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I don't know why you'd think the same game would use less VRAM on a different card. It's not like AMD has some special proprietary compression algorithm or something. Try turning texture resolution down a notch.
I know it wouldn't, it's just that I'd prefer to save the money for now if it uses the same VRAM at the same settings. Running the 5070 ti at higher settings would cause the game to run out of VRAM and stutter/drop frames.
I would've kept my rtx 3080 10gb, had a power surge not have killed it.
 
Everytime I see something about Intel having to cut jobs I think back to the 300 Million they put towards diversity initiatives in like 2015. I think they even gave money to Anita Sarkesian.

Anyway any rumours on a date for the 5080 super? I could really go with something with 24GB of vram to replace my 3070.
 
I know it wouldn't, it's just that I'd prefer to save the money for now if it uses the same VRAM at the same settings. Running the 5070 ti at higher settings would cause the game to run out of VRAM and stutter/drop frames.
I would've kept my rtx 3080 10gb, had a power surge not have killed it.
The internet says there's barely any difference between the cards in most games.
I guess the only thing is 4x frame gen, which to me seems like a silly gimmick.
 
Everytime I see something about Intel having to cut jobs I think back to the 300 Million they put towards diversity initiatives in like 2015. I think they even gave money to Anita Sarkesian.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/431804/what-intels-300-million-diversity-pledge-really-means.html
tbh the bigger problem is them spending the decade throwing money after shit like optane and then killing it. I think they wrote off something like $600 million just getting rid of optane inventory in 2020 alone and god knows how much was dumped into R&D without any return (although they also shared costs with Micron so who knows).

ESG horseshit is more just a symptom of how badly Intel was run in the 2010s. They poured money into everything except their core product line. Optane, FPGAs, dividends, NUCs... And to add insult to injury, half the things they burned money on actually ended up being successful product ideas once other companies imitated them.

I feel like Intel is basically the Google of this industry when it comes to spending money, just without the strong network effects keeping users around.
 
The internet says there's barely any difference between the cards in most games.
I guess the only thing is 4x frame gen, which to me seems like a silly gimmick.
Just as a heads up, I have a 9060 XT 16GB and not a 9070 XT; which is how I got it open box for $300 ($50 cheaper than the currently out of stock new variant).
 
tbh the bigger problem is them spending the decade throwing money after shit like optane and then killing it. I think they wrote off something like $600 million just getting rid of optane inventory in 2020 alone and god knows how much was dumped into R&D without any return (although they also shared costs with Micron so who knows).
If intel had a spine and kept Optane they'd still have something right now that would give consumers a reason for buying intel. Its a shame because it seems like the are trying to hide in a corner and hope amd fucks up their momentum. It's especially evident with lip bu;'s "no more blank checks" quote and the constant layoffs. In a time where they are quickly losing their position in the industry this should be when they want to do everything they can to beat the competition.
 
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I don't know why you'd think the same game would use less VRAM on a different card. It's not like AMD has some special proprietary compression algorithm or something. Try turning texture resolution down a notch.
typically it’s the opposite, RDNA is a less VRAM efficient architecture, there’s games where a 9070XT runs out of VRAM where a 5070ti doesn’t, this is due to Blackwell having more L2 cache which makes RDNA require more calls to vram
 
typically it’s the opposite, RDNA is a less VRAM efficient architecture, there’s games where a 9070XT runs out of VRAM where a 5070ti doesn’t, this is due to Blackwell having more L2 cache which makes RDNA require more calls to vram
I haven't looked into that inefficiency, but 5070 and 5070 Ti have 48 MiB L2, while 9070 XT, non-XT, and GRE have 64 MiB L3 (branded Infinity Cache) that plays the same role. That has been reduced from the 96 MiB of the similarly performing 7900 XTX and 128 MiB of every Navi 21 card including the 6800 non-XT. RDNA3 has higher bandwidth for Infinity Cache than RDNA2, not sure if RDNA4 increases it again.
 
