
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Betonhaus said:
at this point i'd just get a phone app.
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I didn't think I needed to include "don't waste my time with phone stuff", but here we are.

Your input is appreciated, forgive me if I seem terse. I have no interest in using my phone for anything other than phone calls and text messages.
 
IrishGuy088 said:
I didn't think I needed to include "don't waste my time with phone stuff", but here we are.

Your input is appreciated, forgive me if I seem terse. I have no interest in using my phone for anything other than phone calls and text messages.
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I mean, if you want to pay $180 for a device that should only be $40 if not for them colluding with schools to make it mandatory for every student I won't stop you.
 
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