GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[TheRedChair]

Okay you technophiles here is something that is rather interesting.

10 year old tech being reused. As I have always stated. What is obsolete

 

[Least Concern]

Hope this is the right thread for this.

It turns out that there's some SSD firmware which was used by various vendors which has a nasty bug which effectively causes it to become inoperable after around 40,000 power-on hours, or about 4 years and 207 days. For always-on systems like servers, that time frame has come to pass. A few days ago Hacker News went down; a hot backup server was brought live, but that almost immediately went down too. The SSDs, which had been purchased at the same time, failed at the same time, and this 40,000-hour bug may have been the reason.

The issue may be fixable through firmware updates, so get on top of those if you suspect your disk might be in the bad batch.

HN discussion thread where a sysadmin correctly guesses the cause of the issue

Cisco "Field Notice" about the bug and discussion thread on that

 

[I don't swear]

Another question, if I'm looking to spend no more than about $3200, should I not opt for the new Ryzen 7 processor (especially if it only supports DDR5)? I'm asking this in the case of keeping the current parts (excluding the Mobo and RAM) I've already picked while not trying to go over 32/3300.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Another question, if I'm looking to spend no more than about $3200, should I not opt for the new Ryzen 7 processor (especially if it only supports DDR5)? I'm asking this in the case of keeping the current parts (excluding the Mobo and RAM) I've already picked while not trying to go over 32/3300.

Depends on your workload if you need a Ryzen 7. I'm still rocking an older Athlon 64 for my NAS units. Runs a few older games fine too.

 

[I don't swear]

Depends on your workload if you need a Ryzen 7. I'm still rocking an older Athlon 64 for my NAS units. Runs a few older games fine too.

I meant to say the 7000 series. Sorry for smol brain.

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Another question, if I'm looking to spend no more than about $3200, should I not opt for the new Ryzen 7 processor (especially if it only supports DDR5)? I'm asking this in the case of keeping the current parts (excluding the Mobo and RAM) I've already picked while not trying to go over 32/3300.

im pretty sure haphazzardly throwing together top of the line parts on newegg wouldn't even get up to $2000

 

[I don't swear]

im pretty sure haphazzardly throwing together top of the line parts on newegg wouldn't even get up to $2000

Uhh... RGB does something to a man.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Another question, if I'm looking to spend no more than about $3200, should I not opt for the new Ryzen 7 processor (especially if it only supports DDR5)? I'm asking this in the case of keeping the current parts (excluding the Mobo and RAM) I've already picked while not trying to go over 32/3300.

I'm not sure what you're asking here.

What "new Ryzen 7" do you mean? AM4 only supports DDR4, and AM5 (which isn't out yet) only supports DDR5.

 

[I don't swear]

I'm not sure what you're asking here.

What "new Ryzen 7" do you mean? AM4 only supports DDR4, and AM5 (which isn't out yet) only supports DDR5.

If you see my above post, I meant to refer to Zen 4 or Ryzen 7000. I'm new to all this stuff. And I'm guessing those would be tied to AM5?

 

[The Ugly One]

im pretty sure haphazzardly throwing together top of the line parts on newegg wouldn't even get up to $2000

Depends on just how top of the line you want to go:

https://www.newegg.com/p/1FR-00G6-00006?Description=epyc%207763&cm_re=epyc_7763-_-1FR-00G6-00006-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

[nigga that crab pollack]

Depends on just how top of the line you want to go:

https://www.newegg.com/p/1FR-00G6-00006?Description=epyc%207763&cm_re=epyc_7763-_-1FR-00G6-00006-_-Product&quicklink=true

there's so many bad faith implications in this post that i don't even know where to begin. that's a scalper listing, it's a server cpu with business support pricing anyways, and it's useless for consumers and video editors

i mean sure its the most powerful singular cpu on the market but its nowhere near fast

 

[Kosher Dill]

it's a server cpu with business support pricing anyways

But I need the business support for my robust, mature business.

