Grand Jury speculation thread

[A-№1]

nah, he'll go to regular prison like Nick Bates did.

Nick is no Chris.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Last month he was hell bent that he was getting out soon "on good terms". However a month later, it's cleared to go in front of a grand jury. I have no doubt that there was a deal in place, and he either fucked it up, or some new corpse floated to the surface at the last minute.

Chris could've just been saying that as a cope. Like when he claimed a few months back to be going back home... only to wind up being sent to the mental hospital.

 

[Neil]

All he had to do was listen to Null and NOT steal money from his mom and he might've had a very very very slim chance at not getting his ass kicked in by the law

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

All this does seem to implicate Chris is in tougher shit than we all thought

Nigga, he committed a Sex Crime against an elderly woman in his family. That's going to get you in tougher shit than just about anyone expects in court.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries that in a trial.

The deciding point here is how badly does the dementia have to be to constitute as sufficient mental impairment that one loses the ability to consent, and if Barb meets that criteria. Chris could probably argue that Barb was assessed to be well enough to live on her own and even drive, which suggests that she might not be impaired enough to be unable to consent. Even if they prove that Barb has dementia, it's not going to be as easy to prove rape as many assume.

A dementia patient and a retard have sex. Who raped who?

Could be used as a joke somewhere probably worded differently

Also I just remembered Chris used to record himself jerking off and spinning the sex doll on his cock.Dear lord if he blurbs out that he recorded the fun time sessions with Barb

 

[A Wumpa Fruit]

Did the system fail him by not institutionalizing him long ago?

like everyone who knows Christory always said:
The system failed, his parents, his teachers, his school system... he is a human failure made from another failures

Maybe we should just observe the climax of this jail saga in silence

 

[Waifuchu]

Just watch. When Chris gets shanked to death, it's not going to have anything to do with the incest/rape charges.

It's going to be the guy on laundry duty that has to get personally acquainted with DIRTY, CRAPPED BRIEFS.

 

[troon patrol]

That's life, that's life, that's what all the people say.

Honor roll in high school, felon today.

He was never honor role, despite his claims; his work in HS was shit and barely coherent.

He's been a felon for a while now, long before raping Barb.

 

[TayandYou]

It’s been speculated that there is possibly a deal in the works where Chris pleads to a felony count in exchange for a few years prison sentence, suspended after a year of time served, probation, and RSO. If Chris violates Probation or RSO, he goes back in to serve the rest of his time. Heilberg might have drug things out or insisted that things be drug out for a year in order to keep Chris in County Jail/Western State racking up that year’s time where it’s a lot safer and easier than State Prison. If this theory is correct, we’ll see Chris’ case head quickly from the Grand Jury to a Plea hearing and a sentencing.

That’s the best possible outcome for Chris. He’d be damn lucky if that’s what he gets.

Heilberg actually seems to be a well respected lawyer with previous high profile cases, so I believe he's capable of arranging such a deal. However, the key part is if he gives enough of a fuck about Chris to make the effort to do so. I doubt Chris can pay him, and this is not the kind of case that will bring him mainstream recognition. Also, Chris is very annoying to deal with. Heilberg might simply want to get this over with as quickly as possible, and I don't blame him.

 

[DeeCeeBees]

A dementia patient and a retard have sex. Who raped who?

Could be used as a joke somewhere probably worded differently

Nah, probably be better as an AC/DC parody.

 

[DaBigBopper]

I just remembered Chris called Null Judas. I really hope we get Null calling in and we get a big "JUUUUUUUUUUDAS!!!!!" like Julie yell.

 

[Rukario]

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries that in a trial.

The deciding point here is how badly does the dementia have to be to constitute as sufficient mental impairment that one loses the ability to consent, and if Barb meets that criteria. Chris could probably argue that Barb was assessed to be well enough to live on her own and even drive, which suggests that she might not be impaired enough to be unable to consent. Even if they prove that Barb has dementia, it's not going to be as easy to prove rape as many assume.

You are going on the assumption that Chris is going to try and use legal arguments. We all know that he's going to ignore all that and try to get himself cleared by blaming Barb for it all, like he did in his post-hospital letters (where he wrote what he thinks is Barb's entire sexual history). There's also the fact that he admitted several times to having sex with Barb, which confirms he committed the crime.

