GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

And as expected, the comments are full of word salad copium from Apple fanboys.

The thing is, let's be honest, most Macbook Air M1 users are going to be sneering hipster cunts who pose with it in coffee shops and occasionally do some light photoshopping.

The M1 is genuinely very impressive AND THEY HUSSIED THE POWER VR TECH FOR THEIR OWN SHITBOX PLATFORM but the CPU benchmarking feels weird in that it's like measuring RPMs between a two-stroke and four-stroke engine, not the output. It scales wonderfully in benchmarks and the ported applications that they show off but I know for a fact that I could kneel on the M1 neck by forgetting something in a huge rolling matrix, so it's up to the quality of the developers and the SDK. IMO x86 have been very forgiving in that it's been increasingly handicap accessible or maybe that's just my rose tinted glasses.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Linus Tech Tips did their first Verified Gamer link in a video to be able to purchase video cards at MSRP +tariff/shipping. But it seems to have only been for 100 3070/80/90's from ASUS. It seems like they dropped the ball on this idea by hyping it up too much, which at least had a way to bot protect with a question in the video. It gets him the views but it's such a low number there's no chance to get it outside of turbo autists.

Here's the video with the timestamp (11:30) how they're doing it:

edit: looks like they removed the entire card notice and web address from the video already, it did start at 11:30 in the original video.

 

[An Avenging Bird]

Used 1080 Ti's identical to mine have hit $900 on eBay.
As previously stated, once they're at $1,000 I'm out of this hobby and Lord only knows when hardware will be readily available again.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Used 1080 Ti's identical to mine have hit $900 on eBay.
As previously stated, once they're at $1,000 I'm out of this hobby and Lord only knows when hardware will be readily available again.

Cold day in hell before I trust selling a GPU on ebay especially in this market.

 

[Dick Justice]

edit: looks like they removed the entire card notice and web address from the video already, it did start at 11:30 in the original video.

Then you should have archived the video and posted that.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

ive seen my exact gpu going for like 500 or 600 dollars and ive considered selling it for maximum profit, but then i'd be left with my old 750 ti which isnt bad at certain games but is def showing it's age

 

[Dissapointed Grandma]

Cold day in hell before I trust selling a GPU on ebay especially in this market.

Genuinely asking, where would you sell one now?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Genuinely asking, where would you sell one now?

Best bet would be local in public. Idk, I feel like these inflated prices are a great opportunity for people to fuck with sellers on ebay.

 

[An Avenging Bird]

Best bet would be local in public. Idk, I feel like these inflated prices are a great opportunity for people to fuck with sellers on ebay.

Just add a disclaimer on the list page that returns are not allowed, only sell domestically, and add tracking to the shipment.
They won't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Just add a disclaimer on the list page that returns are not allowed, only sell domestically, and add tracking to the shipment.
They won't have a leg to stand on.

None of that really means anything. Ebay is incredibly rigged towards the buyer claiming anything, and Paypal is always happy to refund even if you say none are accepted. There's even the fun where someone buys your stuff, decides 29 days later they don't want it anymore, and open a faulty claim.

Sure, maybe you can win at the end, but it opens a lot of doors for abuse. It only takes one negative experience to swear of Ebay for good, especially on inflated cost electronics.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Genuinely asking, where would you sell one now?

Smaller and more local gaming/hardware forums I would say. There you can take a look at the (forum) history of a potential buyer, if you register now you will have no post history so you need to prove that you actually have what you claim you're selling and almost dox yourself.

Jesus christ RAM prices have gone up, the exact same kit I bought is 50% more expensive right now - which ironically makes it 50% cheaper GB-for-GB than it was when I last bought RAM during the previous mining plague.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Smaller and more local gaming/hardware forums I would say. There you can take a look at the (forum) history of a potential buyer, if you register now you will have no post history so you need to prove that you actually have what you claim you're selling and almost dox yourself.

Jesus christ RAM prices have gone up, the exact same kit I bought is 50% more expensive right now - which ironically makes it 50% cheaper GB-for-GB than it was when I last bought RAM during the previous mining plague.

Now that is curious. I have 32gb of c14 flareX I wouldn't mind selling. Ill have to check into that.

Thanks for the heads-up.

 

[Justanotherguy]

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Now that is curious. I have 32gb of c14 flareX I wouldn't mind selling. Ill have to check into that.

Thanks for the heads-up.

