Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[Kerr Avon]

I'm not sure which is more entertaining, the fact that these three are finally on a handheld or that these reskins are causing a massive spergout

 

[The Last Stand]

Okay, I wasn't sure what to expect with the Unreal Engine but this is something.

The environment and weather look spectacular. Well, they look like existing mods. But the character models are horrible.

I mean, look at Tommy. They all look like glossed up action figures outsourced to a lesser known company. They would've been better off using Unreal Engine for everything else but the characters and just upscaling the Xbox character models.

And I know I praised the environments with UE, but there's another caveat with these design choices. The cities look too clean, too much spectacle. Compare this look with the PS2 versions.

GTA III had smog and muted colors as a stylistic choice to give an impression that Liberty City is drab, ugly and unwelcoming to those who enter Liberty City. Like a real lived in urban city.

GTA:SA suffers the worst from this remaster. No haze, too much contract, no personality. If anything, the technological limitations from these games' heydays strengthened its environments that these were lived in, dangerous cities ready to be explored.

The $60 price tag is disappointing as well. When GTA 3/VC was released for Xbox, they were $29.95 about.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Okay, I wasn't sure what to expect with the Unreal Engine but this is something.

The environment and weather look spectacular. Well, they look like existing mods. But the character models are horrible.

I mean, look at Tommy. They all look like glossed up action figures outsourced to a lesser known company. They would've been better off using Unreal Engine for everything else but the characters and just upscaling the Xbox character models.

And I know I praised the environments with UE, but there's another caveat with these design choices. The cities look too clean, too much spectacle. Compare this look with the PS2 versions.

GTA III had smog and muted colors as a stylistic choice to give an impression that Liberty City is drab, ugly and unwelcoming to those who enter Liberty City. Like a real lived in urban city.

GTA:SA suffers the worst from this remaster. No haze, too much contract, no personality. If anything, the technological limitations from these games' heydays strengthened its environments that these were lived in, dangerous cities ready to be explored.

The $60 price tag is disappointing as well. When GTA 3/VC was released for Xbox, they were $29.95 about.

1. I wonder if they explicitly went about uglifying Tommy in VC due to the "mobsters=ugly fat guido" stereotype

2. The price of $60 makes sense if you break it down as each game being $20 a pop and them selling them together. Though I wonder what feelies they will use to justify the deluxe edition costing $70.

 

[The Last Stand]

None of the promotional material mentions music, so expect many songs missing from Vice City and San Andreas.

I wonder if the Switch version will be 30FPS.

 

[Quintex96]

None of the promotional material mentions music, so expect many songs missing from Vice City and San Andreas.

I'm expecting MIDI replacements and/or shitty covers.

 

[Jack Awful]

I don't think it looks that bad, but I don't think it looks that good. I didn't expect it to look so cartoony, but I didn't expect the hyper-realistic RDR2-stle either. I expected something along the lines of GTA 5 graphics tbh, but currently I don't think it looks absolutely terrible.

I would say wait on it to see what the gameplay's like, and keep waiting until the price drops to like $30-$40 if you still want it.

That's pretty much where I'm at. I'm hoping modders actually mod back in the old graphics, as arduous a task as that would be. That earlier pic of Ken Rosenberg shows that the artists really don't understand the characters, let alone how to make characters look appealing. Ken's supposed to be this aging shady lawyer type who's trying to compensate for his age with big hair, now he just looks like the member of an 80s pop band.

It's too smooth in general.

 

[White Devil]

Christ, this looks bad. I was semi interested in it but the character models just turn me off complete.y

 

[Jack Awful]

I will buy it on sale if it actually plays well, but based on the way the models look, I think the game was developed by a shit-tier b team and it'll be a mess all around.

 

[cwcville]

still stolen from gtaforums

did they change the colors of the orange 12 guy or is the color filter so thick that looks like it came out straight from a 2008 game?

 

[Jack Awful]

The train doesn't even stay on the tracks.

 

[cwcville]

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The train doesn't even stay on the tracks.

lmao, even in the original the train behaved like that.

i bet they are using the same train paths file from 20 years ago.

worth noticing they made both the headlights and rearlights on for some reason, in plain daylight too.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Just had a horrible thought given the announcement that the release will be 45 GB downloaded: will the Switch version only have Vice City on the actual cart (since X-Box is getting SA as a solo download while PS5 is getting GTA3 as a solo download) and force you to download the other games? Or will it be the supreme bullshit of buying an empty case and getting a download code to download the entire game to your system's Switch/Switch lite hard drive? Or will the Nintendo version somehow get all three games on one cartridge, no downloading anything for those of us with fixed limited data plans to download shit?

 

[OJ Simpson]

So they just ended up going the slightly tweaked, more professional looking Rage Mod route, more or less? Because as soon as I saw the trailer I remembered those mod videos from like 5 years ago showcasing the different GTA's.

GTA:SA suffers the worst from this remaster. No haze, too much contract, no personality. If anything, the technological limitations from these games' heydays strengthened its environments that these were lived in, dangerous cities ready to be explored.

Hear, hear.

One thing that bothered me about San Andreas when I came over to PC and finally got to experience it there was how devoid of atmosphere it was. The original PS2 version had that haze and grit to it. Really lent itself to the urban jungle setting. I'm sure it was hardware limitations like you say that got us that environment but it ended up being a perfect storm, really.

On PC I prefer every game known to man except San Andreas. The graphical fidelity kind of ruins it for me, odd as that may sound to some.

 

[Psyduck]

None of the promotional material mentions music, so expect many songs missing from Vice City and San Andreas.

I wonder if the Switch version will be 30FPS.

See this is what gets me the most, you just know they have the money to renew those licences, theyre willingly choosing not to

Vice City is gonna suffer a lot from that

 

[X Pac Heat]

I wouldn't hate it if it was just on Switch, or if they weren't charging 60 to 70 bucks for it.

Right now it's just confirming my belief that most modern gamers are the types of retards who legit think Nintendo should "hire this man".

 

[Vault Boy]

My expectations were so low that I actually find a lot of this to be surprisingly decent looking.

The lighting, reflections, foliage, and textures are a nice improvement while maintaining the original aesthetic, and the character models are ok if a bit plastic looking (I'm amazed that they got Kendyl's skin tone consistent this time). After the way they dropped the ball with GTA V "Expanded & Enhanced", it's good to see some effort be put into these games.

Still erring on the side of caution until I know how buggy they are and if the soundtracks are butchered some more.

 

[Maurice Caine]

Oh god it's worse than I thought, is there any chimpout from the community yet? Claude looks like he was ripped straight out from the beta.

 

[RTX Mario]

They changed Phil Cassidy's confederate shirt

looks like I'm skipping this mess.

 

[The Last Stand]

They changed Phil Cassidy's confederate shirt
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looks like I'm skipping this mess.

A game where you are a criminal, they're concerned about political correctness pertaining to today's society. Okay, then.

 

[Polystyrene Glioblastoma]

They changed Phil Cassidy's confederate shirt
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looks like I'm skipping this mess.

They made the boobies on the sign in Las Venturas look smaller too.