GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[LegoTugboat]

I've been using an XPG Primer gaming mouse, mostly because it was the only one the store had that wasn't a cheap USB thing.

It's a solid little thing, been using it for a couple of years. Only problem with it is the DPI selector thing is the small top button between the scroll wheel and colour change, somewhat easy to hit by mistake, means you have to click it about 5 times to get back to the original setting.

It's kinda a budget gaming mouse, but it's served me well.

 

[1983 Opel Kadett]

Could you recommend a wired mouse that has a durable wheel, which won't die after four months of clicking on it?

I use a shit ton of middle click, except I have it bound to the button left of m1 on my G5. Makes browsing so much nicer than pressing on the wobbly scroll wheel

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT to launch on March 6, just day after RTX 5070 - Haha.

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Listing Leaked: Confirms 6th March Release Date & Priced At $849 - AIB models like this are priced higher, and it might be a placeholder. But it doesn't bode well.
XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Listed at $750, RX 9070 at $650 in leaked Amazon Listing - And a lower one comes in.

AMD’s 32 GB RDNA 4 GPU Might Be Called Radeon RX 9070 XTX, Double The VRAM For AI - Posted 10 minutes ago, this rumor won't die so easily.

Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+ appears on Amazon, and someone already bought it - "Remember when AMD said that the RX 9070 XT wouldn’t cost $899? Well, this one did cost 1,365 Canadian dollars, which is around 964 US dollars. If you think this is a high price, you’re probably not mistaken. However, someone decided to pull the trigger on a purchase, and judging from what is being said, that order should arrive on March 10."

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

I have a G502 Hero, the scroll wheel will occasionally go the other way once or twice while scrolling, I assume its because of my dirty cheeto gaymer hands though.

Yeah, it's some crud annoying the sensor. I disassembled a mouse once because the scrolling issue made me so mad and what I found was that there was a fucking eyelash flickering around the scroll wheels optical sensor.
My main issue with mice is that the left click mechanism wears out and it sometimes registers double clicks. Very, very annoying when marking a hundred files for copy and they all start to open.

 

[4090 Chad]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT to launch on March 6, just day after RTX 5070 - Haha.

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Listing Leaked: Confirms 6th March Release Date & Priced At $849 - AIB models like this are priced higher, and it might be a placeholder. But it doesn't bode well.
XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Listed at $750, RX 9070 at $650 in leaked Amazon Listing - And a lower one comes in.

AMD’s 32 GB RDNA 4 GPU Might Be Called Radeon RX 9070 XTX, Double The VRAM For AI - Posted 10 minutes ago, this rumor won't die so easily.

Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+ appears on Amazon, and someone already bought it - "Remember when AMD said that the RX 9070 XT wouldn’t cost $899? Well, this one did cost 1,365 Canadian dollars, which is around 964 US dollars. If you think this is a high price, you’re probably not mistaken. However, someone decided to pull the trigger on a purchase, and judging from what is being said, that order should arrive on March 10."

“We’re not making a high end card this generation… but we’re still going to charge high end prices lmao”

Fuck AMD. Hope they get obliterated. Spouting bullshit about being aggressive about acquiring market share and then pricing this top tier card that much where it’s destined to lose out to the 5070ti/5080.

 

[Fcret]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT to launch on March 6, just day after RTX 5070 - Haha.

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Listing Leaked: Confirms 6th March Release Date & Priced At $849 - AIB models like this are priced higher, and it might be a placeholder. But it doesn't bode well.
XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Listed at $750, RX 9070 at $650 in leaked Amazon Listing - And a lower one comes in.

AMD’s 32 GB RDNA 4 GPU Might Be Called Radeon RX 9070 XTX, Double The VRAM For AI - Posted 10 minutes ago, this rumor won't die so easily.

Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+ appears on Amazon, and someone already bought it - "Remember when AMD said that the RX 9070 XT wouldn’t cost $899? Well, this one did cost 1,365 Canadian dollars, which is around 964 US dollars. If you think this is a high price, you’re probably not mistaken. However, someone decided to pull the trigger on a purchase, and judging from what is being said, that order should arrive on March 10."

Retarded pricing. It's going to be RDNA3 all over again.

Trying to capitalize on Nvidia shortages only works if Nvidia is actually unable to fix the shortages and I highly doubt the shortages are going to last long for 5070 and 5070 Ti.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Retarded pricing. It's going to be RDNA3 all over again.

Trying to capitalize on Nvidia shortages only works if Nvidia is actually unable to fix the shortages and I highly doubt the shortages are going to last long for 5070 and 5070 Ti.

The performance against the 5070 Ti and 5070 should be good, so they can correct their mistake/"jebait" after the fact like they often do, suppressing their own sales in the meantime.

 

[Gerelatha]

AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT to launch on March 6, just day after RTX 5070 - Haha.