I haven't touched my PC since 2020 and plan on making an upgrade from a Ryzen 7 3800x to a Ryzen 7 7700x. Is it worth sticking to AMD or Intel these days? I'm not up to date on what processor company is the best bang for buck.
 
Stick with AMD. Intel has fucked up royally these last few gens.
Is there even a reason to buy Intel anymore aside from silly brand loyalty? Other than that, the only thing I can think of are the N100/N200 mini PCs which are actually quite decent (around i5-8250U performance), but that's a rather niche thing.
 
I haven't touched my PC since 2020 and plan on making an upgrade from a Ryzen 7 3800x to a Ryzen 7 7700x. Is it worth sticking to AMD or Intel these days? I'm not up to date on what processor company is the best bang for buck.
That depends - how wedded are you to upgrades? Core Ultra 265k handily beats the 7700x and they have the same MSRP and hover around similar discounts. 265k is $280 on Amazon right now versus the $240 for the 7700X.

Downsides - the socket for the 265k is essentially a dead-end as Intel confirms their next gen CPUs will likely be on a new socket.
Upsides - better gaming performance, you get the same number of P-cores, slightly more threads (Core Ultra doesn't have hyperthreading but the 265k has 12 e-cores to make up for it), and Intel's on-chip video shit is pretty good if you do multimedia work.

It's a toss-up but if you're already in the AMD camp, I'd just go for the 7700x. Or if you have the budget for $50 more, a 9700x (which outperforms the 265k in gaming). Core Ultra 265k isn't a bad buy but Intel's super squirrely right now and AMD seems to be keeping the AM5 platform going.
 
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Is there even a reason to buy Intel anymore aside from silly brand loyalty? Other than that, the only thing I can think of are the N100/N200 mini PCs which are actually quite decent (around i5-8250U performance), but that's a rather niche thing.
The N100/N200/etc, Alder Lake-N, is Intel servicing the sub-$200 (complete system) x86 segment. AMD has chips that perform similarly, but have abandoned that segment. You usually have to go to around $300+ to find good AMD mini PCs. Intel may bring P-cores/hybrid to Atom with "Wildcat Lake" next year, boosting the performance of their cheapest chips tremendously.

There are Arrow Lake deals, seems like the good ones so far are for @Intel Core Ultra 7 265k. Despite Arrow Lake regressing from Raptor Lake in some areas, it has fine-wined slightly and it's going to have similar gaming performance to non-X3D chips (or same as all of them if you are GPU limited).

Intel is shipping the greatest volume of PC chips, so as we see businesses dumping Windows 10 computers, and Windows 11 several years from now, most of them are going to be Intel. You can get great computers for even less than what Alder Lake-N costs.

Arrow Lake laptop chips are getting more attention, and they can easily match the lackluster Krackan Point (4+4, 8 CUs):
Core Ultra 5 225H Trades Blows With Ryzen AI 7 350 But With Better Thermals; Arc 130T Comes On Par With Radeon 860M
 
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If intel had a spine and kept Optane they'd still have something right now that would give consumers a reason for buying intel.
Using DIMM slots for anything other than RAM has too high an opportunity cost to be useful outside an extremely limited range of applications. It sold very poorly, and that's why it's dead.

Is there even a reason to buy Intel anymore aside from silly brand loyalty?
Much better power management in laptops.

AMD's just generally been objectively bad at power management for a very long time. CPUMark says the Core Ultra 7 265k is overall an excellent price v performance value right now, too.
 
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Is there even a reason to buy Intel anymore aside from silly brand loyalty? Other than that, the only thing I can think of are the N100/N200 mini PCs which are actually quite decent (around i5-8250U performance), but that's a rather niche thing.
I saw some Newegg deals last month where you could get a core 7 ultra 265k, mobo, aio cpu cooler, and 32gb of ram for like $300 or so (might've been higher, but it was cheaper than amd by a decent bit); I still went with a 9800 X3D for that extra cache tho.
 
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