 

[The Ugly One]

there's so many bad faith implications in this post that i don't even know where to begin. that's a scalper listing, it's a server cpu with business support pricing anyways, and it's useless for consumers and video editors

i mean sure its the most powerful singular cpu on the market but its nowhere near fast

Getting this mad about a joke is dumb. Also, if your video software is single-threaded, you should use something that's not 15 years old. This thing will crush compression, rendering, compiling, and watching cat videos in 64 browser tabs simultaneously.

For whatever reason, the previous-gen workstation version is going for $1k more:

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3995wx/p/N82E16819113675?Description=threadripper%20pro&cm_re=threadripper_pro-_-19-113-675-_-Product&quicklink=true

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Didn't the most recent GPUs support AV1? (AV1 also spawned avif which is even more contemptible than webp)

Why is AVIF bad? Other than not being widely supported and used which is a big one.

There have been many attempts to replace JPEG over the years. Like MP3 lingering on, it's entrenched.

As to the format itself, I'd be very happy with h.265/HVEC (whatever it's called). I despise webp and I have no great love for AV1. However, Google and Netflix are both pushing AV1 hard so I expect it to become a common standard.

AV1 is the direction that codecs should take: open, royalty free, and backed by the major players. Unfortunately, the Moving Pictures Experts Group (MPrEG) is hanging in there and throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks, in the form of two codecs: Versatile Video Coding aka H.266, Essential Video Coding aka MPEG-5 Part 1, and a licensing enhancement layer: Low Complexity Enhancement Video Coding aka MPEG-5 Part 2.

There's also a patent troll looming over AV1, Sisvel. Maybe they will go for the jugular after adoption picks up.

I'm interested in it because it's open source/licencing free, so adoption might be wider than 264/265. I'm hoping if AV1 lives up to the hype, it becomes the new standard for a long time like 264 was.

I was hoping to see AV2 and future versions roll out sooner rather than later. That was originally Google's plan for VP10+ before they scrapped it and joined AOMedia.

 

[TheRedChair]

Another question, if I'm looking to spend no more than about $3200, should I not opt for the new Ryzen 7 processor (especially if it only supports DDR5)? I'm asking this in the case of keeping the current parts (excluding the Mobo and RAM) I've already picked while not trying to go over 32/3300.

You really should wait until the new components come out. Personally I made my upgrades last last Oct. because I was not to keen on the current bullshit of price vs performance vs wattage that these corporations embraced. Just fucking lazy corporate ideals.

This is why my high performance rig runs at the max under 300 watts when I do my video games/editing/streaming/anything that takes a lot of computing power on both CPU and GPU.
If it is just putzing around the internet is much much less.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to test an NVME M2 for failure? SMART status only returns OK and no other pertinent info.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Why is AVIF bad? Other than not being widely supported and used which is a big one.

Same as Webp except way worse, compatibility.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to test an NVME M2 for failure? SMART status only returns OK and no other pertinent info.

What's the issue that worries you?

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

What's the issue that worries you?

It's locking up my computer whenever I try to run a game or compile anything. Have to pull the power to reset it. I'd chalk it up to GPU if not for previously having issues with drive and swapping GPU.

 

[I don't swear]

You really should wait until the new components come out. Personally I made my upgrades last last Oct. because I was not to keen on the current bullshit of price vs performance vs wattage that these corporations embraced. Just fucking lazy corporate ideals.

This is why my high performance rig runs at the max under 300 watts when I do my video games/editing/streaming/anything that takes a lot of computing power on both CPU and GPU.
If it is just putzing around the internet is much much less.

Is in the case of me going with a Ryzen 5900x, meaning stick with last gen CPU mobo RAM?

 

[broilerrx]

Is in the case of me going with a Ryzen 5900x, meaning stick with last gen CPU mobo RAM?

If you don't mind me asking, with your budget of $3200, what parts have you selected so far, if any? And are you going to be doing any productivity stuff, or just gaming?