GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

The Ugly One said:
Keeps them in the black. About half the consumer GPUs shipped every year go in game consoles. They'd probably be out of the market entirely if it weren't for Sony.

Imagine if NVIDIA had won those deals, and PS5 had an Ampere chip in it. Aside from having to watch Jensen Huang suck his own dick even more, we'd see a lot more games built ground up for raytracing.
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I'm looking at trends, not the status now. Sony and Microsoft going full retard isn't helping.
 
DavidS877 said:
So, with the current Realtek provided(out of tree) USB kernel module, it sucks. And it actually crashes. That system is ITX and has a spare M.2 port on the bottom of the board, helpfully located under a cover plate which means I have to pull it all the way apart. But I'm going to finally do that and put in an M.2 to PCIe extension and try my other AQC113 card that was dropping every hour. It seemed like power saving, but all the settings seemed correct, so I put the 8127 in that system, which as you can see is a bit slower than the AQC, but works well enough
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You can probably skip a step with a M.2 to Ethernet adapter
 
Betonhaus said:
Weird question, my server won't boot if I have a tv or monitor plugged into it. Is there something where an older Xeon with a x99 chipset gets pissy if it tries to use a modern Intel A380 in the boot process?
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isn't it a cock up with the POST? did you check for bios updates? also how old is the psu? power fluctuations can be a slow and insidious killer even if most of the time they just smite the psu outright.
 
Mister Fister said:
I'm looking at trends, not the status now. Sony and Microsoft going full retard isn't helping.
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I haven't really followed the console market in ages, so I had blithely assumed that it was a 60-40 split or something like usual. Sony sold about 20 million PS5s last year, while Microsoft sold fewer 2 million Xboxes. How on earth did they ruin that brand?
 
The Ugly One said:
I haven't really followed the console market in ages, so I had blithely assumed that it was a 60-40 split or something like usual. Sony sold about 20 million PS5s last year, while Microsoft sold fewer 2 million Xboxes. How on earth did they ruin that brand?
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Focusing on the modern audience, enshittification and price increases.
 
The Ugly One said:
How on earth did they ruin that brand?
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They failed to capture a substantial audience in the previous gen, so everybody had most of their games on playstation. So when the current gen rolled around there weren't many good reason to get a series x. They then decided to make every game multiplat (including playstation) removing any reason to buy an xbox.
 
Stratos Sphere said:
They failed to capture a substantial audience in the previous gen, so everybody had most of their games on playstation. So when the current gen rolled around there weren't many good reason to get a series x. They then decided to make every game multiplat (including playstation) removing any reason to buy an xbox.
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Updates to their major IPs such as Halo were kinda lack lustre as well. Which meant there wasn't any game which was a must play to draw anyone to a console.

The PlayStation isn't that much better. I had a PS5 for about 9 months. Some of my PS4 games didn't run any better because they require a patch from the developer for the PS5.]
I just sold the PS5 and my games and I will pick up the games on a Steam sale.
 
The Ugly One said:
I haven't really followed the console market in ages, so I had blithely assumed that it was a 60-40 split or something like usual. Sony sold about 20 million PS5s last year, while Microsoft sold fewer 2 million Xboxes. How on earth did they ruin that brand?
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do people forget the ps4 was the only console of that generation? xbox re-released the first xbox in 2014 and nintendo released a gaming tablet for the wii
 
The Ugly One said:
What I don't get about AMD GPU stans is...why. Unless you're a young guy who still thinks buying electronics is a team sport. Then I get it, okay, it's brand loyalty. We all had that time in our lives when what brand you bought was of cosmic significance.

AMD hasn't had a new idea since they invented unified shaders back in the 00s and rested on their laurels. Since the 2010s, the cycle has been that NVIDIA drives innovation while AMD copies it a generation later in a half-assed way with bad software and bottlenecked memory. So what exactly is the appeal here? After owning disappointing RDNA1 and RDNA2 products, I just don't get it.
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Because we would be turbofucked if NVIDIA achieved a monopoly - imagine how bad Covid or 2025 would have been if all of the nvidia fanboys had their way and ppl put AMD out of business bc the nvidia card bc is always incrementally better. I try to buy AMD every other time at least to help keep the market competitive, there is usually at least one that is a winner from a price/performance ratio even if it can't put up as high benchmarks as the max nvidia card.
 
I've been on and off hunting for a 5080FE but man Best buy seemingly never has them in stock anymore, it feels like hunting for the 3080 during covid all over again. I'd rather not pay more than I need to but it might be that I have no choice (insofar as I want a 5080 for 4k). I doubt they're going release a new generation of cards anytime soon this year,
 
dame dudi jench said:
Because we would be turbofucked if NVIDIA achieved a monopoly - imagine how bad Covid or 2025 would have been if all of the nvidia fanboys had their way and ppl put AMD out of business bc the nvidia card bc is always incrementally better. I try to buy AMD every other time at least to help keep the market competitive, there is usually at least one that is a winner from a price/performance ratio even if it can't put up as high benchmarks as the max nvidia card.
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92% of discrete cards are nVidia, that might as well be a monopoly.
 
Mister Fister said:
92% of discrete cards are nVidia, that might as well be a monopoly.
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It is actually lower if you look at just gaming, just 5%. I knew NVIDIA had the larger market share by far. Didn't appreciate it was that bleak.

The biggest issue they have is their GPU Compute stack. It is utter garbage compared to NVIDIA. I was using some facial recognition models and I have to run the software on the CPU as the authors just don't bother supporting anything other than CUDA. You can get TensorFlow to work on an AMD card, but you can often end up in Python/Pip dependency hell.
 
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SchizoDaemon said:
It is actually lower if you look at just gaming, just 5%. I knew NVIDIA had the larger market share by far. Didn't appreciate it was that bleak.

The biggest issue they have is their GPU Compute stack. It is utter garbage compared to NVIDIA. I was using some facial recognition models and I have to run the software on the CPU as the authors just don't bother supporting anything other than CUDA. You can get TensorFlow to work on an AMD card, but you can often end up in Python/Pip dependency hell.
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 9.42% 6.55%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 7.46% 3.10%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 6.72% 4.22%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 5.60% 2.86%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 4.60% 0.32%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 4.58% 2.47%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 4.28% 2.71%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 3.19% 1.50%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 2.93% 0.66%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 2.62% 0.14%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU 2.45% -1.54%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 1.89% -1.14%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 1.73% -0.18%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 1.66% 0.41%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 1.64% -1.11%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 1.37% -0.18%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 1.27% -0.23%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU 1.24% -0.80%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 1.22% -0.51%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 1.05% -0.01%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 0.98% -0.52%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop GPU 0.95% -0.59%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 0.81% -0.22%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 0.80% -0.52%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 0.75% -0.08%
AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 0.72% -0.39%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 0.71% -0.01%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU 0.61% -0.42%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 0.60% -0.38%
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Laptop GPU 0.58% -0.32%

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