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT OC Listing Leaked: Confirms 6th March Release Date & Priced At $849 - AIB models like this are priced higher, and it might be a placeholder. But it doesn't bode well.
XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Listed at $750, RX 9070 at $650 in leaked Amazon Listing - And a lower one comes in.

AMD’s 32 GB RDNA 4 GPU Might Be Called Radeon RX 9070 XTX, Double The VRAM For AI - Posted 10 minutes ago, this rumor won't die so easily.

Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+ appears on Amazon, and someone already bought it - "Remember when AMD said that the RX 9070 XT wouldn’t cost $899? Well, this one did cost 1,365 Canadian dollars, which is around 964 US dollars. If you think this is a high price, you’re probably not mistaken. However, someone decided to pull the trigger on a purchase, and judging from what is being said, that order should arrive on March 10."

remember when people were convinced this thing would be $479?
lol lmao

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

remember when people were convinced this thing would be $479?
lol lmao

Now it's like, "Please let it be a $649 MSRP."

 

[cybertoaster]

it requires high end CPUs

How high-end? to the level battlemage ends up being the bottleneck? what's the point then?

Paper launch just to use up the capacity they'd already purchased from TSMC. They've already moved onto Celestial.

So what, its not getting any more production? no more support?

The issue is that instructions get dispatched to the GPU extremely inefficiently. We really haven't seen anything like this in decades.

First time I hear this, can't believe all the reviewers missed that, or at least I don't recall L1 or GN mentioning it.

 

[Gerelatha]

Now it's like, "Please let it be a $649 MSRP."

every AMD gen this happens, literally every one

 

[Fcret]

So what, its not getting any more production? no more support?

They might buy a few more production runs due to interest but they're not going to be flooding the markets with these cards. It's likely that they're, at best, breaking even on the B580 and possibly even losing money on them. Support will continue as Intel is committed to continuing Arc development because it helps them sell CPUs with integrated graphics, but the discrete GPU stuff is really just them keeping the lights on in case they get the opportunity to seriously push back into the market.

 

[cybertoaster]

They might buy a few more production runs due to interest but they're not going to be flooding the markets with these cards.

Classic intel half-assing stuff again, like with their phone chips...

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

GPU buyers get the market they deserve.

Suffah gamerz!

 

[4090 Chad]

How high-end? to the level battlemage ends up being the bottleneck? what's the point then?

This hardware unboxed video is a good demonstration of how much performance loss you can expect compared with a 4060 as you go down in CPU performance.

 

[The Ugly One]

First time I hear this, can't believe all the reviewers missed that, or at least I don't recall L1 or GN mentioning it.

Seems all the reviewers plugged the GPU into a system with a very nice CPU. However, it seems to be a problem specifically with AMD's implementation of ReBAR. I don't know enough about the technology to guess at why, but an old, low-end i5-10400T does just fine:

So it appears that the B580 is not a good buy if you have a low-end Ryzen, but is a good deal if you have an Intel CPU.

 

[WULULULULU]

>be a new gamer
>wants PC
>check parts
>500$+ GPU
>over budget
>pass

>pick console
>no games
>subscription for online play
>pass

>choose laptop
>use for few years
>becomes e-waste
>thanks Niggersoft
Seeing how the Nvidia-AMD-Intel GPU situation has become worse overtime, I think now is the worst time to ever get into gaming.

Also, I am so screwed in the case the 6750XT shits itself in a decade or so.

 

[The Ugly One]

>be a new gamer
>wants PC
>check parts
>500$+ GPU
>over budget
>pass

>pick console
>no games
>subscription for online play
>pass

>choose laptop
>use for few years
>becomes e-waste
>thanks Niggersoft
Seeing how the Nvidia-AMD-Intel GPU situation has become worse overtime, I think now is the worst time to ever get into gaming.

Also, I am so screwed in the case the 6750XT shits itself in a decade or so.

IMO it's better than ever. It is so, so, so much easier to find games than it was in the 00s, backward compatibility is a billion times better, hardware is far more stable and good for far longer, and on and on and on.

I am spending a lot of my time playing games that are 5 years old are more, even 20 years old, that I never played when they were out.

 

[ZMOT]

Trying to capitalize on Nvidia shortages only works if Nvidia is actually unable to fix the shortages and I highly doubt the shortages are going to last long for 5070 and 5070 Ti.

then they can always drop the price, which doesn't work that well the other way around.

there's an argument to be made why anyone would sell cheaper if the demand is high, and being the "good guy" didn't help amd that much in the past (and probably would even less now with everyone jerking themselves off over exclusive fake frames and fake resolutions), might as well try to make some money.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

IMO it's better than ever. It is so, so, so much easier to find games than it was in the 00s, backward compatibility is a billion times better, hardware is far more stable and good for far longer, and on and on and on.

I am spending a lot of my time playing games that are 5 years old are more, even 20 years old, that I never played when they were out.

Hell just get a Steam deck or one of the many other PC handhelds. You don't need to play AAA games on max graphics to enjoy games. The best games are the older ones being remastered or brought to PC through ports.