The Dementia diagnosis would have been done at the hospital Barb was taken to. In addition, I assume Barb would have been allowed to live back at 14BC if Harriet and Tom were checking on her a few times per week. As for driving, we have no idea of the status of her license, but we can assume she might have tried driving even though she probably shouldn't have.

 

[3-2-1836]

Untrue. Sex offenders of any type are prohibited from schools, parks attached to schools, etc. Furthermore, there's very little difference between the tiers in terms of restrictions other than higher tiers have some added penalties for entering a school or school bus, and not being able to work as a taxi driver.

The main difference between the tiers is how often you have to report and how long you have to.

Fortunately for Chris, the distances from stuff he's prohibited from are not very large, and the kinds of places are fairly limited. Virginia is not very harsh compared to some other states (like Florida).

Chris is currently potentially facing no SOR status (incest with a non-incapacitated Barb), tier 1 (for incest if Barb was incapacitated), or tier 3 (rape). We'll know for sure after it's received by the grand jury and the public record of his charges is made available.

You're completely ignorant of the law then, in Virginia non-pedo tier 1 sex offenders aren't barred from schools, and parks aren't included in the definition of school.

Also how are you trying to explain tiers by saying incapacitated barbussy is tier 1 incest when I just explained that if they charge Chris for that it's rape by incapacitation, a tier 3 offense WITH the ban on being near places frequented by children.

Secondly in Virginia incest is tier 1 sex offender registration, full stop.

Now back to the point, even if Chris becomes a tier 3 sex offender will have NO RESIDENCE RESTRICTIONS WHAT SO EVER, Virginia law explicitly limits residence restrictions to people who offended against children.

BUT, if he is convicted of Rape by Incapacitation, he WILL be barred from loitering within 100 feet of any gamestop, toy store, walmart toy section, etc for the rest of his life as that is the sole non-pedo offense to trigger those restrictions.*

*Regular kidnapping is listed but the courts ruled it's inclusion to be unconstitutional.

If he is convicted of plain rape then he will have NO LOCATION RESTRICTIONS beyond schools.

 

[SwanSwanson]

I'm calling it, when the judge finds chris guilty, he's going to attempt to begin the dimensional merge.

I can imagine him daydreaming of some weird chaos of the cartoon world merging into the real world while he rides out of prison on some unicorn.

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

Heilberg actually seems to be a well respected lawyer with previous high profile cases, so I believe he's capable of arranging such a deal. However, the key part is if he gives enough of a fuck about Chris to make the effort to do so.

At this point it will be less about Chris and more about what he tries to do in a very public case. He comes out of this looking like he just left his client out to dry, there will be some issues with him and his legacy. His best case is try to get this shit done as best he can, and if the sped fucks it up, the sped fucks it up. He did his part, though.

 

[Ken_Penders69]

if chris tries to pull that "oh im a transwoman!" bullshit in prison the other inmates are gunna bust chris' asshole open all day everyday cuz he'll be the closest thing to a woman they'll ever get. protective custody will keep him safe at first, but you can't be in protective custody indefinably when that runs out chris is fucked, literally lol. if chris has a brain in his skull he'll change his name back to Christian and detransition immediately

 

[NuancedTardWrangler]

Chris currently has zero strikes. None of his convictions count as none of them satisfy the requirements.

Oh really? I’ll edit out that part then.

 

[heathercho]

Dear State of Virginia,

Please pay for my new chyna, breast implants, and facial reconstruction surgery to turn me from hemale to female.

Yours Truly,

Jesus Christ!

Response:

Well, Jesus, since you can turn water into wine, I'm sure you can part your own red sea.
-Santa Clause And The Easter Bunny

You jest, but if he goes to the big house, he could come out looking like a young, slutty Barb on the taxpayer's dime.
...I kinda want that to happen now.

 

[NuancedTardWrangler]

First part is invalid. My mistake

Even if Chris were to miraculously worm his way out of this, his tugboat will be gone, his house likely will be condemned or foreclosed in under a year, and he’ll still be completely unemployable. In short, he’s completely fucked, and it’s best that he’s put in a psych ward. Worst case scenario for prison: he’s put in genpop and will be killed within a few months or weeks. Even his best case scenario just has him being delusional in psych ward (which will get worse when barb kicks the bucket)

 

[RodgerDodger]

I hope Chris gets released because the prison letters are fucking snoozapaloozas

But the Jailbreak Fugitive Saga will be AWESOME