I bought 32GB of DDR4-3200 HyperFury or whatever it's called around this time last year. Cost me €121. Looking at one of the big retailers it now costs €185! On Amazon they have a "Save €13" per 2x8GB and it still comes out to €176. But I also bought 1x4GB of DDR3 during the last plague for €80 or something(I thought it was 8 but I remember now that it was 4).

I just bought a NVME SSD that I've been curious about, the Western Digital SN550. I've been curious about it because it performs really well in benchmarks despite not having DRAM(DRAM-less is as we all know a no-no). It absolutely smokes anything on SATA[edit: under torture tests] and punches well above its weight among other NVMe M.2's at a really good price, €89 for 1TB. [edit: I wouldn't buy this unless I had aspergerly looked at it for some time, let's see if its good]

And like always, if it's tech the euros can be roughly translated to donut dolls by switching € to $ and vice versa.

 

[TheRedChair]

I bought 32GB of DDR4-3200 HyperFury or whatever it's called around this time last year. Cost me €121. Looking at one of the big retailers it now costs €185! On Amazon they have a "Save €13" per 2x8GB and it still comes out to €176. But I also bought 1x4GB of DDR3 during the last plague for €80 or something(I thought it was 8 but I remember now that it was 4).

I just bought a NVME SSD that I've been curious about, the Western Digital SN550. I've been curious about it because it performs really well in benchmarks despite not having DRAM(DRAM-less is as we all know a no-no). It absolutely smokes anything on SATA and punches well above its weight among other NVMe M.2's at a really good price, €89 for 1TB.

And like always, if it's tech the euros can be roughly translated to donut dolls by switching € to $ and vice versa.

It's always lies about memory and rarely you will get a deal. Yes as an example you can get PC3600 cheaply but the CAS ratings are in the 18+ range.

My 32gig G.Skill DDR4 PC3200 with a CAS 14 has been proven to be just as fast or faster at the PC3600 memories mentioned.

When you get a CAS 14 0r 15 in PC 3600 they are going to ask you a shit ton of money for it. I've been tracking comp parts from 2019. It has been total utter greed from the corporations selling product.

This is the first time that I can remember in 32 years of system building that my used rig will make a sizable profit.

I'm not selling mine at all. It's good for my usages and I can still tweak it a bit more. But Damn... there are too many reeeetards trying to make a fast buck dealing with bit coin and resale and ruining for the rest of us.

 

[Kane Lives]

It's always lies about memory and rarely you will get a deal. Yes as an example you can get PC3600 cheaply but the CAS ratings are in the 18+ range.

My 32gig G.Skill DDR4 PC3200 with a CAS 14 has been proven to be just as fast or faster at the PC3600 memories mentioned.

When you get a CAS 14 0r 15 in PC 3600 they are going to ask you a shit ton of money for it. I've been tracking comp parts from 2019. It has been total utter greed from the corporations selling product.

This is the first time that I can remember in 32 years of system building that my used rig will make a sizable profit.

I'm not selling mine at all. It's good for my usages and I can still tweak it a bit more. But Damn... there are too many reeeetards trying to make a fast buck dealing with bit coin and resale and ruining for the rest of us.

It makes me so MOTI that the genuine buyers are getting fucked out of this by bitcoin fags and scalpers; both of which do NOTHING USEFUL with the parts they do have. Parasites, each and every one of them.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

It's always lies about memory and rarely you will get a deal. Yes as an example you can get PC3600 cheaply but the CAS ratings are in the 18+ range.

My 32gig G.Skill DDR4 PC3200 with a CAS 14 has been proven to be just as fast or faster at the PC3600 memories mentioned.

When you get a CAS 14 0r 15 in PC 3600 they are going to ask you a shit ton of money for it. I've been tracking comp parts from 2019. It has been total utter greed from the corporations selling product.

This is the first time that I can remember in 32 years of system building that my used rig will make a sizable profit.

I'm not selling mine at all. It's good for my usages and I can still tweak it a bit more. But Damn... there are too many reeeetards trying to make a fast buck dealing with bit coin and resale and ruining for the rest of us.

One problem with memory when going up to 3600 is that on pre-Zen 3 it doesn't match up with the clocks of the internal "infinity fabric" memory controller and performance would be the same or worse. Gains could be seen by going up to 3800-4000 be, in a way, brute forcing it. 3200 matches up very well with the IFs 1600mhz clock of pre-Zen 3, the tick-tock of it all isn't asynchronous at that speed.

Things were easier when you only bought 66 or 100mhz memory tied to a 66/100 FSB, then CAS/RAS/etc were absolute indicators of memory performance. There were no special 120mhz RAM kits with different latencies running off-clock and you had to use Excel to calculate what that meant.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I've tested the new NVMe I was curious about and it looks to be a steal in the areas I was interested in(80% large reads).

SATA 500GB Crucial MX500, very pleased with those, cost ~€85-100 a piece when I bought them.


Cheap-ass €89 1TB WD Blue SN550 NVMe.


Just a very basic test, let's see how it holds up. (both disks were empty and newly formatted when tested)

edit: I should add, this looked like a great NVMe SSD if you know what you want to use it for(a bargain!), you should spec it up and read charts/reviews before buying it and understand those charts. It's DRAM-less, which is no-no, but the controller and SLC cache masks that and transferring a SATA MX500 to the SN550 was limited by the SATA transfer rate. At it's worst is outperforms anything on SATA with DRAM from what I've seen while being sold at sub-sata prices(for premium drives). If you know what you intend to do and what you need in regards to writes and reads in different chunks then this actually looks stellar for the price. No real benefit for games though, SATA is good enough for them right now, the do so much pre-processing and setting things up during the a loading sequence, so if you have the NVMe hole unused maybe wait a while until they have some really good stuff there. SATA is still perfectly fine.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I've tested the new NVMe I was curious about and it looks to be a steal in the areas I was interested in(80% large reads).

SATA 500GB Crucial MX500, very pleased with those, cost ~€85-100 a piece when I bought them.
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Cheap-ass €89 1TB WD Blue SN550 NVMe.
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Just a very basic test, let's see how it holds up. (both disks were empty and newly formatted when tested)

edit: I should add, this looked like a great NVMe SSD if you know what you want to use it for(a bargain!), you should spec it up and read charts/reviews before buying it and understand those charts. It's DRAM-less, which is no-no, but the controller and SLC cache masks that and transferring a SATA MX500 to the SN550 was limited by the SATA transfer rate. At it's worst is outperforms anything on SATA with DRAM from what I've seen while being sold at sub-sata prices(for premium drives). If you know what you intend to do and what you need in regards to writes and reads in different chunks then this actually looks stellar for the price. No real benefit for games though, SATA is good enough for them right now, the do so much pre-processing and setting things up during the a loading sequence, so if you have the NVMe hole unused maybe wait a while until they have some really good stuff there. SATA is still perfectly fine.

I got one of these after my spinning hard disk died. I was gonna just reinstall Windows on another spinning disk, then I remembered my PC came with 16GB of Intel Optane cache plugged into the NVMe slot which was - OK, I guess. Speeded up boot times on Windows 10, but 16GB is just too damn small.

I'd been holding off on SSDs for years, because I'm cheap and feel anxious if my main storage device has less than 1TB.

The WD Blue SN550 is awesome. Best PC purchase I've ever made. Windows 10 boots faster than any operating system I've ever seen since the days OSes took up a few kilobytes and were stored on ROM, completely smokes the boost I got from the Optane card. I don't play a lot of games, but DayZ used to take minutes to load and now comes up in seconds. Seems like a great purchase for normie PC users.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I got one of these after my spinning hard disk died. I was gonna just reinstall Windows on another spinning disk, then I remembered my PC came with 16GB of Intel Optane cache plugged into the NVMe slot which was - OK, I guess. Speeded up boot times on Windows 10, but 16GB is just too damn small.

I'd been holding off on SSDs for years, because I'm cheap and feel anxious if my main storage device has less than 1TB.

The WD Blue SN550 is awesome. Best PC purchase I've ever made. Windows 10 boots faster than any operating system I've ever seen since the days OSes took up a few kilobytes and were stored on ROM, completely smokes the boost I got from the Optane card. I don't play a lot of games, but DayZ used to take minutes to load and now comes up in seconds. Seems like a great purchase for normie PC users.

It's really good for its price. Other NVMe drives are obviously faster and more expensive, but it's better than anything on SATA. The top NVMe drives will obviously post better results in all areas - I don't care about that, I know my reads and writes. The read speed is overkill for games though, right now, but games will adapt to the weakest link, so to say, which is PC in a way. Don't expect to see multiplat PC games requiring 5GB+ SSD read speeds anytime soon.

edit: a cheap recommended SSD. It works very well, just research your purposes and needs before deciding on one. Don't fall into the mobile phone trap where you decide based on benchmarks that won't affect you.